Today, some farm fresh misogyny, straight from the virtual pages of MGTOWforums.com, in the form of a sprawling rant on the blackhearted nature of the female of the species by a fellow known only as Hamish. I have taken the liberty of condensing the rant somewhat, and of breaking up Hamish’s walls of text into shorter paragraphs. The original director’s cut of his comment can be found here.
[T]he prettier a woman is on the outside, the blacker her heart is on the inside. Underneath that pretty exterior does indeed lurk a monster. That women are driven by their highly fickle “feelings” rather than by logic is the scariest and most dangerous part about them.
[W]omen are so fickle that they vacillate between wanting Nick the nice guy who will be nice and romantic to them one day and wanting Tommy the thug who will treat her like absolute crap the next day. Indeed sometimes they want both these things at the same time …
What cupcake wants is a composite male, the ingredients of which are a blend of The Rock, Matt Damon, Donald Trump, Justin Timberlake, Hugh Jackman, Mike Tyson, David Bowie, Tony Montana, Ronaldo and Michael Buble …
With women being so irrational, so utterly unreasonable and unrealistic in their demands, it is absolutely inevitable that … there will come a point where she will feel dissatisfied with her date/her fuck buddy/her boyfriend/her fiance/her husband, whatever. And remember what a women feels is her hamster, logic doesn’t get a look in.
For men morality is largely a logical, learned thing – ten commandments, thou shalt not steal/kill, whatever. But for a woman what she feels is the be all and end all … And if that means fucking over and grinding into the dust good, decent men … purely on account that she no longer feels entirely satisfied with him, then so be it – how she feels must prevail above all other factors. …
[A]nd what’s more many women seem to be thoroughly enjoy crushing such men too – the more decent and genuine a guy is, the more pleasure they take in crushing him.
The reason for this is women … see niceness and decency as a sign of weakness and they begin to look down on that male with utter contempt. ….
This explains why it’s always the nicest guys that women fuck over the worst – and why they take great pleasure in doing so and in twisting the knife. To onlooking men this kind of stuff looks like a horrible, unjustifiable act of black hearted pitilessness – but to women, it’s nothing … .
This illogical thinking and intrinsic fickleness on the part of women winds up in women becoming capricious, merciless tyrants. But of course to be tyrants women have to have power – sure they always had the power of the pussy, but much more sinisterly women are now armed to the teeth and dangerous – armed by the law/the state that is …
Women have the state/big government backing them up to the hilt at every turn – to the extent that women now have the power at their fingertips to destroy or at least seriously mess up/disrupt the life of any man they’re sexually involved with – and … many women … can’t … resist abusing this power. And not only to mess up men’s lives and defame their character … but of course to loot men too – often of their entire net worth.
The madness of all this is that the state has placed all this power in the hands of beings who are intrinsically fickle and capricious by nature. So having been armed by the state, women are now not only fickle and capricious, worse than that they have now upgraded to fickle and capricious tyrants, who have a licence from the state to ruin men’s lives on a whim.
Having been so armed by the state, women are now akin to the capricious psychopath boss at work, who fires people just because he’s in a bad mood, or the capricious psychopath dictator, who has citizens locked up or killed on a whim.
In the case of the psycho boss or the dictator, they behave in this manner because (1) they have the power to do it (2) they can do it without any comeback to them and (3) they get off on it.
And this is exactly the dynamics involved when women fuck over men – women fuck over men because they have the power to do it (or more accurately the state has bestowed that power on them), they can do it without any comeback to them or negative consequences for them and they also do it because they just damned well get a sadistic kick from doing do.
So yes, underneath those physically appealing pretty girls (and indeed in many less physically appealing girls too) does indeed lurk an evil monster – one that is armed, dangerous, and utterly pitiless.
And … scene!
The truly weird thing about this rant is that, as some Man Boobz old timers may recall, the Hamish who wrote this rant is not the first MGTOW named Hamish I’ve written about on this blog. But the last one wasn’t actually real: he was a character who appeared, in cartoon form, in the dreams of a Man Boobz reader. As she wrote in an email to me,
after a day of reading a particularly large amount of your posts, I had a strange dream about this guy who sits on a train and describes some STDs he caught in great (and terrifying) detail to whoever is silly enough to listen. His goal is to dissuade other men from making the same mistake he did — having sex with women. Because to “Hamish the Lover” … all women are dirty and evil and should be avoided at all costs.
Now this mysterious dream lover Hamish has a namesake on MGTOWforums.com, writing long rants on how … all women are evil and should be avoided at all costs.
Kind of creepy, eh?
The dreamer also sent me a picture of Hamish the Lover as he had appeared in her dream. Here he is again.
He looks like a bit of a charming rogue. Too bad he’s an asshole.
coffeeyum – good point. No periods, but you’re constantly worrying on whether your contraception worked or not.
Argenti – I noticed. I feel like the moment you’re dropping links without comment, you automatically lose the “debate”.
Alice – And you have no period to clue you in! You just have to hope you don’t start getting morning sickness.
What I don’t really get is hamish’s rant makes it sound like guys can be only “nice guys” or “thugs”, and there is literally nothing in between, like being a full human being with stregths, weaknesses, good traits and bad all in one person. To me this is much more common, people are rarely (if ever) all bad or all good, all submissive or all “alpha”. People are complicated. And these guys say they’re justice warriors for men? By putting their peers all in constricting boxes? Yep, that’s logical.
Also, my ideal man is comprised of many, if not all parts Hugo Weaving… 😉
OT, but check out this Feministe troll (nym is Sofia Ambrosini):
http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2013/09/13/where-are-the-womens-voices-on-syria/
There have been plenty of awful Feministe trolls, but this one rivals MRAs in regards to derailing skills and straw man-making abilities. Pretty much half of the comment thread is about this troll now.
Bad_dog – Agreed! A (truly) nice guy doesn’t have to be a stuttering doormat. He can be confident. Just like a shy, meek guy can be a jerk. Many of they guys Dave writes about are proof of that. You can’t determine someone’s full personality based on one or two traits.
coffeeyum – I know right? Or you could probably see if you can get pregnancy tests in bulk, but that’s not fun either.
bad_dog – People like hamish like to think that there’s only two choices for both men and women: men are either “nice guys” or “thugs”, and women are either “whores” or “Madonnas”. And I get the feeling that MRAs just see women as simply hypergameous sluts riding the cock carousal and feeding off the blood of all of the hard working men in the world (after all, we just like sitting at home eating bon bons).
First: not relevant, but super freaky. My friends stalker has texted me and tried to become my friend on facebook.
These guys think they are the nice guys. And anyone who doesn’t agree with them is a thug. I mean look at the post they make there is a lot of the same level of thinking and the same thought. So, maybe they don’t think folks are complicated…..(this was really hard to type out from my brain and probably doesn’t make as much sense as it should).
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Coffeeyum: exactly. And most self-proclaimed “nice guys” are seething hatred just below the surface. And most people can pick up on that and stay away or at least are guarded. And these “nice guys” translate this to “well bitch just wants a thug and not someone (who ACTS) nice (on the surface) like me”
melody – I would guess the stalker is trying to use you as an alternative means to keep tabs on your friend.
And I get what you’re saying about their apparent hivemind. It’s very us vs. them which makes it easy to over simplify the types of people in the world.
Hivemind. Thank you that is a WAY better way of saying it than my way. LOL
Oh, I don’t doubt that he is trying to connect with her through me. Its just we are all super nervous about what his limitations are.
Have the police been contacted? Is your friend keeping a log of all his attempts at contact? Sorry I don’t have any better advice. I need to look up cute animal videos.
Good has resorted to Deadspin. Jesus wept. Then he laughed at Good.
Not as far as I know. I don’t really know how to deal with this situation. They used to be friends, but then he got all weird. He wrote some freaky things in his diary and then left it in front of her bedroom door once.
I don’t really know if they intend to do anything about it unless it escalates again. Mostly we all try to avoid him.
Oh, cute animal videos are great. Have you seen the one with the foxes on the trampoline.
Men are more logical because women have hormones which cause us to be emotional, but instead of hormones men have testosterone, which is sometimes called “the logic chemical”.
Lawyers and PhD candidates will often abuse testosterone to make themselves more logical, and then lose control and just design bridges and solve theorems until the effects wear off.
Melody, that’s horrible. Stalkers need to step on all the LEGOs.
Ah, yes I remember reading about the benefit of testosterone in biology class.
melody – I can look stuff up about dealing with stalker behavior for you so you can pass it on to your friend if you’d like.
That video is adorable. Of course now I can’t look at anything to do with foxes without a certain song popping into my head.
coffeeyum, welcome (again, possibly)!
OMG GIANT KITTEH PURRS
I had to take over the boss’s computer to watch that. His has sound, mine doesn’t.
I would SO love to pat a leopard/tiger/jaguar/lion/cheetah/puma/any big cat really.
Tam – LOL!
Are you newly delurked? If so, have a Welcome Package!
What does the fox say?
Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!!!!!
Thanks coffeeyum. Oh, I totally lover your username.
Hi, kitteh!
You know, I’ve been coding all sorts of programming languages and working as a web developer, but as soon as I start taking anti-testosterone hormones, I’m sure that I’ll lose my job and stay away from programming forever. That’s just how life is, I guess.