I sometimes say that the only “activism” that the Men’s Rights Movement is any good at is harassing individual women. But perhaps I’m being a bit too stingy here: following on the heels of the Father’s Rights activists who dress up like superheroes and climb up buildings and bridges to show that, well, I’m not sure what they’re trying to show, Men’s Rightsers seem to be developing a knack for poorly conceived media stunts that make them look like idiots.
The latest incredibly poorly conceived Men’s Rights media stunt come from Men’s Rights Edmonton, the A Voice for Men sister brother group famous for, among other things, chasing women down the street in the middle of the night and claiming that the women they chased were the bullies.
Anyway, the loudest and most obnoxious dude in the group, Nick Reading (a.k.a. “Eric Duckman”) has decided to run for Edmonton City Council on — get this! — the Patriarchy Party ticket! Oh no he didn’t!
Oh, yes he did. I suppose that the Patriarchy Party’s supposed platform — including a pledge “to end antiquated laws regarding women’s sexual consent” and provisions to instruct teachers “to snatch things like toy trucks out of the hands of little girls and replace them with dolls or tea sets” — probably inspired a chuckle or two amongst the folks at A Voice for Men, but the trollery here is really too inane to offend.
Whetever, dudes. You can find their badly designed pamphlet, with traced-photo “artwork” presumably by the noted FeMRA artist TyphonBlue, here.
LBT – I have a smaller bust size (owwww, 30D, that sounds painful), so I have more choices. But still! I hate the fact that decent bra costs me over $40 for one. WTF?
“In retrospect, I realize that “you got what you deserved” was probably not a cool thing to say to an abuse survivor. Dub, I’m sorry I said that to you.”
Upon having let it marinate for awhile, if Ally S did suffer any sort of trauma, I do feel remorseful if I am at fault for any real distress. It does not compute to me, however, that a mere figurative remark could generate the sort of distress of a real threat of rape or violence from someone who would wish that sort of real harm upon women, or anyone else. Nowhere did I ever threaten any real abuse, either.
As for the rest of what I said, I make no apologies. If Futrelle considers that abuse, I’d hate to think of his ever encountering the sort of very real violence that women I have known personally have experienced. What a farce on his part.
Wow, I missed quite a meltdown. Hope everyone’s doing okay now.
And Rogan, did I see you have a spare room and everything? Yonkers!
RE: Dub
You have no idea how to actually apologize, do you? Here’s how you do it:
1. State that you have done wrong.
2. Apologize, without quantifiers.
3. Change your behavior.
Instead, you state that you POSSIBLY did wrong (but don’t really believe so), apologize for that hypothetical (which you don’t actually believe), and declare your intention to continue being just as big an asshole as possible. That’s not an apology. That’s just you pretending to apologize while still being a big whopping chucklefuck.
David, didn’t you ban this douchebag?
RE: cloudiah
Yes! We’re staying in a friend’s spare bedroom! I still have to stagger through the holidays, but whatever, we have a room and a nice warm safe place to stay, and privacy!
The fuck? I thought asshole got banned?
Well then, I guess that means I can launch into him after all!
“No-one is experiencing PTSD.”
How fucking dare you? You fucking asshole, you’ve just discounted the trauma of anywhere from 10% to 30% of veterans, depending which war(s) they were in, and ~1/3 of rape victims.
People who go through traumatic experience(s) and are affected by them aren’t actually affected by them according to you, because why? Because that’d fuck with your myopic worldview? Because that would mean that rape victims aren’t just “playing a professional victim” or whatever the FUCK you said? Because that’d mean you may actually hurt people and not be the funny guy you think you are?
Is your life really so devoid of meaning that you have to wave away any pain you may cause lest you be forced to acknowledge you aren’t remotely funny?
Or do you simply enjoy hurting people?
Oh and before you so much as think about calling me rude, you just went after people I care about, and anyone here will tell you that I’m being nice in light of that.
I’m going to steal a curse from someone here (Cassandra?) — may you wake up one day and realize what a horrible person you are.
It was an invasive, disturbing sexual comment. And it reminded me of the sexual harassment I faced from my sister’s ex when I was 12. You may be puzzled as to how that could trigger someone’s anxiety or trauma, but just because you can’t imagine it doesn’t mean it’s impossible. What I dealt with when I was 12 has had such an impact on my psyche that I’m actually afraid of having sex and extremely sensitive to boundary violations. Of course your words were fucking distressing. I made that pretty damn clear in every single one of my responses. Either you have an abysmal level of self-awareness or you’re being a disingenuous asshole.
And you know, I’m having a hard time believing that you’re being sincere about your so-called apology because of the garbage that you posted after I said your words were frightening and triggering to me:
And after I said my hands were shaking due to anxiety as a result of being triggered, you said this:
Truly the words of someone who is sincerely compassionate. Yep. You were just mistaken.
Bullshit.
Oh, so you know women who have been abused? I see. I wonder how they would feel if they read what you said to me earlier.
Again: fuck off.
In today’s news, dude with no empathy decides that other people’s pain must not be real, pats self on back.
In other news, calling someone’s writing pretentious is just as bad as mocking someone for having an anxiety attack.
I fucking missed that shit about “real violence” — so what’s “real violence”?
Clearly sexual harassment isn’t, or you’d not have pulled the shit you did. Rape? Or does it have to be “rape rape”? And just what is “rape rape”? Is it only “real violence” if a weapon is used? Or does it have to be more than threats, does she have to end up in the ER?
And how about victims of other sorts of violence? Where’s being threatened with a weapon fall in comparison to being beaten? How much torture does it take to be “real violence”? Potentially fatal stress positions? Beatings (also potentially fatal, or rather, proven fatal)? Waterboarding? Electroshock? Bamboo under the nails? Gotta do permanent harm?
How about the people who witness whatever you’re calling “real violence”? Are they allowed to be traumatized? Or the gun has to be pointed at them, not their loved one?
Soldiers? Is active duty enough? Have to be in a combat zone? Have to be shot at? Have someone shot in front of them? Actually be shot? Loose a limb? See someone killed? Oh, I know, is killing someone “real violence” that can traumatize, or do you need to be on the other side of it?
God damnit, I can’t find it now, but there’s a quote along the lines that the worst we ask of soldiers isn’t to die, but to kill.
Wow, dub, you win November’s “I am a terrible person without empathy” award. Congratulations?
If he’s supposed to be banned, has anyone emailed David to point out that he’s still pooping in the comments?
Give me a few moments. I can send an email.
Damn. Sorry about that. I think I hit “approve” instead of “trash” on those comments from Dub, or else there was some sort of wordpress glitch. Those shouldn’t have gone through.
1) He’s a worm for trying to comment after a ban regardless of how the comments made it through 2) screw him and his “real distress” bullshit like there’s some magical point at which distress becomes legitimate and worth his fucking concern.
I know Toy Soldier doesn’t bother socking, being so full of his precious self, but that shit reminded me of him. Don’t know why, since I’m not really familiar with his spewings anyway.
It’s always interesting to watch conversations where one person is saying “I’m distressed” and the other is replying with “no you’re not”. Does the latter person in that dynamic not realize how obvious they’re making their abusive personality, or do they know and just not care?
This one was certainly doing it on purpose, with the typical abuser’s attempt at indignation and blaming the person being abused. His personality seems to have all the charm and appeal of Roosh’s hair.
And then he came back all “I made you cry, lol”. And now for his next trick he will kick a few puppies. He sure is awesome.
Ouch! That’s harsh, even for you, Kittehs 😉
Imma leave some cute here:
http://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/funny-cute-hamster-sweeping-love-table-pics.jpg
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/cute-funny-animal-pictures-25.jpg
And cuties in disguise!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k8qiYnBRLJg/UIB74UHODAI/AAAAAAAAA5Q/bRwXXl52XyQ/s1600/adorable-baby-chihuahua-cute-dog-Favim.com-214623.jpg
http://webtaj.com/cute-animal-pictures-more-and-funny-pics-part-30940.html
I know. I was quite proud of it. 🙂
I read the pamphlet and it is so unbelievably obvious that it’s a satire on what feminists believe the patriarchy. Maybe you should’ve linked the actual pamphlet so your audience could see for themselves.
http://www.mensrightsedmonton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/PatriarchyParty3.pdf
And you fail at reading comprehension, Alex. We know its meant to be satire. It’s just not very good or vey funny satire.
And David provides a link to the original pamphlet at the end of the article.