Pity the poor Men’s Rights activists. The real civil rights movements that MRAs like to compare their, er, “struggle” to may have faced many obstacles that MRAs haven’t — from legal prohibitions on voting to fire bombings and assassinations — but at least they haven’t had a hard time explaining just what it was, and is, that they’re seeking redress for.
When Martin Luther King so famously dreamt of a world in which “my four little children will … not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character” he was not only speaking eloquently; he was expressing an idea that was, well, pretty easy to understand.
And that’s where the trouble comes for the MRAs. It’s a bit harder to explain your alleged anti-oppression movement to the general public when the people on whose behalf you’re fighting aren’t actually, you know, oppressed. So is it any wonder that MRAs have such a hard time explaining themselves to the public?
I mean, all the Suffragettes had to put on their posters was “Votes for Women.” MRAs are stuck. Men already have votes. They already have civil rights. Heck, men already run most companies and hold most political offices and control most of the world’s wealth.
And so MRA propaganda tends to be muddled, a weird mixture of misogyny and special pleading and stuff that just doesn’t make any sort of sense no matter how you slice it. In earlier posts we’ve looked at baffling and/or offensive posters from A Voice for Men and associated sites, as well as at some of the awful graphics that sometimes make their appearance on Reddit.
Today, a quick stroll through the MRA underground on deviantART.
The graphic at the top of the post is from someone calling himself awesomeninja; for his propaganda work, he specializes in somewhat baffling text-based graphics in basic colors. Apparently he has convinced himself that “feminazis use child-bearing all the time to defend their sexist views,” and feels it is necessary to respond to this in giant letters in several colors with a black background.
He is also responsible for this similarly befuddling contribution to political art:
Wait, is this a trick question?
Dude, have you actually met any Men’s Rights Activists?
Oh, wait, you are one. Oops.
But wait, there’s more:
Of course, awesomeninja isn’t the only one spreading the MRA message of love on deviantART. Here are a few other graphics I found by searching for “men’s rights” and related tags on the site.
This lovely “stamp” from loqutor, who has convinced himself he is “debunking an ages-old feminist myth” with it.
A meme from Userbruiser, who apparently thinks that if a woman has alcohol in her system, it’s ok to rape her:
This bizarre castration fantasy from the same lovely fellow:
This rant posted by themodsquad, who also enjoys jokes about pedophilia and bestiality.
There’s some question about whether or not themodsquad came up with that all by himself, but this uglier and worse-written sequel seems pretty authentic to me:
Is he a “real” MRA or just a troll? I don’t know, but he does seem to be an authentic misogynistic asshole attention-seeker, and I’ve seen virtually every “argument” in the first graphic rehashed many times on assorted MRA sites; it’s pretty much standard-issue “we hunted the mammoth to feed you.”
Let’s close with several graphics from an aspiring Man Going His Own Way. millenia89 is proud of his own reproductive organs:
But he doesn’t seem to think too highly of most of his fellow male-identified penis-havers. Indeed, he believes most of his fellow men are like lemmings marching off a cliff — except for a tiny percentage of MGTOW like the two tiny fellows at the bottom right of the graphic below.
I know it seems confusing, but trust me, the MGTOW in this picture aren’t the ones going over the cliff, really. They’re the ones facing the other direction, underneath that little MGTOW sign. No, not under the big MGTOW sign, under the little one. Just trust me on this one.
millenia89 is especially unimpressed with men who step in to “save a hoe,” like this fellow, whom he sees as a handy “personification” of the sort of “manipulated tool” who, I guess, apparently likes women enough to help them out. I’m not quite sure I get it. Apparently this picture is inherently hilarious because it’s a picture of a black guy with an odd smile in a weirdly inaccurate superman costume. Heck, even the font is wacky.
Millenia89 may not think much of most of his fellow men, but at least he doesn’t want to render them obsolete. Women, well, that’s another issue entirely, as this utopian paean to the glories of artificial wombs suggests:
So awesomeninja thinks that “pregnancy is no excuse for misandry.” Millenia89 evidently hopes that in the future there will be no excuse for pregnancy itself.
This is how the Men’s Rights movement tries to explain itself to the world.
And MRAs wonder why their little movement has the reputation it does.
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I was inspired to check out deviantART’s MRA community by some of the commenters here. Check out the comments in the “Feminist anti-obedience school” thread starting here to see some homegrown parodies of awesomeninja’s graphic works.
Look into the population statistics of South Africa during apartheid and get back to me.
@fade
ew 🙁 that’s not what I was thinking 🙁 cant say for good though.
Begging the question for 500 Alex.
Fade
Men have never desired to kill women and men have always killed more men than women.
@good
please give a citation.
Dude, I’m going off your own words
What the heck am I supposed to think that means?
Good, I was talking about you.
Your arguments have no substance!
Your citations don’t say what you think they say!
Your points are addressed fully and you ignore it!
YOU! ARE! THE! DUNNING! KRUGGER! POSTER! BOY!
@Marie
I think he’s going off the war thing and acting like there are a) no civilian casualties and b) women not having the opportunity to fight in wars was the fault of feminism, not the patriarchy that viewed them as weaker.
@Fade
Weaker and as soldier creation vending machines.
makes no sense, and implies you don’t know anything about science or humans or anything.
You didn’t read correctly. Let me rephrase Men and women are equal in numbers. With this being the case, how did one gender come to so-called “dominate” the other gender when the “dominant” gender has never had an advantage in numbers.?
“If men dominate the world, why is that the case when men and women are equal in numbers?”
Because thousands of years of systematic oppression and discrimination that becomes embedded in the laws, religion, culture and society. That is the short answer. For details and analysis of a particular time period/culture, you can easily find books on that subject in your local library.
@good
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look at what sparky said if you want an actual (very brief) explanation, though I advise you to pick up a book. Or several. I’m too busy being befuddled.
Also, respond to what Chie said, kthxbye.
“Good, I was talking about you.
Your arguments have no substance!
Your citations don’t say what you think they say!
Your points are addressed fully and you ignore it!”
Even if you actually believe this, this warrants immature personal insults?
I don’t insult you despite the fact that:
Your arguments have no substance!
Your citations don’t say what you think they say!
Your points are addressed fully and you ignore it!”
Oh yay, Lesser Good is here.
And has been addressed by Howard.
I made a MRA poster.
Oh, snarky boy thinks he’s leading us down the path of “SCIENTIFIC PROOF” that men are naturally superior to women.
@ cloudiah
that is the best poster in the world and I am wonderstruck before it.
Another fantastic work of art by the artist Tulgey discovered.
Because thousands of years of systematic oppression and discrimination that becomes embedded in the laws, religion, culture and society.
How did men manage to accomplish this? Why couldn’t women stop it or do it to men instead? Please answer.
Good’s kinda boring, it’s like he just learned how to imitate the grown ups but doesn’t know what ‘context’ is.
@cloudiah
baffling poster, but I suppose that’s inevitable with mra-posters XD
@good
yeah, cuz women haven’t been trying to stop it…
::headdesk::
god good, you are a fool. A foolish fool.
O my god he’s like a little kid asking why repetitively.
I think you called it, Chie Satonaka.
Good’s kind of boring? There’s a reason he’s called Lesser Good.
GREATER GOOD, WE NEED YOU.
No, actually.
What warrants immature personal insults is when you insinuate that anybody who was oppressed deserves it on some level. FUCK-FACE.
yeah, cuz women haven’t been trying to stop it…
Are you being sarcastic and actually saying that women have been trying to stop it? If so, why have women failed?
If you were being literal, why have women not attempted to stop it?
Y’all know what he’s doing, right?
Good, this is your answer. The world is not and has never been a meritocracy. The rich are not rich because they are “naturally superior” to the poor. Whites are not “naturally superior” to non-whites. And men are not “naturally superior” to women.
You debate in bad faith and that is why you get the responses that you get.