Here — above and below — are a couple of amazing works of Men’s Rightsy propaganda I missed in my survey of deviantART yesterday, both from a fellow calling himself alexlartwork22. And, yes, they both seem to be meant completely seriously.
Thanks, Tulgey Logger and Cloudiah for finding these! Is anyone else reminded of Chick Tracts here? The crude drawing, the melodrama, the excessive word balloons?
My post yesterday inspired (or at least provided the excuse for) rather a lot of comments, many of them rebutting a Men’s Rightsy fellow calling himself Good. Below, a graphic from Katz memorializing one of Good’s more, er, memorable pronouncements.
Even better write up with all of the links that will rid of world of ideologies that make your boner cry forever.
http://www.notesfrommyass.com
@CassandraSays, I like her stuff and I sure don’t see that. I see dreamy and creepy, which is fine, just be honest about it.
“You’re to lazy to check, yet I’m supposed to wade through nonsense posts about cats and unicorns to respond to everything you want me to respond to?”
Jesus Lou-eezus! The difference is being forthcoming. Rather than be honest and say you’d rather not wade through posts and debate because you don’t want to or can’t keep up, you say you went to bed or had a life. Then you proceed to take more dumps on the carpet and bring up new things. To which we engage and ask questions only to have you answer with questions and/or drop huff post links and/or run away. Then you return and pretend none of it happened and take more dumps and on and on you go. And now I will ignore you because responding only enables your pathological attention seeking.
@ baileyrenee
Yeah, that’s part of what’s setting my eyes rolling, the puffed-up pretentious wankery of the marketing. So you want to paint vulnerable looking child-women naked, sometimes with horns on their heads, against pretty Art Noveau backdrops, and have people praise you for being edgy. Cool. But why pretend that’s not what you’re doing?
(I often have this issue with the way artforms of all kinds are marketed, and reading eleventy billion PR emails over the years has only made the eye-rolling worse.)
“Good has a life, you hermit.”
*dies laughing* I spent last weekend at pecunium’s and one thing he is not is a hermit (unless you mean crab, he may pinch if provoked, that I’ll grant)
I feel like a hermit crab would add far more interest to the comments of this blog than Good does. At least the way they scuttle is kind of cool to watch.
Good has a life, you hermit.
A life which involves making stupid, self-contradictory comments on Manboobz, then retreating, and coming back to change the topic, while flinging about more of the, “insults” he doesn’t deign to admit to making.
You were rebutted extensively, at length, in depth, in all sorts of ways that I’m sure you have trouble grasping.
Howard, I suspect he does grasp them, which is why he pretends each day is a tabula rasa.
Of course he also thinks Camille Paglia, and Hoff-Summers ought to be seen as some sort of relevant thinkers to us, so his ability to read the crowd is a bit weak.
Not that this is a shock to anyone, but Good’s link is just the exact same stuff as always. Sections are “Feminism: theory and practice,” “The feminist view of men (feminist quotations),” “Feminist research (stats versus facts),” “Domestic violence,” “Feminism and the family,” “Feminists in Government,” and “What is the future for the feminist movement?.” It’s exactly what you’d expect, the same tired, boring garbage as always.
This is the first sentence of the conclusion:
“Despite what we have been told for 40 years, men are not all bad and women are not all good.”
Like I said. Better shut down manboobz.
Good:
I wasn’t too lazy (it’s not as if you rise to the sine qua non of tedium that was Brandon). I did check, this is your pattern. Even when someone saves you the legwork of using Ctl F to run a “match case” search for, “Good” (by giving you a direct link to some substantive replies) you won’t belly up to the bar.
You’re a chickenshit.
“You’re to lazy to check, yet I’m supposed to wade through nonsense posts about cats and unicorns to respond to everything you want me to respond to?”
Oh fuck off. This is not, and will never be, the All About Good Show. We’re going to talk about things that are not you and you can either deal with that and respond to the things that are about you, or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.
Argenti: Now, to be fair, it wasn’t me who said he was getting stroppy, that was (IIRC, Hellkell).
But the “hermit” charge always amuses me. The person making it can’t know (I have the same sentiment to the, “basement dweller”). It’s a weak-sauce attempt at self-valorisation.
Cassandra — this is a valid point. Also, hermit crabs aren’t hermits. They’re social critters and prefer being kept in groups (I’ve owned them at various points, really cool critters)
Pecunium — oh I realize it’ smooth whether true or not and meant as a baseless insult, but it amused me considering I know first hand how little you are home 🙂 (and how good your cooking is!)
It’s moot*
iOS 7 is still hating contractions.
Pointing out the flaws in art isn’t bashing, it’s criticism. Just because Feminist A (or indeed Critic B) likes something doesn’t mean that the rest of us have to.
Confession, I don’t like Picasso.
Point is that Cassandra’s right.
@auggziliary
I wouldn’t call her stuff “revolutionary,” I honestly think that’s fucking ridiculous. I can’t argue with it being the same stuff over and over either, that’s the most annoying thing for me. My like for her really goes as deep as “she’s a really good artist” and that’s it (as in drawing/painting/whatever). There’s a few of her works I would even hang up in place. But it’s really nothing to shit yourself over, and that really bothers me if she’s that strongly prasied. As beautiful as I think her stuff can be that’s really pushing it.
I have no idea what the “r-word” is btw. I am so curious.
And I didn’t think you were bashing, I really don’t mind if I’m the only one who likes her stuff, haha. Art is a cruel world, go nuts.
Too lazy to check through every single instance of your commenting, and too lazy to look at yesterday’s comments are not equivalent forms of laziness. One is, “I’m not writing my Masters’ thesis on this, it’s not worth the weekend,” the other is “omg, that’s, like, five pages!” Not all lazinesses are created equally.
Meh. Here’s where I stopped being willing to trawl through that “pretty good write up”:
First wave – which the page so reasonably refers to as “real” – feminism was geared toward attaining the franchise – the ability to vote and run for government. That’s an aim of an egalitarian movement, but, on it’s own, it is insufficient to earn the label of egalitarianism. Second wave feminism (or first wave fake, if we wish to adopt the idea that only the first wave was real) was geared toward attaining de jure equality, which means the abolition of laws that determine a person’s rights on the basis of gender alone. This, too, is an aim of an egalitarian movement, but, on it’s own, is still insufficient to qualify for true egalitarianism. Third wave (or second wave fake) feminism aims to achieve de facto equality, as well as fighting those who wish to revert de jure equality. That means bringing an end to discrimination based on social attitudes rather than legal mandates. Again, an aim of an egalitarin movement, but not enough in and of itself. Real feminism is not first wave, or second, or third. Real feminism is simply feminism – the waves refer to what is being focussed on at the time. To claim that the first wave is the “real” feminism is as nonsensical as asserting that the first wave to move up the beach as the tide turns is the “real” ocean.
I’m getting really tired of critiques of feminism that make no effort to actually understand what feminism is.
Feminism is about gender equality, with a focus on the gender which is least advantaged.
Equal voting rights is a step in the right direction. Equal treatment under the law is another step. Equal treatment by society is yet another. No one of these is “real” feminism – they are all aspects of real feminism.
Well, speaking only for myself, I don’t mind being a hermit – it means less time exposed to that dreaded sun!
Honestly, my first impression was pretty, but boring, largely because I’ve seen a lot of similar stuff before, and if you’ve been exposed to a lot of Japanese pop culture the whole sexualized tweener as faux-powerful symbol of feminine perfection thing provokes eyerolls hard enough to set off a migraine.
I like what’s-his-name… the guy with the hats. Rene… Blerflederf….
Magritte
Art nouveau x “manga” as something revolutionary? O.o That’s basically how the shoujo manga art style was born (ok. it was art nouveau as interpreted by the local woman’s magazines if I remember correctly but still). Art nouveau itself owned a lot to Europe discovering Japanese art.
@Baileyrenee
the r-word is (well, in the moderation filter so I can’t just type it) but a very rude word for a person with a learning disability.
here’s the ableist word profile on it.