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Roosh V forum members baffled that fat woman doesn’t welcome sexual harassment

Online dating: It doesn't always work like this.
Online dating: It doesn’t always work like this.

For a certain subset of horrible men, there are few things more infuriating than the fact that women they find undesirable can turn down men for sex. For this upsets their primitive sense of justice: such women should be so grateful for any male attention, these men think, that turning down even the most boorish of men shouldn’t even be an option for them.

Consider the reactions of some of the regulars on date-rapey pickup guru Roosh V’s forum to the story of Josh and Mary on the dating site Plenty of Fish. One fine December evening, you see, Josh decided to try a little “direct game” on Mary.

That’s what the fellas on Roosh’s forum call it, anyway. The rest of us would call it sexual harassment.

Josh started off by asking Mary if she “wanted to be fuck buddies.” She said “nope,” and the conversation went downhill from there, with Josh sending a series of increasingly explicit comments to Mary, despite getting nothing but negative replies from her.

After eight messages from Josh, with the last one suggesting he would pay her $50 to “come over right now and swallow my load,” Mary turned the tables, noting that she’d been able to deduce his real identity from his PoF profile, and asking him if he wanted her to send screenshots of the chat to his mother and grandmother. He begged her not to.

As you may have already figured out, from the fact that we’re talking about this story in public, Mary did indeed pass along the screenshots, and posted them online.

Poetic justice? Not to the fellas on Roosh’s forum. Because, you see, Mary is … a fat chick.

While dismissing Josh as a “chode” with “atrocious game,” Scorpion saved most of his anger for the harassed woman:

Look how much she relishes not only shooting him down, but damaging his reputation with his own family. She’s positively intoxicated with her power. Simply spitting bad direct game is enough to unleash her vindictive fury.

“Bad direct game.” I’m pretty sure even Clarence Thomas would consider what Josh did sexual harassment.

At any point, she could have pressed a single button and blocked the man from communicating with her, but she didn’t. She didn’t because she enjoys the feeling of power she gets from receiving attention from guys like this and then brutally shooting them down. It makes her feel much hotter and more desirable than she actually is in real life. She’s not there to meet men; she’s there to virtually castrate them for her own amusement.

I’m guessing here, but I’m pretty sure that nowhere in Mary’s profile did she encourage the men of PoF to send her explicit sexual propositions out of the blue. And I’m pretty sure she didn’t hold a gun to Josh’s head and force him to send a half-dozen sexually explicit harassing messages to a woman he didn’t know.

Athlone McGinnis also relies heavily on euphemism when describing Josh’s appalling behavior:

I don’t think its primarily the revenge she’s after, its the validation. She is enjoying the power she has over this guy and wielding it brutally because it shows she can maintain standards despite her weight and the doubtless numerous confidence issues that stem from it. In blowing up this guy for being too direct in his evaluation of her sexuality, she affirms the value of her own sexuality.

Oh, so he was just being “direct in his evaluation of her sexuality.”

In short: “I am wanted, but I have standards and can choose. I have so much agency despite my weight that I can go as far as to punish those who approach me in a way I do not like rather than simply blocking them. I’m teaching them a lesson, because I’m valuable enough to provide such lessons.

So apparently in Mr. McGinnis’ world women who are fat aren’t supposed to have agency? They’re not supposed to be able to choose? They’re supposed to drop their panties to any guy who offers to be their fuck buddy or tells them to “suck my dick?”

Also, I’m a victim bravely standing up against online bullying/harassment-look at me!”

Yeah, actually, she is. Get used to it, guys, because you’re going to see a lot more of this in the future.

This isn’t just a laughing matter for her. She needs to be able to do this in order to feel worthwhile. She has to be able to show that even she is able to maintain standards and doesn’t have to settle for just any old guy asking for any old sexual favor simply because she resembles a beached manatee.

And it’s not a laughing matter for you either, is it? You’re actually angry that a woman said no to a sexual harasser — because you don’t find her attractive.  And because Josh — from his picture, a conventionally attractive, non-fat fellow — did.

Mr. McGinnis, may a fat person sit on your dreams, and crush them.

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katz
11 years ago

Really doesn’t matter who he is; socking is a no-no, and creating a new handle just to get away from the repercussions of prior bad behavior is particularly odious. Off you go to troll heaven.

kittehserf
11 years ago

I’ve emailed the Dark Lord. Whether this sock’s Mr Al or not, it’s time for moderation or the banhammer, I think. Possibly two.

@Argenti – virtual hugs to fellow Dicky Knee sufferer.

katz
11 years ago

Anyway might as well throw us a bone and link us to your last brave crusade against cyberbullying, since no one gives a shit enough to look it up. Also, we’re all going to just assume you’re Mr. Al anyway, since you’re acting just like him.

Alex
11 years ago

I am curious as to who it is, so I hope David will let us know once he bans this fool. He claimed to have defended someone in the past. Maybe one of Ruby’s defenders?

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: katz

I assumed Boggles, myself.

RE: misery

I MEANT the apology to David. Why on earth would you be apologizing to ME?

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: Argenti

Anyone want some feral algae?

There’s any other kind?

Ally S
11 years ago

Reading this whole shitfest with misery and AnonGuy while under the influence is really fucking awful

and that’s saying a lot

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Did Ruby have defenders?

Could be Boggles, could be that Nathan kid. Whoever it is, they suck.

hippodameia8527
hippodameia8527
11 years ago

Maybe Kave or Kavette?

Alex
11 years ago

I know some people thought we being too mean to her.

AnonymousGuy
AnonymousGuy
11 years ago

Well, perhaps it does constitute sockpuppetting. I thought it over quite a bit at the time and decided it was acceptable, given the circumstances. As I’ve stipulated, it’s Dave’s call to make. I can’t actually find the original thread that had my last post in it; not sure if Google’s archives of these comment threads are comprehensive. I’m using the same email address as it was never my intention to deceive Dave, only to be able to post without being subjected to bullying. Now that I’m out of the closet though I might as well reveal (sans drumroll) – I’m RaulGroom.

hippodameia8527
hippodameia8527
11 years ago

“Well, perhaps it does constitute sockpuppetting.”

You think?

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: AnonymousGuy

Well, perhaps it does constitute sockpuppetting. I thought it over quite a bit at the time and decided it was acceptable, given the circumstances.

You don’t make the rules here, buddy. David does. If you wanted to see if your sockpuppeting was acceptable, the appropriate thing would’ve been to ASK David first, not walk in and pretend nothing ever happened.

kittehserf
11 years ago

I love the way they descend to trolldom and then it’s all “It’s Dave’s call!”

Ally – ::sends virtual chocolate::

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Raul who?

Alex
11 years ago

Hm. Must have come and gone during one of my times away from this site. I’ve never heard of you.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

This jerk is under the impression he’s memorable. Not even in the top 10. Pathetic.

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

**shrug**

Ally S
11 years ago

Wow, that article AG linked to is just fucking awful.

TW for rape:

For example, women who
resist and escape attacks are often described in media articles as
victims, erasing their own self-defense (Hollander, 2002).

Oh, fuck off. Attempted rape victims are victims too.

kittehserf
11 years ago

I’ve read lots of old threads and that name doesn’t ring any bells. There was a Raoul who used a b/w photo of a cat.

Alex
11 years ago
Alex
11 years ago

@Ally, exactly. As my therapist put it, just because the rape wasn’t completed doesn’t mean the attack didn’t happen.

hippodameia8527
hippodameia8527
11 years ago

Forgettable as an “ally” and an adversary – but that’s not an accomplishment.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Forgettable as an “ally” and an adversary – but that’s not an accomplishment.

You mean he can’t wear it as a badge of pride?

AnonymousGuy
AnonymousGuy
11 years ago

Ah, yes, that must have been an autofill thing as I wasn’t posting as RaulGroom anymore intentionally at that point. I may have mixed more than once for that reason, but wasn’t aware of it.

I wasn’t implying I was “memorable” but indeed the attacks were memorable to me, as is this experience which is quite healing and empowering.

In any case you can see from the avatar that the underlying email address is the same.

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