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Hamish the MGTOW: “Underneath those physically appealing pretty girls does indeed lurk an evil monster.”

So beautiful, so evil.
So beautiful, so evil.

Today, some farm fresh misogyny, straight from the virtual pages of MGTOWforums.com, in the form of a sprawling rant on the blackhearted nature of the female of the species by a fellow known only as Hamish. I have taken the liberty of condensing the rant somewhat, and of breaking up Hamish’s walls of text into shorter paragraphs. The original director’s cut of his comment can be found here.

[T]he prettier a woman is on the outside, the blacker her heart is on the inside. Underneath that pretty exterior does indeed lurk a monster. That women are driven by their highly fickle “feelings” rather than by logic is the scariest and most dangerous part about them.

[W]omen are so fickle that they vacillate between wanting Nick the nice guy who will be nice and romantic to them one day and wanting Tommy the thug who will treat her like absolute crap the next day. Indeed sometimes they want both these things at the same time …

What cupcake wants is a composite male, the ingredients of which are a blend of The Rock, Matt Damon, Donald Trump, Justin Timberlake, Hugh Jackman, Mike Tyson, David Bowie, Tony Montana, Ronaldo and Michael Buble …

With women being so irrational, so utterly unreasonable and unrealistic in their demands, it is absolutely inevitable that … there will come a point where she will feel dissatisfied with her date/her fuck buddy/her boyfriend/her fiance/her husband, whatever. And remember what a women feels is her hamster, logic doesn’t get a look in.

For men morality is largely a logical, learned thing – ten commandments, thou shalt not steal/kill, whatever. But for a woman what she feels is the be all and end all … And if that means fucking over and grinding into the dust good, decent men … purely on account that she no longer feels entirely satisfied with him, then so be it – how she feels must prevail above all other factors. …

[A]nd what’s more many women seem to be thoroughly enjoy crushing such men too – the more decent and genuine a guy is, the more pleasure they take in crushing him.

The reason for this is women … see niceness and decency as a sign of weakness and they begin to look down on that male with utter contempt. ….

This explains why it’s always the nicest guys that women fuck over the worst – and why they take great pleasure in doing so and in twisting the knife. To onlooking men this kind of stuff looks like a horrible, unjustifiable act of black hearted pitilessness – but to women, it’s nothing … .

This illogical thinking and intrinsic fickleness on the part of women winds up in women becoming capricious, merciless tyrants. But of course to be tyrants women have to have power – sure they always had the power of the pussy, but much more sinisterly women are now armed to the teeth and dangerous – armed by the law/the state that is …

Women have the state/big government backing them up to the hilt at every turn – to the extent that women now have the power at their fingertips to destroy or at least seriously mess up/disrupt the life of any man they’re sexually involved with – and … many women … can’t … resist abusing this power. And not only to mess up men’s lives and defame their character … but of course to loot men too – often of their entire net worth.

The madness of all this is that the state has placed all this power in the hands of beings who are intrinsically fickle and capricious by nature. So having been armed by the state, women are now not only fickle and capricious, worse than that they have now upgraded to fickle and capricious tyrants, who have a licence from the state to ruin men’s lives on a whim.

Having been so armed by the state, women are now akin to the capricious psychopath boss at work, who fires people just because he’s in a bad mood, or the capricious psychopath dictator, who has citizens locked up or killed on a whim.

In the case of the psycho boss or the dictator, they behave in this manner because (1) they have the power to do it (2) they can do it without any comeback to them and (3) they get off on it.

And this is exactly the dynamics involved when women fuck over men – women fuck over men because they have the power to do it (or more accurately the state has bestowed that power on them), they can do it without any comeback to them or negative consequences for them and they also do it because they just damned well get a sadistic kick from doing do.

So yes, underneath those physically appealing pretty girls (and indeed in many less physically appealing girls too) does indeed lurk an evil monster – one that is armed, dangerous, and utterly pitiless.

And … scene!

The truly weird thing about this rant is that, as some Man Boobz old timers may recall, the Hamish who wrote this rant is not the first MGTOW named Hamish I’ve written about on this blog. But the last one wasn’t actually real: he was a character who appeared, in cartoon form, in the dreams of a Man Boobz reader. As she wrote in an email to me,

after a day of reading a particularly large amount of your posts, I had a strange dream about this guy who sits on a train and describes some STDs he caught in great (and terrifying) detail to whoever is silly enough to listen. His goal is to dissuade other men from making the same mistake he did — having sex with women. Because to “Hamish the Lover” … all women are dirty and evil and should be avoided at all costs.

Now this mysterious dream lover Hamish has a namesake on MGTOWforums.com, writing long rants on how … all women are evil and should be avoided at all costs.

Kind of creepy, eh?

The dreamer also sent me a picture of Hamish the Lover as he had appeared in her dream. Here he is again.

He looks like a bit of a charming rogue. Too bad he’s an asshole.

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Dvärghundspossen
11 years ago

The Ten Commandments (regardless of which Biblical set of 10 you actually opt to use) are a set of rules meant solely to reinforce the current social order of their time, and have little if anything to do with ‘morality’ or personal conscience; the overlap between the 10C and most attempts to derive a logically coherent ethical framework is pretty much pure coincidence.

I don’t think it’s pure coincidence. I mean, even if I put on an atheist hat I think it’s implausible that religious moral rules are completely disconnected from more intuitive morality and merely about reinforcing the social order – it seems more plausible that there were mixed motives behind anyone preaching religious moral rules, reinforcing the social order mixed up and blended with genuine moral appreciation, meaning it’s not a pure coincidence how much it overlaps with secular moral philosophy.

But if we put that quibble aside – if you’re a Christian, you’ve learned the commandments, and you also feel that they make sense because you can see that you don’t like people stealing from you, and others are people just like you so you shouldn’t steal from others, and lusting after having an affair is wrong even if you’re thwarted in your attempts to have one because people shouldn’t lie to each other and go behind each others back and so on – in short, if you feel that they make sense, rather than just being a set of rules like football rules or whatever, you’re a moral person. But in that case, your morality isn’t just something you learned in Sunday school.

Dvärghundspossen
11 years ago

@Myoo: BEST ARGUMENT EVER.

Perry
Perry
11 years ago

Oh, Hamish. All those women didn’t reject you because they are evil monsters. They avoided you because you’re an asshole. Use some logic to figure it out.

cloudiah
11 years ago

I just read something like

And remember what a women feels is her hamster, logic doesn’t get a look in.

and think these guys are so far down the rabbit (hamster?) hole, they aren’t ever coming back out.

Hey, there’s a new Pierre:
http://pierre.thecomicseries.com/comics/pl/338341

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

C — to these fools a woman’s hamster is her brain because all she has in her head is a rationalization hamster.

“Volunteers to help me build a full-scale medieval seige catapult to help Hamish here on his own way?”

Count me in. And seeing how he’d enjoy the catapult part, my brother would probably go all “I can build a WHAT?!?!” and join us (warning, don’t get him started on weapons that go boom or he’ll never shut up)

grumpycatisagirl
grumpycatisagirl
11 years ago

I’m still waiting for all this immense power. I don’t feel very powerful today.

Fibinachi
Fibinachi
11 years ago

Just read Manboobz enough, and you will gradually manifest superpowers. Mine’s synesthesia!

katz
11 years ago

Hamish.

Hamish.

Hamish.

Why would you choose that as your handle?

historophilia
historophilia
11 years ago

Argenti, well we could build something that made Hamish go boom.

If we exploded him I’m sure no-one would mind terribly.

pecunium
11 years ago

I go for a trebuchet, we give him a light coat of very fine sodium powder and toss him in a lake.

Xen
Xen
11 years ago

“I also find it amusing that so many MRAs consider themselves to be driven by logic, discipline and reason and yet claim to be unable to control their base sexual urges around women, and then claim that we’re the ones driven by our feelings and the nefarious urgings of our id!”

This. So much.

Here’s two articles on emotion and logic: http://bigthink.com/experts-corner/decisions-are-emotional-not-logical-the-neuroscience-behind-decision-making and: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/brain-sense/200909/want-think-logically-trust-your-emotions

Both basically say you need emotions if you want to make decisions or even think logically.

The thing is, MRAs tend to nay say these kind of discoveries, blaming “liberal conspiracies” for feminizing men through science…Which is ridiculous. Science is science.

sparky
sparky
11 years ago

I have a problem. I have yet to receive my license to ruin men’s lives on a whim from the government. Who do I contact to remedy this situation? Do I start with my county, state or federal authorities? Is there a lot of paper work involved? Oh gee, I hope there’s not a test, like when I got driver’s and nursing license. I haven’t studied for it!

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

You’re evil.and I wonder how many other people will understand why.

Aren’t catapults easier tech though?

Historophilia — under no circumstances do we give my brother free reign with things that go boom. Particularly not if pecunium’s around to ensure he doesn’t make himself go boom.

katz
11 years ago

What cupcake wants is a composite male, the ingredients of which are a blend of The Rock, Matt Damon, Donald Trump, Justin Timberlake, Hugh Jackman, Mike Tyson, David Bowie, Tony Montana, Ronaldo and Michael Buble …

This sounds a lot like he’s just listing every man any woman has mentioned being attracted to in the past 20 years, in the fine MRA tradition of assuming that one woman is always speaking for all women, but Donald Trump kinda fucks it up.

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

There’s a test: are you a woman? Yes/no.

No ovary check or anything though, just the gender box. Of course, idk if I’m missing my license or should only have half of one or what.

Xen
Xen
11 years ago

No, I don’t want those guys! Give me Tom Hiddleston and Richard Armitage. They’re classy.

Shaenon
11 years ago

So a woman being attracted to a man with a crappy personality is proof that women are irrational, but Hamish’s attraction to women with crappy personalities is totally rational and definitely not proof that he’s driven by his feelings.

And women are dangerous because they’ve been armed by the state to…not date Hamish. The state just lets them run around not dating him! They’re mad with power!

I know these notions are common as dirt in the manosphere, but they never cease to amaze, especially when when the writer also brags about how logical he is compared to some dumb girl.

grumpycatisagirl
grumpycatisagirl
11 years ago

I want my composite male to be made of Stephen Colbert, Colin Firth and Elvis Costello.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
11 years ago

So a woman being attracted to a man with a crappy personality is proof that women are irrational, but Hamish’s attraction to women with crappy personalities is totally rational and definitely not proof that he’s driven by his feelings.

Let’s look at the premises of this argument, shall we?

-Men always make logical and rational decisions

-Women are given immense power over men by the government

-The government is, in the vast majority, composed of men

Therefore:

-Giving women immense power over men is a logical and rational decision, QED.

BAM! Pwned.

katz
11 years ago

See, I get the impression that guys like that hear a conversation like this, where different people mention the different guys they find attractive, and go “Nobody can be all those things at the same time! Women are way too picky!”

Cynickal
Cynickal
11 years ago

Fuckin’ facets! How do they work!?

Falconer
11 years ago

<blockquoteI go for a trebuchet, we give him a light coat of very fine sodium powder and toss him in a lake.

Someone other than me is going to have to work out how to keep Hamish from sweating for the brief period when he’s coated in sodium.

Aren’t catapults easier tech though?

It seems to me that a trebuchet doesn’t work on torsion, but relies on the fall of a heavy weight, and therefore would be easier to build because you don’t have to find the right tree trunk or wrap a rope the right way.

Also the trebuchet has a sling on its free end, which I think would be easier to use pour jeter la vache than a cup.

I can’t find what the stereotypical catapult is called, with a torsioned arm ending in a cup or bucket, and a frame that stops the arm from swinging too far forward of vertical. The closest I can come is an onager, and the illustration on Wikipedia doesn’t match the image in my head.

cloudiah
11 years ago

I wish I could draw, I would totally try my hand at that composite male. He’d have Trump’s hair, naturally. And Michael Bublé’s dual Italian-Canadian citizenship, since I can’t find anything else particularly attractive about Michael Bublé.

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Mike Tyson? Why does he think any woman has a convicted rapist on her wishlist?

Falconer
11 years ago

From hell’s heart, blockquote monster!!