I sometimes say that the only “activism” that the Men’s Rights Movement is any good at is harassing individual women. But perhaps I’m being a bit too stingy here: following on the heels of the Father’s Rights activists who dress up like superheroes and climb up buildings and bridges to show that, well, I’m not sure what they’re trying to show, Men’s Rightsers seem to be developing a knack for poorly conceived media stunts that make them look like idiots.
The latest incredibly poorly conceived Men’s Rights media stunt come from Men’s Rights Edmonton, the A Voice for Men sister brother group famous for, among other things, chasing women down the street in the middle of the night and claiming that the women they chased were the bullies.
Anyway, the loudest and most obnoxious dude in the group, Nick Reading (a.k.a. “Eric Duckman”) has decided to run for Edmonton City Council on — get this! — the Patriarchy Party ticket! Oh no he didn’t!
Oh, yes he did. I suppose that the Patriarchy Party’s supposed platform — including a pledge “to end antiquated laws regarding women’s sexual consent” and provisions to instruct teachers “to snatch things like toy trucks out of the hands of little girls and replace them with dolls or tea sets” — probably inspired a chuckle or two amongst the folks at A Voice for Men, but the trollery here is really too inane to offend.
Whetever, dudes. You can find their badly designed pamphlet, with traced-photo “artwork” presumably by the noted FeMRA artist TyphonBlue, here.
I am saying most men could not vote, along with women. Save the moron label for yourself, until you have a point to make without resorting to insults.
Um, the 15th amendment granted franchise to all men in 1870. Not that there weren’t practices that made it difficult for certain groups of men to vote, but I’m not really seeing what Dub is bleating about.
RE: Dub
Feminism is for equality, but while fighting for the right to vote for women, whatever did the suffragettes do for men who couldn’t vote? Nothing, of course, they were a women’s movement, not an equality movement.
*squints at you*
Do you also complain that sites about football don’t talk about basketball? They were women, fighting for women’s voting rights. Of COURSE they didn’t focus on men’s voting rights, because they were specifically made for WOMEN’S voting rights.
A movement for white women, at that.
White feminists were (and still are) incredibly racist. But you act like there were no black women fighting for voting rights when that is completely untrue. Ida B. Wells. Remember her? Fought for the right to vote, PLUS anti-lynching shit, PLUS calling out the racism of white feminists? Sigourney Truth? Harriet Tubman? And those are just the ones off the top of my head.
Don’t play coy.
take your seat and enjoy
Thanks, I will.
RE: chibigodzilla
but I’m not really seeing what Dub is bleating about.
I… I THINK he’s trying to pull a gotcha, with the idea that white feminists were really fucking racist and classist? Which really shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who’s learned much feminist history? Maybe?
I welcome him to say so for himself, since I really am so not sure.
Huh, that’s the first time a misogynist asshole has ever apologized to me for a problem HE has. I guess there might be hope for you yet. But no, you still don’t get to fuck with me. I don’t do fecal matter. Begone, before somebody drops a house on your pointy little head.
This is a telling remark. Pseudo-intellectual blowhards tend to cast themselves as grand wits while failing to be even remotely witty. It certainly explains why you confuse the failed humor of a cultural dunderhead with satire.
Wrong, wrong, and right.
You’re creepy because you keep making unsolicited sexual comments. I don’t think anybody has even called you a homophobe, so I’m not sure why you keep carping on that — though your insistent use of the word “homosexuals” makes me suspicious. But, yes, “strongly disagreeing” with feminism makes you a misogynist.
Du(m)b thinks he’s a wit, but he’s only half right. And like Cloony the Clown and our failed fake satirist above, he’s funny just by accident.
The Dunning-Kruger effect at its finest, for sure.
Also, dafuq is up with the use of “homosexual” all the time? The only people I know who do that are sanctimonious, church-ridden homophobes who wrinkle their noses when they say it, and who reek of mothballs themselves.
Can I just say, on behalf of all of the decent atheists, that Du(m)b is
1. an asshole, and
2. a shitty atheist who doesn’t even know what words mean?
Also, I apologize that we have such shitheads in our ranks.
In reference to:
Ah yes, that old figurative expression: “Off I will not fuck. With you, I will.” How could Auggz read anything into that beyond it’s well-known colloquial meaning?
RE: Bina
Because ‘queer’ just ain’t sexy and elicit enough!
LBT, that’s probably true. Also, “gay” sounds nice and happy and likable and fun, and we can’t have non-straight people be THAT, can we?
This seems like a perfect opportunity for the word “inane.”
“These two things are not mutually exclusive. That’s like saying geometry isn’t about math because it doesn’t focus on statistics, an important part of math.”
*also kinda likes geometry, in a broad sense* it’s useful for a grasp of proportion.
I’m gonna catch up on the bleating of the du(m)b now.
I’ve also seen “homosexual” used in medical literature, but that’s the sort of thing where “a 54 year old female (blah blah blah)” (wasn’t happy I implied she’s 55, sorry mom), or “a [age] homosexual male (blah blah stuff making his sexuality relevant)”
In short, it dehumanizes everyone.
Is this really any weirder than any other religious beliefs? How is “we are aliens trapped in Earthly bodies” fundamentally different from “we are Heavenly souls trapped in Earthly bodies”?
Oh, Dubsy,
Nope, it’s still missing the big one. I bet if you think really hard, you can figure out what that is.
This isn’t true of all religions, or even most of them. Have you considered reading academic, popular, or even insider accounts of religions instead of just contrarian atheist ones? I hate to break it to you, but those guys don’t always know what they’re talking about.
I have a feeling that in groups where ostracism is practiced, the consequences are somewhat more dire than the mockery you experienced. Also, you’re not being mocked for being non-feminist; you’re being mocked because you’re not as clever as you think you are.
I’m sure no one had figured this out before you made it plain.
“Look at me! I’m an atheist! I’m a freethinker and I’m smarter than everyone else! Religion is dumb! Look at me!” Dude, there are people here who’ve been atheists since before you were born, and quite a few mention the religious people who are much, much smarter than you. No one is impressed.
Some women hate men, therefore I get to hate all women. Manlogic.
Dogmatism
Catmatism
YOU ARE IN THEIR POWER
Women, like God, do not exist and therefore cannot be offended by things. Manlogic!
An argument in response to what? We just come here to shoot the shit.
Good thing that’s not her argument, then.
If you want people to believe you’re smarter than feminists, or even the average fifth grader, you might want to try actually understanding the arguments that have been advanced. I’ll help you out: literally no one has said you are X, Y, or Z simply because you’re not a feminist. I dare you to find where someone did say that.
If the suffragists were for equality, they’d have been fighting for men to have the right to vote, too! Even though they already had it! Manlogic!
@Kittehs
Given the willful misinterpretations and the all-over-the-map accusations, I wouldn’t be surprised.
@Auggz
Remember, Auggz: if women don’t put men’s needs first, they aren’t really fighting for equality.
@LBT
Sojourner
“Some women hate men, therefore I get to hate all women. Manlogic.”
If I hated all women, you might be correct, but you have yet again falsely attributed your little feminist logics to someone whom you have incorrectly accused.
“If you want people to believe you’re smarter than feminists, or even the average fifth grader, you might want to try actually understanding the arguments that have been advanced. I’ll help you out: literally no one has said you are X, Y, or Z simply because you’re not a feminist. I dare you to find where someone did say that.”
Certainly they have. I have been called a creep, a misogynist, a homophobe, and a moron. I’m not going to go finding where they were said. Not my job. You can dig through the shit for yourself. Not that I mind these labels. I will never be able to defend myself against them. So, I apologize for nothing of which anyone here thinks of me. Let it be.
“This is a telling remark. Pseudo-intellectual blowhards tend to cast themselves as grand wits while failing to be even remotely witty. It certainly explains why you confuse the failed humor of a cultural dunderhead with satire.”
No, it really is satire. You just don’t like it, so you think it is failed So much for your intellectual superiority, blowhard. Your opinion isn’t fact.
“If the suffragists were for equality, they’d have been fighting for men to have the right to vote, too! Even though they already had it! Manlogic!”
No, that is an opinion, not a fact. The SUFFRAGETTES (not “suffragists”, they were not for the voting rights of anyone but white women) were a women’s advocacy group, which is fine, but they were not feminists.
“Women, like God, do not exist and therefore cannot be offended by things. Manlogic!”
Of course I made that assertion. Find where I did, anywhere, and then fairly accuse me once you have found anywhere I’ve even implied that logic. Your handle, including “goddess”, though, is telling. You think you are divine, and that’s the feminist logic that confuses a disbelief in your feminist religion with a disbelief in women. I know you’re only baiting me, but your “goddess” logic is still flawed, and you have misattributed personal character traits that I do not possess, or at least have nowhere stated or implied.
if you are attributing these illogical arguments to any of my positions, then yes, I am smarter than most feminists, and that especially includes you. You are putting words in my mouth just to be inflammatory, and there is nothing superior in your claiming that I am somehow “not as clever as I think I am”, which is another falsely attributed personal insult, with baseless grounding.
“Remember, Auggz: if women don’t put men’s needs first, they aren’t really fighting for equality.”
I am a mercenary political opportunist. I benefit from what suits me. What has feminism ever done for me? Nothing? Funny, neither has Christianity. If someone is not concerned with my needs, I am not concerned with theirs. Oh, but that is “hate”, the favorite feminist word.
Fuck off, Dub.
Lol, you fuck off.
Dude, you already said “Misogyny is great,” you’re obviously just trolling for attention. Nobody wants to talk to you.