“No one has shown me anything backing this up, about women getting paid less than men. Until someone shows me how scientific method resulting in this particular claim. I am going to have to say it is utter BS. And even if they do, I can think of a dozen reasons why the average pay of women is fairly less than men. A lot of those reasons include the disadvantage of children and single parenting, as well as generally more timidness.”
So basically it’s all the fault of women as to why we don’t make as much as men.
@Falconer
Thanks for the hugs. Unfortunately for me, it’s all shoved in my face every single day, even in my own home. So I can avoid it, even if I wanted to.
Thanks so much. It’s just an accumulative thing though, really. I was personally fighting against sexism in my life at 6 years old, over 30 years ago. I’m just really tired, & I don’t have the strength anymore.
I see what you mean. If you don’t mind me asking, do you have anyone to talk to in real life about the way you’re feeling? Or is everyone around you bigoted, anti-intellectual, etc?
Sorry, Tristan. I’ve been feeling that same worn-down way too lately too. I’m fortunate not to have to deal with it in my home. Even if it’s not home, I hope you have somewhere you can go to clear your mind of this nastiness.
Is that unequal-pay denying asshole someone you even need to have this discussion with? Sounds like arguing with a brick wall. Which is wearing, for sure.
No, he isn’t someone I have to have that discussion with. I was in a certain forum where I’m a regular (it’s a cult recovery forum), I responded to something, & he responded back with that, & I’m going to ignore him. He isn’t worth responding to. I’m just angry about it. Oh, & in the same thread a gay guy (who’s posts I usually like) acted like a total MUA. I felt sick & angered. Despite the presence of other feminists there, I’m not going to post there anymore.
Tristan — as long as you like other critters I think the feline overlords will overlook your inability to pet them. I’m a fish person myself after all (not a fish-person, cuz I’m a carrot and a fish-carrot would be weird)
I knew it – when dog cat rabbit hamster combination was mentioned, it was odds-on it’d be Sharky the pit bull and Max-Arthur the roomba-riding shark cat and some of their friends. 🙂
Tristan, adding my sympathy and wishing I had something practical to suggest. All I can say is, vent here, we’re listening!
Hooo. I hope it’s ok if I vent. I don’t think anyone else would really get this. I did my thesis this year on marginal groups and their effects on the mainstream (that is condensed a little!). This lead me to mra/pua spaces and as a result to this awesome website I’m commenting on right now.
To cut a long story mercifully short, I had a terribly bad break-up, partly to do with me bringing my work home with me. My family never recognised my five year relationship because she is Trans*. Nope, she was not my room-mate. Thanks Mom. I don’t know, this isn’t terribly coherent, I guess I just wanted to scream into the abyss!
Now go look at baby elephants, you deserve it.
Marie
11 years ago
@Tristan Gareth-Grey
All the interweb hugs that you want.
@theda bara
I didn’t understand all of what you wrote, but hugs for you too if you want them.
We Hunted The Mammoth
I have good links on the wage gap if you want em.
@Tristan: Hugs for you! And cuteness.
And it’s okay to check out and take a break, or even stop entirely if you want to.
@Tristan Gareth-Grey
I’m so sorry to hear that all of that bigoted anti-intellectual crap is disturbing you that much. Things like this can wear anyone down, really.
Here is a great collection of arguments that address misconceptions about the wage gap: http://amptoons.com/blog/category/the-wage-gap-series/
@sittiekitty
This is what the guy said –
“No one has shown me anything backing this up, about women getting paid less than men. Until someone shows me how scientific method resulting in this particular claim. I am going to have to say it is utter BS. And even if they do, I can think of a dozen reasons why the average pay of women is fairly less than men. A lot of those reasons include the disadvantage of children and single parenting, as well as generally more timidness.”
So basically it’s all the fault of women as to why we don’t make as much as men.
@Falconer
Thanks for the hugs. Unfortunately for me, it’s all shoved in my face every single day, even in my own home. So I can avoid it, even if I wanted to.
^^^^
***Can’t*** avoid it even if I wanted to.
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@AllyS
Thanks so much. It’s just an accumulative thing though, really. I was personally fighting against sexism in my life at 6 years old, over 30 years ago. I’m just really tired, & I don’t have the strength anymore.
Hugs, Tristan! And some pictures of two unlikely friends.
SittieKitty, I’d like those links.
@Tristan Gareth-Grey
I see what you mean. If you don’t mind me asking, do you have anyone to talk to in real life about the way you’re feeling? Or is everyone around you bigoted, anti-intellectual, etc?
Some more brain bleach if anyone needs it.
Sorry, Tristan. I’ve been feeling that same worn-down way too lately too. I’m fortunate not to have to deal with it in my home. Even if it’s not home, I hope you have somewhere you can go to clear your mind of this nastiness.
Is that unequal-pay denying asshole someone you even need to have this discussion with? Sounds like arguing with a brick wall. Which is wearing, for sure.
God, Tristan, that’s so shitty and I’m sorry I assumed you had someplace to retreat to.
@cloudiah: omigod that dog-cat-guinea pig-rabbit foursome is so awesomely cute I think I’m going to have a cuteurysm.
No, he isn’t someone I have to have that discussion with. I was in a certain forum where I’m a regular (it’s a cult recovery forum), I responded to something, & he responded back with that, & I’m going to ignore him. He isn’t worth responding to. I’m just angry about it. Oh, & in the same thread a gay guy (who’s posts I usually like) acted like a total MUA. I felt sick & angered. Despite the presence of other feminists there, I’m not going to post there anymore.
I meant MRA. So angry I’m getting my acronyms twisted around.
@Cloudiah
Thanks for the dog/rabbit/guinea pig/evil cat photo. & the other dog/evil cat photo as well. 🙂
(I’m being facetious regarding cats. I’m allergic to cats, & their personalities do not mesh well with mine.)
Ah, I’m glad ignoring unequal-wage denying immovable asshole is a viable option.
I want to thank everyone for listening to me. It really means a lot. 🙂
You’re welcome.
Tristan — as long as you like other critters I think the feline overlords will overlook your inability to pet them. I’m a fish person myself after all (not a fish-person, cuz I’m a carrot and a fish-carrot would be weird)
But of course, Tristan! Sorry I didn’t have any good advice, but here’s a dog with an iguana.
cloudiah,
http://www.jec.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=9118a9ef-0771-4777-9c1f-8232fe70a45c
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/02/05/171196714/the-jobs-with-the-biggest-and-smallest-pay-gaps-between-men-and-women
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1182859
I knew it – when dog cat rabbit hamster combination was mentioned, it was odds-on it’d be Sharky the pit bull and Max-Arthur the roomba-riding shark cat and some of their friends. 🙂
Tristan, adding my sympathy and wishing I had something practical to suggest. All I can say is, vent here, we’re listening!
Meanwhile, have a malamute pup.
http://youtu.be/1-O_lFm-mBg
Hooo. I hope it’s ok if I vent. I don’t think anyone else would really get this. I did my thesis this year on marginal groups and their effects on the mainstream (that is condensed a little!). This lead me to mra/pua spaces and as a result to this awesome website I’m commenting on right now.
To cut a long story mercifully short, I had a terribly bad break-up, partly to do with me bringing my work home with me. My family never recognised my five year relationship because she is Trans*. Nope, she was not my room-mate. Thanks Mom. I don’t know, this isn’t terribly coherent, I guess I just wanted to scream into the abyss!
Now go look at baby elephants, you deserve it.
@Tristan Gareth-Grey
All the interweb hugs that you want.
@theda bara
I didn’t understand all of what you wrote, but hugs for you too if you want them.
Theda, oh that’s the worst, when people pretend you’re just roommates. Sorry!
@SittieKitty, Thanks! There’s good stuff here too: http://echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com/search?q=wage+gap
(And now I’ve added your links to Zotero so I can find them again.)
Theda Bara, you’ve broken up? That’s horrible, and then your family on top of that …
All the hugs plus a cuppa-of-your-choice from the Sir and me!