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Roosh pal: Attack on Pax Dickinson is “like a gang of angry, deformed and diseased street cripples overcoming a confident and successful alpha male.”

Roosh: A baby Hitler for the Internet age?
Roosh: A baby Hitler for the Internet age?

So I want to move on from the whole Pax Dickinson thing, but I feel I would be remiss to do so without first mentioning a remarkable post on Roosh’s Return of King blog with the seemingly innocuous title Pax Dickinson And The Culture Of Tolerance. Written by a Roosh forum regular who goes by the name scorpion (nice), the post is ostensibly a critique of alleged “cultural Marxists” whom, he charges, “claim to be tolerant of everything [yet] are … intolerant of traditional masculine behavior … .”

But his post is in fact a plea for intolerance so over the top that, save for some manosphere-specific jargon, and its focus on “feminists, white knights, manginas, fat acceptance activists and homosexuals” rather than, you know, Jews, it might as well have come straight from the pages of Hitler’s Mein Kampf.

I know, I know. Godwin. But just read this shit. Scorpion accuses the “politically correct internet hit squad” of

encouraging and mainstreaming the most bizarre and marginal human behaviors in a perverse quest to prove themselves the most tolerant of all their peers. …

What this is, really, is the elevation of the deranged and deformed along with the simultaneous tearing down of the strong and traditional. They are threatened by the sight of a masculine, red pill man like Pax Dickinson who unapologetically speaks his mind without fear of offending anyone. … Every time they see him they are acutely conscious of their own inferiority, so they conspire to end him. It’s like a gang of angry, deformed and diseased street cripples overcoming a confident and successful alpha male.

Yeah, not so much.

It’s here that Scorpion really begins to channel old Mr. Hitler.

These people don’t understand that by tolerating every type of degenerate behavior, they are destroying the culture. Imagine what would happen if your immune system suddenly became tolerant of everything. Within days or weeks your body would become host to dozens of infections and viruses, and you would quickly die. That’s exactly what these people are doing to our culture. … And so the body of the West has become filled with disease.

That. my friends, is Fascism.

Naturally, Scorpion predicts that these nasty “cultural Marxists” will get what’s coming to them in the end:

A backlash against these people is starting to build. … Within a few decades will come a rebirth of more traditional values, and these cultural Marxist social justice warriors will become nothing more than a relic of an ignominious era in our history. … Our descendents will be unable to comprehend how such an absurd ideology was able to take root in society. It will be as incomprehensible and perverse to them as the idea of suddenly chopping off their own body parts (which is fittingly a practice esteemed by the social justice warriors under the guise of “transgenderism”).

Is there some sort of new requirement that every article on Return of Kings contain transphobia?

These fools think they have found the one true god, but in reality they are simply a cult of death and decay. They are the patron saints of the sick and the twisted, the degenerate and the deformed. … It’s too late to save the West as we currently know it; but like a Phoenix, a new Western culture will rise from the ashes, a culture with traditional values and a healthy immune system to protect itself against degenerate cultural scum. And it won’t soon tolerate these worshippers of tolerance.

Yes, that’s right, a gang of Don Juan wannabes on an internet forum, united around a skeezy sex tourist and self-professed date rapist, have managed to convince themselves that they are the last bastions of traditional morality in a world gone wrong.

In the wake of Roosh’s viciously racist attacks on the critics of Dickinson, and his publishing of what is essentially a fascist tantrum, I think it’s fair to say that he has thrown his lot in entirely with the racist right wing of the manosphere, alongside such other charming fellows as Heartiste and Jack Donovan and Matt Forney. Indeed, in some ways he’s even outdoing them in the hate department. (Donovan in particular is a lot more affable about his racism.)

It’s a weird choice on Roosh’s part, because the hardest-core white supremacists out there have made very clear that they don’t see him as one of them. Because he’s of Persian descent, and therefore, in their minds, not really white. Indeed, several years back, one regular on the notorious Stormfront forums posted a “warning to Estonian women” that

[a] really nasty sex tourist from America (of Middle Eastern descent) has arrived in Tartu, Estonia. He came from Latvia after staying there a month or two. His goal is to lure into sex as many Estonian women as possible, especially very young girls. His name is Daryush Valizedeh, nickname – Roosh, and he is a pick up artist who believes women should be treated “like garbage”. This includes beautiful, young white women of Baltic and Nordic descent.

The Stormfronters tracked him as he made his way around Eastern Europe; one suggested he was not only not white but that he was literally part Neanderthal.

Roosh and the neo-Nazis: sounds like a match made in heaven.

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Crip Dyke
Crip Dyke
11 years ago

If you say that something rises from its own ashes…we’ve got it.

If you have to say, “Like a phoenix…X (is rising/will rise) from its own ashes” you are either as bad at creating metaphor as Horatius was at self-advocacy, or your audience is under 9 years old.

lightcastle
lightcastle
11 years ago

I think the 14 point list is the Ur-fascism essay from Umberto Eco, isn’t it?

lightcastle
lightcastle
11 years ago

@ David – isn’t that neanderthal guy the one who woke up to his super Neanderthal powers when he had an accident with lye as a kid or something? His site is called the vault or some such?

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

I’d be interested in that list; ‘fascism’ is one of those terms I’ve seen thrown around a lot but am still not entirely clear on exactly what it means.

Malte
11 years ago

LBT, it’s “14 Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt”. But Roger Griffin’s definition is better (“Fascism is a political ideology whose mythic core in its various permutations is a palingenetic form of populist ultra-nationalism”).

lightcastle
lightcastle
11 years ago

LBT, Eco’s list is here. http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html

There are lots of definitions, though.

Falconer
11 years ago

@lightcastle: wut.

@LBT: Here’s Dave Neiwert on the rise of fascism in the US. Lengthy, but thorough.

katz
11 years ago

Dammit, now I have to post Be Prepared again.

Fun fact: The specific image of a new, traditional-values culture rising Phoenix-like from the ashes of the old one is a key tenet–maybe even the base tenet–of fascism. There’s even a word for it: Palingenesis.

Bonelady
Bonelady
11 years ago

I’m an anthropologist, and I’ve got to know –in what way are Neanderthals superior to H sapiens? I mean really, if they were all that superior, why are they extinct? Or did I get that backwards?

Bob Dole
Bob Dole
11 years ago

I love it when these types bring up the immune system argument, because they completely forget how what they advocate resembles allergies.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Just as long as palingenesis doesn’t mean we all turn into ex-governors of Alaska, that’s all. There’s scary and there’s really scary.

Alice Sanguinaria
Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

@La Strega (I assumed that this promised project would be his own personal “Mein Kamf.” In fact, it inspired me to sit down and read the original “Mein Kamf,” but God help me, it’s so turgid and boring I can’t force myself through it.)

From what I’ve heard from my APUSH history teacher, the only reason Mein Kamf exists is because Hitler could not and would not shut up in prison, so the prison guards gave him a typewriter, and out came the book.

Honestly, this does explain a lot. If you think about it, Hitler and Roosh are similar. 1) Their ideology are terrible, 2) they hate a certain group more than the rest, and 3) they don’t know how to shut up.

Then again, if Roosh (and other MRAs) knew when to shut up before they said something idiotic, Manboobz wouldn’t exist. So there is that.

lightcastle
lightcastle
11 years ago

@kittieserf – nice.

@Falconer: Yup, I’m remembering properly.
http://vault-co.blogspot.ca/2010/11/who-were-nephilim.html
I forgot he’s also the Nephilim.

“Who Were The Nephilim?
They were Neanderthals, of course. I’m a Neanderthal even though I was born human. The accident with sodium lye when I was 18 months old changed me into something else.”

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: Malte

palingenetic form of populist ultra-nationalism

…ooookay, what does THAT mean?

RE: Bonelady

I’m an anthropologist, and I’ve got to know –in what way are Neanderthals superior to H sapiens?

*snrk* I honestly think it’s a form of racist flip-flopping. People assumed black folk had a ‘more primitive’ species shit in them… and then scientists found out Neanderthals were pale-skinned and fair-haired. Cue the racist flipflop so that now NEANDERTHALS are superior. That’s my theory, anyway.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Alice Sanguinaria – hi, welcome, are you new? Have you had a Welcome Package yet?

Love your little kitty avatar. 🙂

There’s another (trivial) thing Roosh has in common with Hitler: chronic bad hair days and dubious personal styling.

hometeampaper
hometeampaper
11 years ago

Fuck transphobia, seriously.

I know this is only tangentially related, but I was angry before I read this and really nothing from Roosh and co surprises me anymore.

Alice Sanguinaria
Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

@kittehserf – Yep. Hi Manboobz community! *waves hi*

No, I haven’t gotten the package yet, but I have now. 🙂

Found out about the existence of this blog a few days ago, and I’ve been reading the archives. SO MUCH MISOGYNY. OH MY GODS.

Thanks. I found it on Facebook – when it was posted on I Fucking Love Science, it was called the “Bill Nye” cat. And because David loves cats… 😛

That just cements the similarities between the two further. All we need now is to give Roosh a position of power over a poor, unlucky country, and we’re utterly screwed*.

* = Do not actually do this, unless you’re sending Roosh and people like him on their own colony on Venus. Not Mars, because Mars is awesome and we decent humans might want to go there someday and establish colonies and whatnot.

lightcastle
lightcastle
11 years ago

@LBT – I think his first book was basically a long explanation of what he meant by that one-sentence description. (And palingenetic is basically “apocalyptic cultural rebirth” with less religious overtones.

And the Texas Arcane guy links to this article explaining Neanderthal superiority. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/garret-loporto/surprising-way-your-neand_b_568455.html

A quick look on his site also seems to imply that people with Aspergers are Neanderthals and superior in some way. Most humans are a slave race genetically engineered by a group called the Melonheads? (I think they were the Ga’ould maybe? God-kings who built pyramids which are actually super high-tech?)

But yeah, “saps” (that’s homo-sapiens) are really good at social connection and being fake and stupid stuff like that, while neanderthals are physically and mentally superior, but loners, so they spend all their time coding and being assholes or something.

So if you are an angry, misunderstood genius, you are probably neanderthal. Also, Darwin was wrong, and the bible is usually right. Or something.

Lurkerina
Lurkerina
11 years ago

@Bonelady

You might know more on the subject then I, but according to my reading (untrained, I have no scientific background whatsoever), the Neanderthals were much more physically robust, were able to heal from injuries quicker, and able to hunt large game better. But they weren’t very adaptable and there is some speculation that their brains were more dedicated to functions such as sight, and so less suited for higher cognitive functions (not that they were incapable of speech or anything like that).

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
11 years ago

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a Rasputin hairstyle and carrying a poorly written sex tourism ebook.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Skullpants – yes, but will it be played by Christopher Lee or Tom Baker? Enquiring minds want to know.

Alice Sanguinaria – I did that too, when I found MB. Those long screeds from NWO & co, oy …

Sending Roosh and his ilk to Venus sounds like an excellent plan to me.

Lurkerina
Lurkerina
11 years ago

More on topic, any time someone describes behavior as degenerate, red flags shoot up like fireworks. I automatically suspect the speaker to be a right-wing, entitled, bigoted asshat of the first order.

Also, hi everyone! I’ve been reading for at least a year so I feel like I know you all, but as my nym indicates, I only come out to play every once in awhile.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Isn’t “degenerate” a pretty accurate description of the lifestyle that PUAs aspire to?

katz
11 years ago

Just as long as palingenesis doesn’t mean we all turn into ex-governors of Alaska, that’s all. There’s scary and there’s really scary.

I know, right?

Alice Sanguinaria
Alice Sanguinaria
11 years ago

@kittehserf – oh my gods. I saw and read the entire NWOslave Book. I felt like my brains were melting out of my skull and pooling on the floor. He’s so wrong that he’s not even wrong anymore.

Someone should start a Kickstarter. “Project: build a rocket ship so that Roony &co can hop on to their one way trip to Venus.” *nod*