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Feminism is like anti-obedience school for dogs, explains Men’s Rights Redditor

Apparently feminism has turned the lovely and obedient ladies of yore into a bunch of wild wolves and dingoes — by preventing men from “putting the foot down” when ladies misbehave. At least that’s what the always awful Men’s Rights Redditor who calls himself Alisdair_ and the 41 terrible people who’ve upvoted his comment so far think:

Alisdair_ 25 points 1 day ago* (41|16)      Naw. Men are the ones with the problem. Men are ruining society. Men need to pick up the slack. Men need to do this. Men need to do that. Nag nag nag nag nag. And you women wonder why we'd rather play video games than work or live with you...  It's like with a dog. If you let the dog do anything it wants to uncontested it will soon try to outright dominate you. Bite, bully and piss on you. People too are like this to an extent, some more than others, and in particular I find that a lot of women are like this or have an inclination to fall into bad habits there as all these bullying and mocking articles exemplify in my humble opinion. In the west it's basically become illegal to put the foot down to this if it's a woman doing it to you. So if you live with a woman you have to put up with it or you'll be in jail soon for some bogus lie told to the police. In contrast a well mannered and trained dog, one subject to consequences for bad behavior, can be an amazing and fulfilling companion. Imagine if you will if there was a feminism for dogs and you basically had to live with wild wolves and dingos. You'd see a dramatic drop in people with dogs.

Thanks to chewinchawingum in the AgainstMensRights subreddit for pointing out this lovely quote. Huh. There’s something that seems oddly familiar about chewinchawingum.

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Alice Sanguinaria
7 years ago

So that’s why they call us bitches when they disagree with our opinion!

Mathew Kagis
7 years ago

Well, If we are to take this asshat’s analogy further: ALL CATS are feminist.
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/look-im-a-human-cat.jpg

Ashley
7 years ago

Oh the dumbassery. Women are like dogs. What a popular comparison among the men’s entitlement movement. If only they realized how that argument looks to the rational mind of anyone with any decent intelligence.

kittehserf
7 years ago

“Men’s entitlement movement” – great renaming, Ashley.

Little Alisdair shows all too clearly that women = people is something he either can’t grasp or doesn’t want to hear. I suspect the latter. In fact I don’t think for a minute that any of these misogynists really doesn’t get that women are human beings, it’s simply that they want all the power over us they used to have (and still do, in too many parts of the world).

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

I love how there’s this assumption that dominance MUST be part of relationships. You can’t be two equals, oh no, there has to be the dominant one, and the submissive one who obeys.

GAG.

kittehserf
7 years ago

Yes, and that it MUST be the man who dominates.

I really hope these hateful fuckers never get into a relationship with anything other than a fleshlight.

Athywren
Athywren
7 years ago

I’ll never understand the comparison to dogs as if it’s a negative thing… dogs are pretty awesome. I mean, cats are better, but dogs are still cool.
That said, women are not animals to be housebroken. Granted, neither are men…. but women aren’t trying to housebreak us when they nag us, they’re trying to get us to help them keep the house, apartment, or fortress of solitude in a livable state.
Oh, and by the way, if you’re “disciplining her” as you seem to be desperate to do… it’s not some lie told to the police that gets you in jail (assuming it actually does get you in jail) – it’s the disciplining, and the fractures that go along with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, women hit too, that’s a terribly important fact to bring up at every possible opportunity. WE’RE NOT IN FAVOUR OF THAT EITHER YOU FUCKING MORONS!

Anyway… cake, anyone?

kittehserf
7 years ago

Mathew Kagis – love that kitty pic! 😀

kittehserf
7 years ago

Athywren – +1.

Yes please, cake would be lovely. Shall I pour the tea/coffee?

Athywren
Athywren
7 years ago

I really hate the idea that men have to be dominant… I’m not a dominator, nor do I really have any desire to be. I prefer the democratic route – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGTWmrnPdgk

augochlorella
augochlorella
7 years ago

And MRA #28495759 to list avoiding women as their reason for playing video games.

Is that actually their main reason for playing games? No “I want to have fun solving the puzzles and catching the Magikarp and fighting the dragons”? Just boner rage? Because that’s actually really sad.

Athywren
Athywren
7 years ago

I’ll have an apple juice, thanks. :3
*slices cake into pieces*

kittehserf
7 years ago

Yeah, the whole male = dominant thing irks me too. It so often translates to domineering, and I loathe people like that, regardless of gender (though men’s general larger build and louder voices make me dislike it even more in them, because of the implicit physical threat).

kittehserf
7 years ago

Would you like some apple wine? M’lord makes it. Very light, like cider but not heavy.

Athywren
Athywren
7 years ago

Ooh, apple wine sounds appealing… but I’ve already doubled this year’s alcohol intake over this weekend alone (I had an entire three rum + cherry cokes, taking my yearly total up to a whopping six drinks!) so I think I should show a bit of restraint now. 😛

Hyena Girl
7 years ago

You know these days society is so mean to men, if they’re caught treating a dog the way they talk about treating women then there’s a fair chance they’d also go to jail.

Of course given my own views and favorites I imagine the poor MRAs would have a heart attack if they read about how a hyena clan operates.

kittehserf
7 years ago

The apple wine can be non-alcoholic if you like! Sir has the power. 🙂

::noms cake::

kittehserf
7 years ago

Also, here is moar cake.

Hyena Girl
7 years ago

Ohhh apple wine.

Alice Sanguinaria
7 years ago

Wait, if apple wine is non alcoholic, does that make it apple juice? 😛

La Strega
7 years ago

Something tells me this guy is a complete failure at dog training as well as relating to women.

oraclenine (@Oraclenine)

Shorter Alisdair_ : Women aren’t people.

I’ll spare y’all my semi-rant on Dogs Don’t Work Like That, And Neither Do Wolves. Because argh.

Hyena Girl
7 years ago

@oraclenine
Neither do hyenas, Alisdair is a mighty tower of fail.

sparky
sparky
7 years ago

He’s upset he can’t hit a woman who mocks him, and that’s totally ruining society, because, of course, it’s totally okay and civilized to hit people who upset you.

And, oh yeah, women lie and the police just go around arresting random men based on what some woman says.

kittehserf: “In fact, I don’t think for a minute that any of these misogynists really doesn’t get that women are human beings, it’s simply they want all the power over us they used to have (and still do, in many parts of the world).” Yes, I think you’re right there. At least, I hope you’re right, at least about most of them. That’s a pretty revolting thing to believe that one person is entitled to power over another person. What scares me is, that some of these MRAs actually deep down believe that women (and anybody who isn’t a straight white cis male) is subhuman. That is a level of scary that keeps me up at night.

kittehserf
7 years ago

Alice – it’s crisper than apple juice, and lighter. I call it wine but I don’t think it’s alcoholic (at least, drinks affecting one like alcohol are not a thing in our place over There). 🙂

girlofthegaps
girlofthegaps
7 years ago

Heh, I’m glad you’re setting a good example for me, Oraclenine, so that I don’t have to do that rant either 🙂

Srsly, that shit is a huuuuuge pet peeve of mine.

dustydeste
dustydeste
7 years ago

Oh, and I’m totally up for chocolate cake and apple wine! Sounds delicious!

thebewilderness
7 years ago

YES! Feminism is disobedience training!
I hope it is working as well as this creepy d00d thinks it is.

Shaun DarthBatman Day
7 years ago

“You know these days society is so mean to men, if they’re caught treating a dog the way they talk about treating women then there’s a fair chance they’d also go to jail.”

Actually there’s a much greater chance that they would go to jail.

kittehserf
7 years ago

::hands round cake and wine::

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

These guys are just not that smart.

Cake and wine? Yes, please. I just watched Breaking Bad, I need a drink.

Mathew Kagis
7 years ago

@kittehserf: Iknowright? Certainly personified in the attitude of the 3 cats that rule our house.

Sorry Gang, got no cake. HOWEVER we are currently sipping on a 2011 La Frenz Merlot (from Naramata BC, Canada) while the short ribs roast in the oven. #JustSaying

Falconer
7 years ago

I love how there’s this assumption that dominance MUST be part of relationships. You can’t be two equals, oh no, there has to be the dominant one, and the submissive one who obeys.

I had a college roommate like that once.

kittehserf
7 years ago

Rib roast? Yum!

Are you newly delurked, or a returning commenter? Have a Welcome Package with complimentary hard chairs and penguins for added misandry. 🙂

Always good to have more cat servants on site.

katz
7 years ago

“You know these days society is so mean to men, if they’re caught treating a dog the way they talk about treating women then there’s a fair chance they’d also go to jail.”

Actually there’s a much greater chance that they would go to jail.

Actually it’s practically impossible to go to jail for animal cruelty 🙁 Even when it does get punished, it’s usually just fines and mild penalties.

MaudeLL
7 years ago

I’m curious what makes Alisdair believe that women really want to live with misogynists and are secretly trying to keep them from playing video games. I have never met a man who is constantly placated by women trying to live with him; it might lead to a good ‘Daily Mail’ article. Unless Alisdair just has a gut feeling that women are trying to coerce him into conjugal bliss.

Personally, I only want them to quit playing video games to filter away all the fake geek MRA boys, that’s all.

kittehserf
7 years ago

Someone should tell Alisdair the name for his gut feeling is gas.

Alice
Alice
7 years ago

I doubt there is a single woman on the planet pining for Alisdair and wishing he would only put down the video games and glance her way. Guess what, MRAs, nobody wants you.

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: Falconer

I pity you. Sounds like a shit roommate.

kittehserf
7 years ago

This is the thing, isn’t it? It’s never enough for them to say they don’t want a relationship with a woman, and leave it at that. What they really want is to abuse us.

Ally S
7 years ago

LBT, this is totally OT, but in spite of your warnings I made an account on Tumblr, and hooooooly fuck there are some weird feminists there. The person who encouraged me to get a Tumblr is decent and so are some of her friends’ Tumblrs I’ve been following, but sometimes I feel like I’m navigating a minefield.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
7 years ago

I’ll stop leaving fang marks of mockery all over MRAs when they stop wearing the equivalent of bacon tuxedos.

kittehserf
7 years ago

Morbid curiosity time – what sort of weird, Ally? (Tumblr and Twitter are places I have no intention of visiting.)

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: Ally

Oh lord. My personal advice is to avoid anything political as much as possible, because you WILL encounter dingbats of truly astonishing dingery battery. Also, do not wander searching alone–hubby was searching for porn and STILL found anti-gay marriage crap. (Now, why that guy chose to tag his ‘traditional marriage’ shit with a bunch of porn tags like ‘yiff’ god only knows.)

LBT
LBT
7 years ago

RE: Kittehserf

I have PLENTY of tumblr dingbat stories, if you want. And I don’t even SEEK them.

Ally S
7 years ago

I’ve ran into some radically anti-kink feminists with a very low opinion of men. And I’m not talking about anti-male bigotry like the “misandry” that MRAs complain about – I’m talking about outright hatred towards men. And then I saw a post linking to an article actually valorizing the hatred of men.

It’s a little upsetting to me because, aside from the fact that I detest such hatred, I have many great cis and trans* male allies. And I don’t like it when there are radical feminist trans* women who act like they speak for me when they talk about how horrible men are. I hate that shit.

Ally S
7 years ago

RE: Ally

Oh lord. My personal advice is to avoid anything political as much as possible, because you WILL encounter dingbats of truly astonishing dingery battery. Also, do not wander searching alone–hubby was searching for porn and STILL found anti-gay marriage crap. (Now, why that guy chose to tag his ‘traditional marriage’ shit with a bunch of porn tags like ‘yiff’ god only knows.)

Well, I know some political Tumblrs that are awesome, including my friend’s Tumblr. But I’m also running into a lot of horrible political stuff, so I’ll loosely follow your suggestion for sure.

Here’s my Tumblr BTW: http://iaf-thoughts.tumblr.com/

kittehserf
7 years ago

Radfem trans* women???

I don’t even … how on earth do the TERFS cope, knowing such people exist?

Dingery battery indeed.

sparky
sparky
7 years ago

Pardon, what is a TERF?

Ally S
7 years ago

Oh, Kitteh, they aren’t TERFs. Some radical feminists don’t have TERF views at all. But I still don’t like many of them.

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