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Heartiste: Hitler was a bitter Beta Male who wouldn’t have started WW2 if he’d read my pickup artist blog

But I'm a Nice Guy! Why won't she date me?
But I’m a Nice Guy! Why won’t she date me?

Some people dream of going back in a time machine and strangling baby Hitler in his crib, thus preventing World War II, the Holocaust, any number of stupid memes. Our dear friend Heartiste  — the repellent right-wing pickup guru — dreams instead of delivering the incredibly wussy teenage Hitler his own Sixteen Commandments of Poon, thus saving young Adolph from the horrors of Betahood and perhaps also preventing World War II, etc.

Heartiste, who evidently gets his news from seven-year-old stories in the Daily Mail, has been reading about a not-so-new book that tells the story of teenage Hitler’s unrequited crush on a girl named Stefanie Isak. To hear the Daily Mail tell it, Hitler was quite the beta simp, watching from a distance in fury as  alpha male army officers charmed (and won over) the young lass. Heartiste is driven to comment:

Hitler the bitterboy beta. Instead of learning from his alpha male betters, he lashed out at them, much the same way our modern manboobs lash out at alpha male “douchebags” and “players”.

Thanks for the mention, douchebag!

Anyhoo, so young Hitler wrote the girl poems, stalked her, contemplated kidnapping her, and considered a murder-suicide backup plan in case the kidnapping didn’t work out — you know, all your typical nice guy stuff. What he never did was talk to her.

Poor Hitler! That’s what “One-itis” can do to you!

Heartiste wonders what Hitler might have been able to accomplish if he’s been able to read the Chateau Heartiste blog on his early-20th century iPad.

As you can see, even maniacal dictators with dreams of world conquest can fall into the same horrible beta traps as your typical weepy 21st century brooding teen boy with xVideos tabbed for convenience. If only Hitler had the compiled wisdom of CH, he would remember the maxim that you do not reward a woman with your love until after she has rewarded you with her sex.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure you don’t need Heartiste or any misogynist douchebag to tell you it’s not a great idea to fall in love with a girl that you not only haven’t had sex with but whom you haven’t even spoken to.

But Heartiste is caught up in his own fantasies at this point:

[A] part of me feels not just pity, but even tender admiration, for young Hitler’s romantic idealism, so pure of thought and intention. This was a Hitler, however misguided, who denied a cynical world its tribute in parcels of his uncorrupted soul. How might things have turned out differently had a strong male presence — an alpha male mentor — shown him the way to fulfill his burning desire? Or at least told him to stop acting like a tool.

If only Hitler had known how to neg!

One of the stranger aspects of Hitler’s unrequited love affair is that the target of his obsessions had a Jewish last name. She wasn’t in fact Jewish, but (according to the Daily Mail account) Hitler didn’t know that at the time. The Daily Mail suggests that this could mean that his later anti-Semitism wasn’t genuine, but was instead cooked up for political reasons. (Yeah, fat chance.)

Heartiste has a different theory.

[P]erhaps … Hitler became the man he did when, as a young man in the grip of hot unrequited love, his Jewish princess “rejected” him for the charming alpha males Hitler despised. What followed from that irreparable wound to his heart was an act of id vengeance that would set fire to the world. Was WWI then, the revenge of a beta male scorned?

I believe you mean WWII. Do try to get your World Wars straight.

Chateau Heartiste has written that game can save the West. Disbelievers scoff. But if this outpost of sanity had been around during Hitler’s flowering youth to enlighten him about the nature of the fairer sex, the West might very well have been saved. Saved not just from war and genocide, but from every evil — cultural Marxism, feminism, equalism, and now racial self-annihilationism — that has come after.

I guess it’s not surprising, really, that Heartiste is egotistical enough to think that his blog could have prevented World War I, er II.

What is surprising is that Heartiste would have wanted to get in the way of Hitler’s campaign of hate and war. Heartiste, after all, is an increasingly open far-right racist, who in a recent post blamed American “emasculization” on the “[l]ack of a cleansing war.” (Really, because it seems to me that we ARE at war, and just got out of another war, and I don’t know if you saw this in the news or anything, but we’ve got some military strikes on Syria penciled in for later this week.) And if you go through Heartiste’s comments section you will certainly find plenty of people who don’t think Hitler needed any excuse to hate Jews — because they’re just so inherently hateable!

Hitler and Heartiste, two terrible tastes that taste disgusting together.

EDIT: Oh, by the way, the Blue Pill subreddit is totally on this whole Hitler as pickup artist thing. Here’s the original discussion, a spinoff discussion in r/badhistory, and a picture of PUA Hitler trying a little kino escalation (from here).

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AK
AK
11 years ago

From the bluepill subreddit “Hitler was a MGTOW and his way was through Poland”… I can’t stop laughing. I really needed that. I am having the worst day!

Between that and PUA Hitler, I can’t stop laughing. I think this is the first time that talking about Nazis has actually improved my day.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Finally got the video to work, and it is a masterpiece!

Alice
Alice
11 years ago

“Gosh, what pressure. Put out for the likes of Hitler, ladies, or else you’ll cause genocide!”

I’ve seen this come up A LOT in the manosphere. Basically whenever there is a James Holmes or Anders Brevik it is the fault of women because we wouldn’t put out to them. Scratch a killer and you’ll find a nice guy who couldn’t get laid.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
11 years ago

Holy shit, Bodsy. Especially the last couple lines. Legendary.

Dredd
Dredd
11 years ago

“How might things have turned out differently had a strong male presence — an alpha male mentor — shown him the way to fulfill his burning desire?”

This sounds like the start of some slash fiction.

cloudiah
11 years ago

On= a happier front, anyone who is having a bad day MUST CLICK HERE. Might be the cutest guinea pig picture ever.

kittehserf
11 years ago

OT question: is anyone who reads Pharyngula familiar with a troll called Owlglass? It’s prolly the nym, but he’s reminding me of NWO. He writes better (wouldn’t be difficult) but the tone of his crap and calling regulars there “notorious liars” and such seems very Slavey.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
11 years ago

Thank you, folks!

WeeBoy
WeeBoy
11 years ago

@Cloudiah

Omg that guinea pig. So majestic.

Michael Søndberg Olsen

Just woke up from way too little sleep. The video and the guinea pig have made my morning. As for Heartiste… I can’t angry and I can’t laugh either. I can just stare and shake my head at the Triumph des Pua. I mean, what in the unholy moly?

guffaw-ferrets
guffaw-ferrets
11 years ago

I had one of the worst days of recent memory today, in fact, and Kino-Escalating PUA Hitler genuinely made it better. Sometimes when you stare into the abyss and the abyss stares back, you just gotta laugh.

Warren
Warren
11 years ago

“Daily Mail suggests that this could mean that his later anti-Semitism wasn’t genuine”

The Daily Mail is also known as “Fascism in oven gloves”. Depressingly it is one of the UK’s most popular newspapers.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
11 years ago

Myoo: I think Heartiste is trying to express the view that Hitler’s ideas were basically right, but he took them way too far, and when his scheme crashed, there was massive cultural backlash that’s now crippling Western society.

Downfall: That was awesome.

Cloudiah: Looks like any other guinea pig to me. I guess they’re all off the scale on my cuteometer.

Kittenserf: That Heartiste’s mention of “cultural marxism” totally reminded me of NWO in his “MARXIST CRITICAL THEORY” phase.

kittehserf
11 years ago

guffaw-ferrets – internet hugs! If you wanna vent, drop me an email.

The average Stoic Sophist of today
The average Stoic Sophist of today
11 years ago

Jesus, those comments. I feel dirty just from reading them. Chateau Heartiste is move of an effing cesspool than I had imagined.

mildlymagnificent
11 years ago

is anyone who reads Pharyngula familiar with a troll called Owlglass?

Yup. Turns up from time to time, never does any better than the usual crap, never learns.

Hadn’t thought of NWO. It’d be nice to think they’re the same person. One less shithead in the world – but I’m not optimistic, there seems to be a never-ending supply of these lowlifes.

dsfrogs
dsfrogs
11 years ago

It’s interesting that they have this twisted logic of “Jews were persecuted for centuries in many different places —> they must have done something to deserve it”. It’s similar to how they think about women who survived abuse.
Also, what is it with spelling words wrong deliberately? Do they think that if they spell it ‘Joos’ or ‘Wymen’ it makes the people they’re talking about less human? Are they really that stupid?

pod
pod
11 years ago

‘The Daily Mail suggests that this could mean that his later anti-Semitism wasn’t genuine, but was instead cooked up for political reasons. (Yeah, fat chance.)’
By all accounts, Hitler got along just fine with Jews in Vienna and during WWI.
During the German revolution of 1918, he was a loyal soldier of the Bavarian Soviet Republic. There’s a photo of him taking part in the funeral procession of Kurt Eisner, the assassinated Jewish leader of that republic. (Source: ‘Warum die Deutschen? Warum die Juden?’, by Götz Aly)
The anti-Semitism (and a rewriting of his past to match it) came later. Could be genuine, though. People change, not always for the better.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
11 years ago

So, I hear about Hitler’s youthful stalking/kidnapping/murder fantasies and think that confirms that this guy was a piece of shit right down to his core, and always was. A PUA hears about it and sympathizes with him. Seriously, these misogynist assholes will forgive a man anything….even Hitler!! Godwin’s Law just can’t even begin to cover this one.

Wetherby
Wetherby
11 years ago

The Daily Mail is also known as “Fascism in oven gloves”. Depressingly it is one of the UK’s most popular newspapers.

The Daily Mail was openly capital-F Fascist in the 1930s, and very keen on Hitler. Granted, they’ve had a complete staff turnover since then, but old corporate habits seem to die hard on occasion.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

It’s kind of a reverse Godwin. Normally people are all “X is as bad as Hitler!”, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone try to frame the 20th century’s most famous genocidal politician as a misunderstood Nice Guy before.

SredniVashtar
SredniVashtar
11 years ago

@dsfrogs: the spellings…ah the spellings. I think I know the reason. the ‘Joos’ spelling is supposed to parody the imagined voice of the beta/female leftoid fool who they’re arguing with. A lot of manosphere sites do this: like, rather than write ‘women want a relationship that makes them happy’ they write ‘women today want a relationship that makes them haaaaaappy’. It’s supposed to make the other person seem frivolous and screeching.

The ‘womyn’ thing is to make fun of feminists, because apparently we don’t use the word ‘women’ because it contains the word ‘men’, and we totally hate the men. or something.

See also Heartiste’s latest, which bemoans advances in mental health care, which make women that would otherwise have been ‘vulnerable’ due to depression less game-able. I am not even exagerrating a little bit. http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/08/27/are-antidepressants-ruining-american-women/

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
11 years ago

If only Captain Von Trapp had owned a fedora, Austria would have been “friendzoned”.

czerni
11 years ago

So..this was before or after he was rejected twice from the arts gallery and then became homeless when his mum died and couldn’t support him anymore?
Yeah, betamale seems flattering, but nice hypothesis anyway.