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Women are lying when they say they want more dicks on TV, Men’s Rights Redditors explain

Artist Louise Bourgeois also pretended to like dongs.
Artist Louise Bourgeois also pretended to like dongs.

So for some reason the fellas on the Men’s Rights subreddit are discussing an article by Australian newspaper columnist Clementine Ford in which she expresses her desire to see more dongs on television.

As she notes, there are plenty of boobs on display on HBO shows like Game of Thrones, yet “rarely are we treated to the visual smorgasbord of a well stocked meat platter. ” Ford is sick of it.  “So bring on the parade of wangs, willies and woodies!” she demands. “I’m fond of a wand and I’m not ashamed to say it.”

I’m not terribly familiar with the writings of Clementine Ford, but evidently she’s not big on subtlety.

Anyway, the fellas in the Men’s Rights subreddit aren’t having any of it. Nuh uh. They ain’t buying it, ladies! You may write columns about how you want more wang on TV. You may talk about it with your friends. You may have gigantic collections of peen pics hidden away on your hard drive.

But the MRAs of Reddit know better. It’s all some devious feminist ploy, as Steampunk_Moustache helpfully explains.

Steampunk_Moustache 1 point 5 hours ago (2|1)  It's rather funny seeing feminists pretend they want to see penises just so that they can make this (weak) argument, isn't it?  Women don't want to look at dicks. Women don't get turned on by the sight of dicks.  Do you know who gets turned on by the sight of dicks? Ironically, straight men.

Huh. That took an odd twist at the end there.

But it’s our old friend Giegerwasright who provides the real answer, in the form of a wall-o-mansplainin’ so giant that I had to shrink the text to even screencap it.

giegerwasright 27 points 10 hours ago (31|4)  OK, my negroes. I'm going to lay this out for you. Because the women in this article and the writer of this article... they aren't interested at all in the male form. Not a single bit. They're just being spoiled brat children (as usual) stomping their feet and nasally sneering "what about you! what about you!" They're just looking for something to whinge about and make demands of (as usual) that they never really have any interest in making use of.  How may women in visual arts profess an adoration for the male form? Can you name a single female visual artist who has expressed her passion for that male form through her art in a manner that is sublime? I can't. I can easily fine male visual artists who do so. Michelangelo's David is a pretty classic example. Everything by Caravaggio stands out quite beautifully. Mapplethorpe's photos of men show a passion for the male form, a passion that ultimately killed him, that I have never in my life seen expressed in a single woman's work. Never. Women don't appreciate or even like the male form very much. They like what it gets them.  You're just as likely to find men who express that adoration for the female form as you will the male. I'd start with Mona Lisa, but I find that painting to be rather reserved and dispassionate. Take a look at the work of John Singer Sargent. Picasso expressed adoration for the female form both in and out of his cubist works. Monet, Manet, Van Gogh, to Man Ray and Helmut Newton. On and on and on is a list of male artists with a visceral and obsessive adoration for the female form.  And female artists? What do they like? Nearly unilaterally, they seem to prefer the female form as well. They are not driven by the same compulsion for the opposite sex that so many male artists seem to experience. They just aren't interested. What did Frida Khalo paint? Herself. Georgia O'Keefe? her vagina. Cindy Sherman? More women. Even pop photographers are more interested in the female form. Look at the work of Bunny Yeager. Women as artists are only concerned with their own form.  The only interest that women have in the male form is it's utility and as fodder for humor. "tee hee! a penis! tee hee!". These women aren't requesting "cocks". They don't want "dicks". They aren't raging for "erections". They want "dongs". Fodder for jokes. Remember when Ensler came out with the Vagina Monologues? We all know it here. The play waxed poetic about the beauty and versimilitude of the female organ. What did men get that year? That year, the penis got "Puppetry of the Penis". A joke. A ridicule. A parlour trick. A fucking carnival act.  So, when women clench their fists and bawl with quivering lower lip "Why dere is no dongz on da tee vee!?!?" I have to respond "Because you don't fucking want them. That's why."

Huh.

So why exactly are women pretending to be interested in seeing more penises on television? So they can point at them and laugh?

Women are such an enigma, especially if you just assume that nothing they ever say is true and that it’s all part of some weird plot to screw with men’s heads.

(H/t to r/againstmensrights for pointing me to geigerwasright’s lovely comment.)

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kittehserf
11 years ago

“Eat the Red Biscuit” and misandroof! Brilliant! 😀 😀 😀

The average Stoic Sophist of today
The average Stoic Sophist of today
11 years ago

What’s the DRA equivalent of a fedora?

kittehserf
11 years ago

What’s the DRA equivalent of a fedora?

Not wearing a collar, maybe?

The average Stoic Sophist of today
The average Stoic Sophist of today
11 years ago

There are K-9 units in the police and the military, but no Feline units. Just another example of the “disposable dog” mentality.

cloudiah
11 years ago

David, I think they claim to get it from the CDC; at least they make that claim and have an annotated screenshot at their Wiki: http://www.mensrightswiki.org/index.php?title=Feminism

(But I think they call it envelopment, not engulfment.)

As for rebuttals, this was recommended by someone here, but I haven’t watched it yet:

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@kittehs

Abbott’s a nasty piece of work […]

Wow that dude sounds like such an asshole x(

katz
11 years ago

What’s the DRA equivalent of a fedora?

A vintage pashmina?

cloudiah
11 years ago

Is it just me, or does the black-and-white photo on Warren Farrell’s twitter page make him look like the male version of overly attached girlfriend?

kittehserf
11 years ago

neuroticbeagle, you owe me a cup of coffee now.

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

Some critics of the MPAA’s NC-17 rating (in relation to full-frontal male nudity) have noted that it’s just as much about shielding men from feeling like they have to measure up to whatever they’re seeing on the screen. No wonder hot shrew’s married to schlubs is such a popular scenario in sitcoms — even though MRAs would have us believe it’s misandry. I mean, shit, if she likes looking at peen, then that could mean she’s gone out of her way to look at various peens — on different men. “Oh hell, what if the same kind of woman looks at MY peen,” thinks an insecure MRA type. “What if she’s comparing me to another dude?! Noooo!”

I guess their only recourse is trying to dictate what (cis) female sexuality is like (hoes like money, not good sex). Whew! It’s a good thing I and many other women know what we like — and that includes the wand! Seeing it and the rest of men’s bits in pieces , maybe sometimes even in slash scenarios — can be awesome. Now, if you will excuse me, I’ll just be in my bunk…

We get it, though, women who like sex and men’s bodies scare the ever-loving fuck out of insecure types.

kittehserf
11 years ago

I wonder if the OP scuzzbuckets who’re all “women don’t even like looking at penises” are also obsessed with getting women to do things to said bits. Because it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they consciously held the view that women don’t like sex/penises but insist on their entitlement to inflict them on us anyway.

lightcastle
lightcastle
11 years ago

I don’t know if you consider her art sublime (and leaving her politics aside for the moment), but Leni Riefenstahl knew a thing or two about photography and motion pictures as visual artistry, and clearly was a *big fan* of the male form, often naked.

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

Sex is for boys, kitteh. Women just endure it and think about shopping the whole time.
(sarcasm off)

I also wonder if they find themselves disgusting. There’s a bit of self-loathing in the OP.

thekidwiththereplaceablehead

Shiraz: Yes, exactly! I would also note that the idea that women don’t really care about looks seems one of the cornerstones of PUAism. (It’s all really about SOCIAL DOMINANCE ARR.) I would imagine that being judged on bodily appearance in the same way that they judge women would be sort of terrifying to a lot of dudes.

Oh wait, sorry, we’re all wrong. Here is startling new evidence that straight women think dudes are gross:

Celeste Deuel
11 years ago

Erect penises are glorious imo!

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

A guy wrote that scene, right? Or a woman who’s internalized a lot of sexism over time. Women get told they don’t care about looks and men’s bodies so often, I’m not exactly shocked when some women believe it.
Though of course for some people, left to their own devices, don’t care about looks and bodies, and that’s ok too.

kittehserf
11 years ago

‘sfunny, isn’t it. MRAs proclaim that women don’t care about or don’t like men’s looks and bodies and don’t like sex at all, but at the same time whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine that they can’t get dates/teh SECKS because they’re just “average looking guys who don’t have a chance” and women are all off riding that cock carousel (which hardly seems to follow if we’re all just doing it for the money).

That they, the MRAs, might be the deeply, grossly unattractive ones, and that it has nothing to do with their looks or women’s sexual preferences (even if such could be generalised), is something they’d never admit.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Sex is for boys, kitteh. Women just endure it and think about shopping the whole time.
(sarcasm off)

Shhh, Shiraz! I don’t want Louis knowing I just make overtures so as to have an enhanced thinking-about-shopping experience.

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

Yeah, the circular logic could induce whipflash.

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

“Shhh, Shiraz! I don’t want Louis knowing I just make overtures so as to have an enhanced thinking-about-shopping experience.”

Tee-hee. 🙂

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: YoullNeverGuess

Anathema got it.

RE: Anathema

Yeah, that. And. Er. TMI, but my dick just doesn’t react to much of anything, if I’m not on testosterone. I realize that that a lot of people are into hard dick, and that’s totally fine, I get that, I just feel pretty bad at the idea that even if I was lying in my husband’s bed, giving him the Cruise of Death, it’d be a lie unless my dick was hard.

kittehserf
11 years ago

giving him the Cruise of Death,

Dammit, that’s two drinks I’ve lost today!

I’m just glad it’s not the Tom Cruise of Death.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: kittehserf

Oh, no ma’am, I’d never give him the Tom Cruise of Death. I’d like to continue getting banged in the future, thank you very much.

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