For a certain subset of horrible men, there are few things more infuriating than the fact that women they find undesirable can turn down men for sex. For this upsets their primitive sense of justice: such women should be so grateful for any male attention, these men think, that turning down even the most boorish of men shouldn’t even be an option for them.
Consider the reactions of some of the regulars on date-rapey pickup guru Roosh V’s forum to the story of Josh and Mary on the dating site Plenty of Fish. One fine December evening, you see, Josh decided to try a little “direct game” on Mary.
That’s what the fellas on Roosh’s forum call it, anyway. The rest of us would call it sexual harassment.
Josh started off by asking Mary if she “wanted to be fuck buddies.” She said “nope,” and the conversation went downhill from there, with Josh sending a series of increasingly explicit comments to Mary, despite getting nothing but negative replies from her.
After eight messages from Josh, with the last one suggesting he would pay her $50 to “come over right now and swallow my load,” Mary turned the tables, noting that she’d been able to deduce his real identity from his PoF profile, and asking him if he wanted her to send screenshots of the chat to his mother and grandmother. He begged her not to.
As you may have already figured out, from the fact that we’re talking about this story in public, Mary did indeed pass along the screenshots, and posted them online.
Poetic justice? Not to the fellas on Roosh’s forum. Because, you see, Mary is … a fat chick.
While dismissing Josh as a “chode” with “atrocious game,” Scorpion saved most of his anger for the harassed woman:
Look how much she relishes not only shooting him down, but damaging his reputation with his own family. She’s positively intoxicated with her power. Simply spitting bad direct game is enough to unleash her vindictive fury.
“Bad direct game.” I’m pretty sure even Clarence Thomas would consider what Josh did sexual harassment.
At any point, she could have pressed a single button and blocked the man from communicating with her, but she didn’t. She didn’t because she enjoys the feeling of power she gets from receiving attention from guys like this and then brutally shooting them down. It makes her feel much hotter and more desirable than she actually is in real life. She’s not there to meet men; she’s there to virtually castrate them for her own amusement.
I’m guessing here, but I’m pretty sure that nowhere in Mary’s profile did she encourage the men of PoF to send her explicit sexual propositions out of the blue. And I’m pretty sure she didn’t hold a gun to Josh’s head and force him to send a half-dozen sexually explicit harassing messages to a woman he didn’t know.
Athlone McGinnis also relies heavily on euphemism when describing Josh’s appalling behavior:
I don’t think its primarily the revenge she’s after, its the validation. She is enjoying the power she has over this guy and wielding it brutally because it shows she can maintain standards despite her weight and the doubtless numerous confidence issues that stem from it. In blowing up this guy for being too direct in his evaluation of her sexuality, she affirms the value of her own sexuality.
Oh, so he was just being “direct in his evaluation of her sexuality.”
In short: “I am wanted, but I have standards and can choose. I have so much agency despite my weight that I can go as far as to punish those who approach me in a way I do not like rather than simply blocking them. I’m teaching them a lesson, because I’m valuable enough to provide such lessons.
So apparently in Mr. McGinnis’ world women who are fat aren’t supposed to have agency? They’re not supposed to be able to choose? They’re supposed to drop their panties to any guy who offers to be their fuck buddy or tells them to “suck my dick?”
Also, I’m a victim bravely standing up against online bullying/harassment-look at me!”
Yeah, actually, she is. Get used to it, guys, because you’re going to see a lot more of this in the future.
This isn’t just a laughing matter for her. She needs to be able to do this in order to feel worthwhile. She has to be able to show that even she is able to maintain standards and doesn’t have to settle for just any old guy asking for any old sexual favor simply because she resembles a beached manatee.
And it’s not a laughing matter for you either, is it? You’re actually angry that a woman said no to a sexual harasser — because you don’t find her attractive. And because Josh — from his picture, a conventionally attractive, non-fat fellow — did.
Mr. McGinnis, may a fat person sit on your dreams, and crush them.
RE: Michael
The link’ll just stay up; I generally don’t take down the buttons, and Hurt/Comfort Bingo is a much looser thing than my writeathons. So no need to feel time pressure!
RE: YoullNever Guess
I’m with Michael. That sounds DELICIOUS.
Now I’m wanting ice-cream, and it’s winter here!
The Mr. and I just went to the 7-11 for ice cream bars. Then again, it’s 10:30 and STILL 86F out. Only a few more weeks of TX summer, I just keep telling myself that. At least the humidity has backed off, nothing like feeling you’ve been hit with a warm, wet towel when you set foot outside.
86F – 30C – ewww, that late at night!
“nothing like feeling you’ve been hit with a warm, wet towel when you set foot outside.”
ancient memories of Miami surface…. eek.
Yeah, humid heat’s even worse than dry heat. Only good thing about it is it makes my hair curl more, but that doesn’t outweigh the urrghness of it generally.
Gah, only a few weeks till spring. GO AWAY WARM WEATHER
Man, now I want to go out and buy some peaches and make a dessert with them.
Also, if “Uriah” knew anything about the prophets, he wouldn’t want to be one. They had incredibly sad and frustrating lives.
Maybe Mr Al misspelled his latest nym and it was meant to be Urea. It’d suit his pissant little self better.
Plus, I can’t imagine a whale bothering to swallow him. It’d barf him up again straight away.
I’m so happy to be going to Alanya, Turkey soon. Dry heat, oranges, and swimming…
@kittehserf- on this half of the planet, this summer was so weird I didn’t even know what to do. When it wasn’t 100 degrees it was raining. I am SOOOOOO looking forward to fall.
“Maybe Mr Al misspelled his latest nym and it was meant to be Urea. It’d suit his pissant little self better. Plus, I can’t imagine a whale bothering to swallow him. It’d barf him up again straight away.”
But I’ll miss out on laughing my ass out.
Well, off.
Michael – out, off, either can be messy! 😀
What takes you to Turkey, if you don’t mind my asking? Work? Holiday? Sounds lovely.
M Dubz – we had a proper winter for the first time in ages; seriously cold (by our standards) and with plenty of rain. I’m not looking forward to summer at all, though. I never do, but with weather getting more extreme, it’s a worry.
Plus we hardly had any autumn this year. RAAAGE!
Oh, holiday. Been to Alanya so many times I have friends and favorite hangouts there. It’s a really, really touristy town, though. But beneath that it does have plenty of great charms.
Michael the cabbage meets YoullNeverGuess’s freeze peach ice cream…do I need more sleep // more coffee, or does that sound like one of those summer comedy flicks that always seem to do better than they should?
And, except for a week~ of 90°F+ weather, it’s been altogether too nice here. Like, high just barely over 80 for most of August. I should be pleased, but after Nemo, I am not. Has that foreboding “oh shit what’s winter going to do?” going on.
*distributes comfortable weather to fellow ‘boobzers*
I think whatever you might need, sweet Argenti, it does NOT include caffeine.
Sounds like a great break, Michael. 🙂
@Argenti- Yes. I am very nervous about winter. This past one was a disaster, and I have no idea what the next one is going to do. Plus autumn is starting in August, which is NEVER a good sign :-/
Since it’s almost 6:30 in the morning here, I think I should try to sleep. Goodnight, all.
Niters!
G’night Michael! But I only got up like 5 hours ago, so more sleep probably won’t help any, which leaves the answer being that I must be undercaffeinated (but you think me sweet 🙂 thanks)
M Dubz — yeah it’s just below 70 here, which, given it’s midnight, is sensible. It’s the part where the high for the next week is looking like 84 max and 80 most days. I’m going to have a sad if it snows before Halloween, though I suppose this might settle it — I’m debating costumes, cuz I insist in making my own and haven’t done something generic in years (vampire? Lucy from Dracula; pirate? The captain from EA’s book)…I’m thinking 11, cuz I have a bow tie and can surely make a fez out of red felt right?
Not like I’ll be going further than the porch anyways, but I enjoy it. And I do not enjoy freezing because it’s decided to be 30 out!
Tangentially!
Pecunium, we may have to wait on the forsythia unless I can start it indoors, idk about snow before Halloween, but I’d bet money first frost won’t be long after I’m there. (Lol, you need help moving the plants in? I do owe you one…)
oooh Halloween costumes! I’ve been wanting to go as Ursula for years, and I think this might just be the year! (last year I went as YoSaffBridge from Firefly, and the year before that I was the Feminist Hulk)
I’ve actually been working on my costume – yes, this early, because I need it much earlier than usual this year. And it’s fairly elaborate.