Today, some farm fresh misogyny, straight from the virtual pages of MGTOWforums.com, in the form of a sprawling rant on the blackhearted nature of the female of the species by a fellow known only as Hamish. I have taken the liberty of condensing the rant somewhat, and of breaking up Hamish’s walls of text into shorter paragraphs. The original director’s cut of his comment can be found here.
[T]he prettier a woman is on the outside, the blacker her heart is on the inside. Underneath that pretty exterior does indeed lurk a monster. That women are driven by their highly fickle “feelings” rather than by logic is the scariest and most dangerous part about them.
[W]omen are so fickle that they vacillate between wanting Nick the nice guy who will be nice and romantic to them one day and wanting Tommy the thug who will treat her like absolute crap the next day. Indeed sometimes they want both these things at the same time …
What cupcake wants is a composite male, the ingredients of which are a blend of The Rock, Matt Damon, Donald Trump, Justin Timberlake, Hugh Jackman, Mike Tyson, David Bowie, Tony Montana, Ronaldo and Michael Buble …
With women being so irrational, so utterly unreasonable and unrealistic in their demands, it is absolutely inevitable that … there will come a point where she will feel dissatisfied with her date/her fuck buddy/her boyfriend/her fiance/her husband, whatever. And remember what a women feels is her hamster, logic doesn’t get a look in.
For men morality is largely a logical, learned thing – ten commandments, thou shalt not steal/kill, whatever. But for a woman what she feels is the be all and end all … And if that means fucking over and grinding into the dust good, decent men … purely on account that she no longer feels entirely satisfied with him, then so be it – how she feels must prevail above all other factors. …
[A]nd what’s more many women seem to be thoroughly enjoy crushing such men too – the more decent and genuine a guy is, the more pleasure they take in crushing him.
The reason for this is women … see niceness and decency as a sign of weakness and they begin to look down on that male with utter contempt. ….
This explains why it’s always the nicest guys that women fuck over the worst – and why they take great pleasure in doing so and in twisting the knife. To onlooking men this kind of stuff looks like a horrible, unjustifiable act of black hearted pitilessness – but to women, it’s nothing … .
This illogical thinking and intrinsic fickleness on the part of women winds up in women becoming capricious, merciless tyrants. But of course to be tyrants women have to have power – sure they always had the power of the pussy, but much more sinisterly women are now armed to the teeth and dangerous – armed by the law/the state that is …
Women have the state/big government backing them up to the hilt at every turn – to the extent that women now have the power at their fingertips to destroy or at least seriously mess up/disrupt the life of any man they’re sexually involved with – and … many women … can’t … resist abusing this power. And not only to mess up men’s lives and defame their character … but of course to loot men too – often of their entire net worth.
The madness of all this is that the state has placed all this power in the hands of beings who are intrinsically fickle and capricious by nature. So having been armed by the state, women are now not only fickle and capricious, worse than that they have now upgraded to fickle and capricious tyrants, who have a licence from the state to ruin men’s lives on a whim.
Having been so armed by the state, women are now akin to the capricious psychopath boss at work, who fires people just because he’s in a bad mood, or the capricious psychopath dictator, who has citizens locked up or killed on a whim.
In the case of the psycho boss or the dictator, they behave in this manner because (1) they have the power to do it (2) they can do it without any comeback to them and (3) they get off on it.
And this is exactly the dynamics involved when women fuck over men – women fuck over men because they have the power to do it (or more accurately the state has bestowed that power on them), they can do it without any comeback to them or negative consequences for them and they also do it because they just damned well get a sadistic kick from doing do.
So yes, underneath those physically appealing pretty girls (and indeed in many less physically appealing girls too) does indeed lurk an evil monster – one that is armed, dangerous, and utterly pitiless.
And … scene!
The truly weird thing about this rant is that, as some Man Boobz old timers may recall, the Hamish who wrote this rant is not the first MGTOW named Hamish I’ve written about on this blog. But the last one wasn’t actually real: he was a character who appeared, in cartoon form, in the dreams of a Man Boobz reader. As she wrote in an email to me,
after a day of reading a particularly large amount of your posts, I had a strange dream about this guy who sits on a train and describes some STDs he caught in great (and terrifying) detail to whoever is silly enough to listen. His goal is to dissuade other men from making the same mistake he did — having sex with women. Because to “Hamish the Lover” … all women are dirty and evil and should be avoided at all costs.
Now this mysterious dream lover Hamish has a namesake on MGTOWforums.com, writing long rants on how … all women are evil and should be avoided at all costs.
Kind of creepy, eh?
The dreamer also sent me a picture of Hamish the Lover as he had appeared in her dream. Here he is again.
He looks like a bit of a charming rogue. Too bad he’s an asshole.
Ally – yep, you’ll turn all pink and fluffy and never want to do anything but bake cupcakes again. Or, if you’re a really successful Destroyer of Men, make them bake your cupcakes for you.
My ladybrain can’t handle all of this science. Why did I choose to go into a STEM field? 🙁
melody – here’s what I’ve found so far:
http://www.loveisrespect.org/is-this-abuse/types-of-abuse/what-is-stalking
http://www.victimsofcrime.org/docs/src/tips-for-victims.pdf?sfvrsn=2
Princess Bonbon:
I thought so too. It’s really nice to see a couple that happy together. Mum was in hospital at the time but her doctors said it would be fine to take her home for the evening so we could have a big party for them. My sister cooked for us all and it was awesome! We were so happy for them!
There are some Popehat readers here, right? Someone is plugging it on r/mr, so you might keep an eye out for any new, mangry visitors:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1mll2p/popehat_discussion_of_public_shaming_for_internet/
Cloudiah — pecunium is, you have his email or you want me to email him? I think you have it right? (Though I’m perpetually emailing him, so if you think it’d be less weird from me, I’ll be happy to drop him a warning)
Melody, if your friend gets a restraining order, tell her to add in third party contacts.
Oh, so he can’t bother the rest of us either?
I should ask her what she intends to do about this situation. We all live in the same town after all and while we all live on the eastside and he lives on the westside it doesn’t change the fact that we will run into each other sometimes.
Argenti, feel free — I think I do have his email, but I’d have to dig for it (and I am lazy).
Done!
I pick Loki!
Manosphere: AHA!! you women and your bad boys dark triad blah blah blah
Fine, I pick Thor.
Manosphere: Pffffffft…you bitches, so shallow always wanting a muscled pretty boy jock with thunder powers
SIGH…ok, neither of them.
Manosphere: HOW DARE YOU DENY MEN YOUR LADY PARTS??? who do you think you are, a golden vagina?
Yeah, it’d probably go something like that.
Hamish has provided a new option:
Lady Person: I like different things about all those characters.
Manosphere: So you want a composite male with the best parts of everyone in the world? You think you’re so special! Talk about demanding!
Come to think of it, my husband is smart like Bruce Banner, funny like Tony Stark, morally upstanding like Captain America, um, he’s Italian like the Punisher…my god, I’m a monster!
Before I run off to dinner, I wanted to share this illustration of inappropriate vs. appropriate cat-calling.
Shaenon – And that’s not even enough for you, is it?! How long until you’re back on the carousel? *insert hypergamy rant*
cloudiah, I want the second type of cat calling!
Now, important question: Sir’s wearing his black tee shirt (seen here in a brand new picture!) today. Does that make him a bad boy or a thug according to the immutable standards of MGTOW?
This guy sounds really, really, really bitter. Did some evil harpy dump his nice guy tm ass?
@princessbonbon
Of course it’s logical, it was thought of by a MAN! XD
@Shaenon
I take a third option and pick Sif 😛
@falconer
But if we’re attracted to Black Widow how will any sexy mens get laid ever??????
@cloudiah
::oms popcorn::
@cloudiah
I think I found the glamorous ones pretty laughable but I already closed it and am too lazy to scroll up.
@”greater good”
their children? It takes two to tango, bub.
@cloudiah
Is greater good a new troll? What’s his shtick?
Me either. And my stepmom seemed surprised when I said my mom didn’t, which was weird. Does she think all women pluck eyebrows? :/ (my mom doesn’t, though I think she may have when she was younger? I’m not sure though, I’ve never given her an eyebrow-interview.)
@good
that’s nice dear.
Ps is anyone actually reading his links?
Some people have, Marie – there are some nice takedowns upthread.
@Marie
Nope. Not reading Good’s links. Good is a moron.
kitteh – I think he’d be labeled a mangina. I think he looks more deep and artsy than dangerous and mean.
@coffeeyum
Hi + welcomed 😀
@melody
That sucks 🙁 Hugs for you and friend if you want them.
@Shaenon
You’re so devious XD
@kittehs
I don’t know, but black shirts are awesome.
@kittehs
Yay. I was kinda trying to skim to catch up. I
Hi!
Marie:
No, he has no argument, he’s just dumping links on the thread so why would I bother? When he makes an argument and uses the links to support it I’d reconsider but at the moment he’s just lazy and rude.
coffeeyum – I’m afraid you’re right, they’d write him off as a total mangina, even though he led an army across the Alps in winter back in the day. That would be totally outweighed by him enjoying knitting as well as woodwork and being a sucker for the Furrinati.
That whole “women always go for bad boys/thugs” thing needs to finally die. People, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, etc. can be attracted to people who have shitty personalities or treat them badly.
Manosphere guys themselves are always complaining about how horrible women are, but if they really think women are so horrible, yet these men still want to have sex with the woman, wouldn’t that prove that “men always go for bad girls”? Of course, It doesn’t, because:
a. A lot of the horrible behavior they ascribe to women just boils down to “she wouldn’t have sex with me but she’s having sex with other people!” or “She exists and she’s doing stuff! Waaaaahhh!!!”
b. Even if it was actual horrible behavior, the fact that some men may be attracted to women who have shitty personalities would not mean that ALL men are attracted to “bad girls”. And yet, when a woman is in an abusive relationship, out comes the Angry Internet Niceguy(TM) Squad with “SEE! This is what ALL women want! They should be fucking ME* instead! Because I’m a NICEGUY(TM)!!! Why aren’t they fucking MEEEE???!!!?”
* The other aspect being that sometimes the “jerk” in question isn’t even a jerk, but the fact that the woman the NiceGuy(TM) wants is into him makes the guy guilty of being a jerk, in our NiceGuy(TM)’s eyes.
To clarify that last part, I mean that sometimes the guy being accused by NiceGuys(TM) of being a jerk isn’t actually doing jerky things. A guy who’s actually being abusive to a woman is definitely a jerk.
becausescience – “being the guy in a relationship with womanthing the NiceGuy(TM) wants” is pretty much the definition of being a jerk, for this lot.
It’d also be nice to think that Alleged Jerk got the title by seeing what arseholes and fuckwits the NiceGuys(TM) are, and treating them accordingly.