So for some reason the fellas on the Men’s Rights subreddit are discussing an article by Australian newspaper columnist Clementine Ford in which she expresses her desire to see more dongs on television.
As she notes, there are plenty of boobs on display on HBO shows like Game of Thrones, yet “rarely are we treated to the visual smorgasbord of a well stocked meat platter. ” Ford is sick of it. “So bring on the parade of wangs, willies and woodies!” she demands. “I’m fond of a wand and I’m not ashamed to say it.”
I’m not terribly familiar with the writings of Clementine Ford, but evidently she’s not big on subtlety.
Anyway, the fellas in the Men’s Rights subreddit aren’t having any of it. Nuh uh. They ain’t buying it, ladies! You may write columns about how you want more wang on TV. You may talk about it with your friends. You may have gigantic collections of peen pics hidden away on your hard drive.
But the MRAs of Reddit know better. It’s all some devious feminist ploy, as Steampunk_Moustache helpfully explains.
Huh. That took an odd twist at the end there.
But it’s our old friend Giegerwasright who provides the real answer, in the form of a wall-o-mansplainin’ so giant that I had to shrink the text to even screencap it.
Huh.
So why exactly are women pretending to be interested in seeing more penises on television? So they can point at them and laugh?
Women are such an enigma, especially if you just assume that nothing they ever say is true and that it’s all part of some weird plot to screw with men’s heads.
(H/t to r/againstmensrights for pointing me to geigerwasright’s lovely comment.)
“Breasts vs. Penises”, NEXT on the SYFY channel!
I’m sure we could direct you to some if you liked. (This thread is bound to devolve into pictures of naked men sooner or later.)
Son, complaining about the site that quotes an article instead debating the info is a straw man tactic.
And just to be clear, Good, the people in the OP say things like,
They are straight up saying that this woman who claims to want to see dick is lying. He has no evidence about this particular woman, he just goes on to explain that no women have ever expressed sincere interest in the male form. He is saying that literally no woman is telling the truth when she says she likes to look at dick.
And then you come in claiming that you have studies that seem “to support what the subreddit guys are saying.”
These studies DO NOT support the assertion that literally every single woman who claims to like dick is a liar. They lend possible support to the assertion that naked men outside of a sexual context are less arousing than any configuration of humans, men included, actually fucking. Less arousing is not the same as not at all arousing. For that to be true, the arousal level of every single woman in that study would be ZERO when looking at a naked man. The articles you linked do not suggest that every single woman was not at all in any way shape or form aroused by naked men.
Therefore your articles do not at all support the assertion of the redditors that literally every single woman in the entire world thinks dick is completely unsexy.
So shut the fuck up.
I’m actually glad Good is here. He is so boring, it is motivating me to finish the last of my employees’ work plans & evaluations by powering through them while I eat lunch.
(Did he just call someone here “Son?” Seriously?)
@katz
Nuts, I’ll feel all left out XD Though I do have my own (boring?) story about when I first saw a picture of a penis. It looked different than I’d been lead to believe…
Deniseeliza, do you always believe that any stated group dynamic or common practice is a statement about every single individual?
YOU’RE NOT MY REAL DAD!!!!
@Good, do you always manage to deny when people are making a generalizing statement about a large group of people?
Wrong again, bud. You’re the one trying to frame it as a “sex organ” issue.
And all of those HBO shows listed on the video are showing full frontal female nudity, not just tits.
THAT’S AD HOMINEM NOT STRAW MAN FUCK AND IT’S NOT A REAL AD HOMINEM AAAAAAA
No, it isn’t. It isn’t even a poisoning-the-well fallacy, because it’s the Daily Fucking Fail. I’m surprised it didn’t tell us how sexual arousal has been banned by Elf ‘n’ Safe Tea, or how breasts will cause/prevent [strike whichever is appropriate] cancer.
@Michael Søndberg Olsen
I’m not sure where you’re going with this but I am sure I like it 😀 Seems so much funner to debate Good this way XD
This sounds like one of those stories that’s either hilarious or awful. Or maybe both.
Dammit, ninja’ed. And I was so proud of the Elf ‘n’ Safe Tea crack. 🙁
No, you stated that breasts and penises are not comparable, and were told that you were wrong.
No, a strawman is “creat[ing] the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition”
@howard bannister
Now my story will never live up to it’s hype…
Just like all penis stories.
Just like all penis
stories.What kind of an adult woman – or any mature human being for that matter, giggles like a little child when a penis appears on screen? Or anywhere.
Maybe it’s a cultural thing.
I’ve seen plenty of dongs on TV, and I certainly wouldn’t mind more nudity. I’d just like it to be non-sexualized. Sexual stuff is ok too, as long as it makes sense in the context of the scene (not just blatant fanservice). Also, a little less focus on the importance of PIV would be nice…
Actually, one thing that I absolutely loathe seeing anywhere is people kissing.
The sounds alone make me nauseous, let alone watching a close up of two people in a liplock.
People like different things. If someone says looking at dicks makes them hot, I see no reason not to believe it.
My favourite part of all of this is Louise Bourgeois’ expression.
Good
You are saying that women aren’t interested in the male form – the study you linked to shows that women have been socialized this way, it also says “if they saw the male body more often they would be more comfortable in their role as the viewer here.”
Explain why “because they can see this, I should be able to see that” is not acceptable.
Why shouldn’t women “be more comfortable in their role as the viewer”?
Why Naked Male Chests on TV Are Not Comparable to Naked Female Breasts on TV
by Karalora
Female breasts are sexualized in our culture. Naked female breasts on TV are used to signal SEXYTIMES in the story. If a man is involved in the SEXYTIMES they will usually show his naked chest too…but since naked male chests also appear in many non-SEXYTIMES contexts on TV, it’s not the automatic SEXYTIMES signal that naked female breasts are.
Women are pretty smart and can usually figure out from other clues whether a naked male chest indicates SEXYTIMES in the story or something else, but it would still be nice for us to have an automatic SEXYTIMES indicator that was meant for our gaze.
@PJ; Word.
@Catfish
The sound makes me nauseous too, as well as the sound of chewing. I don’t mind the visuals though.