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Women are lying when they say they want more dicks on TV, Men’s Rights Redditors explain

Artist Louise Bourgeois also pretended to like dongs.
Artist Louise Bourgeois also pretended to like dongs.

So for some reason the fellas on the Men’s Rights subreddit are discussing an article by Australian newspaper columnist Clementine Ford in which she expresses her desire to see more dongs on television.

As she notes, there are plenty of boobs on display on HBO shows like Game of Thrones, yet “rarely are we treated to the visual smorgasbord of a well stocked meat platter. ” Ford is sick of it.  “So bring on the parade of wangs, willies and woodies!” she demands. “I’m fond of a wand and I’m not ashamed to say it.”

I’m not terribly familiar with the writings of Clementine Ford, but evidently she’s not big on subtlety.

Anyway, the fellas in the Men’s Rights subreddit aren’t having any of it. Nuh uh. They ain’t buying it, ladies! You may write columns about how you want more wang on TV. You may talk about it with your friends. You may have gigantic collections of peen pics hidden away on your hard drive.

But the MRAs of Reddit know better. It’s all some devious feminist ploy, as Steampunk_Moustache helpfully explains.

Steampunk_Moustache 1 point 5 hours ago (2|1)  It's rather funny seeing feminists pretend they want to see penises just so that they can make this (weak) argument, isn't it?  Women don't want to look at dicks. Women don't get turned on by the sight of dicks.  Do you know who gets turned on by the sight of dicks? Ironically, straight men.

Huh. That took an odd twist at the end there.

But it’s our old friend Giegerwasright who provides the real answer, in the form of a wall-o-mansplainin’ so giant that I had to shrink the text to even screencap it.

giegerwasright 27 points 10 hours ago (31|4)  OK, my negroes. I'm going to lay this out for you. Because the women in this article and the writer of this article... they aren't interested at all in the male form. Not a single bit. They're just being spoiled brat children (as usual) stomping their feet and nasally sneering "what about you! what about you!" They're just looking for something to whinge about and make demands of (as usual) that they never really have any interest in making use of.  How may women in visual arts profess an adoration for the male form? Can you name a single female visual artist who has expressed her passion for that male form through her art in a manner that is sublime? I can't. I can easily fine male visual artists who do so. Michelangelo's David is a pretty classic example. Everything by Caravaggio stands out quite beautifully. Mapplethorpe's photos of men show a passion for the male form, a passion that ultimately killed him, that I have never in my life seen expressed in a single woman's work. Never. Women don't appreciate or even like the male form very much. They like what it gets them.  You're just as likely to find men who express that adoration for the female form as you will the male. I'd start with Mona Lisa, but I find that painting to be rather reserved and dispassionate. Take a look at the work of John Singer Sargent. Picasso expressed adoration for the female form both in and out of his cubist works. Monet, Manet, Van Gogh, to Man Ray and Helmut Newton. On and on and on is a list of male artists with a visceral and obsessive adoration for the female form.  And female artists? What do they like? Nearly unilaterally, they seem to prefer the female form as well. They are not driven by the same compulsion for the opposite sex that so many male artists seem to experience. They just aren't interested. What did Frida Khalo paint? Herself. Georgia O'Keefe? her vagina. Cindy Sherman? More women. Even pop photographers are more interested in the female form. Look at the work of Bunny Yeager. Women as artists are only concerned with their own form.  The only interest that women have in the male form is it's utility and as fodder for humor. "tee hee! a penis! tee hee!". These women aren't requesting "cocks". They don't want "dicks". They aren't raging for "erections". They want "dongs". Fodder for jokes. Remember when Ensler came out with the Vagina Monologues? We all know it here. The play waxed poetic about the beauty and versimilitude of the female organ. What did men get that year? That year, the penis got "Puppetry of the Penis". A joke. A ridicule. A parlour trick. A fucking carnival act.  So, when women clench their fists and bawl with quivering lower lip "Why dere is no dongz on da tee vee!?!?" I have to respond "Because you don't fucking want them. That's why."

Huh.

So why exactly are women pretending to be interested in seeing more penises on television? So they can point at them and laugh?

Women are such an enigma, especially if you just assume that nothing they ever say is true and that it’s all part of some weird plot to screw with men’s heads.

(H/t to r/againstmensrights for pointing me to geigerwasright’s lovely comment.)

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pecunium
11 years ago

Just finished watching “Waking Ned Devine”. It has some naked men (who are both in the neighborhood of 60). Nothing frontal, but just sort of casual.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: pecunium

I LOVE ‘Waking Ned Devine.’

RE: katz

And holy fuckballs, I’d totally forgotten about Artifice. …I really need to buy a copy. BUT NOT NOW. I AM TRAVELING DAMMIT. NO MORE BUYING THINGS.

Robert
Robert
11 years ago

I believe myself to be somewhat atypical of gay men in that exposed peen, whether attached to attractive men or not, do not do much for me. I AM intrigued by the idea of straight men being inveigled by such representations. I’ve gone so far as to admit to my beloved husband of seventeen years that I’m not aroused by his erect penis because of its size or beauty, but because it’s part of HIM. He is dealing well with this revelation.

Fortunately, he knows that it is both large and beautiful, which may help.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: Robert

You’re not alone. I’m the same way. It’s weird, being a gay man who feels pretty much no attachment to most gay porn, because godDAMN do they make dick the center of the universe.

yaoi huntress earth
yaoi huntress earth
11 years ago

I like some of the vintage stuff myself like Greek Lightning, myself.

kittehserf
11 years ago

I believe myself to be somewhat atypical of gay men in that exposed peen, whether attached to attractive men or not, do not do much for me.

That took me straight to disembodied peen territory. I am SO glad I wasn’t drinking anything.

I feel much the same way about my man’s bits as you do about yours – the beauty is in the who more than the what. (That was a godawful sentence but it’s still better than the first way I tried writing it.)

Molly
Molly
11 years ago

Deeply curious whether these men are aware there are thousands upon thousands of women writing m/m slash fic–absolutely full to the brim with cocks!–for free all over the Internet?

pecunium
11 years ago

Howard:

Okay, wait, can we back up to the OP for a minute?

Why ARE straight men the ones most turned on by seeing penises?

Anybody?

At a guess, they are using eye-tracking as one of the measured aspects in the study and the op-def has decided that noticing the penis = sexual interest.

Given the large cultural pressure to, “measure up” I’m pretty sure a lot of straight guys pay, non-sexual, attention to other men’s penes.

pecunium
11 years ago

LBT: Me too. It was that or “The Man Who Went up a Hill and Came Down a Mountain. I was the only one in the house who’d seen both, and I opted for Ned Devine, though (oddly) Iwas confusing it with “Last Orders” (Bob Hoskins, Michael Caine).

CassandraSays
11 years ago

Ah, it’s that time again.

Brz
Brz
11 years ago

@thatstonerbitch

It may not be as easy to get the publicity and funding for art series glorifying penises, and I get the feeling that has little to do with “teh evil feminists oppressing mai peen”

A few months back, one day, in another life, before I knew the existence of the manosphere, Miss Marcotte, manboobz and the rest of the funny weirdos who roam in this corner of the Internet, when I was still a very-bored kind of househusband living in a boring Bostonian suburb, I went to a museum.
I went to an exhibition on the art of the ’80s, it was horrible, almost all the pieces in the museum were supposed to challenge or denounce the (male) sexism and the (white) racism in the American society, one room for each -ism and another one to hate on Reagan, all of this was supposed to be subversive, probably as subversive and challenging than playing The Vagina Monologues for the nth time in your liberal college’s theater and the worst part, the icing on the cake, was the explications on the sheets next to the pieces : “this work challenges the sexism and the power of the male gaze in our society”, “this sculpture denounces the stereotypes against the native American”. It was the first time in my life that I was in an exhibition whose curators decided that it would be better if they would just put little sheets on the walls to tell me how I should interpret a piece of art instead of just letting me form my own opinion as curators in non-Soviet countries usually do : it was my first encounter with the SJ cult.

Some pieces weren’t challeging or denouncing what is socially acceptable to challenge and denounce, or at least not in a direct way, for example, there was a picture, a close-up of a suited black man lower belly, fly open, an enormous penis, calm and heavy like a dozing boa, hanging in the middle of the picture. The sheet was saying that this picture was a celebration of the Black Man’s Body beauty.
It was the only depiction of a penis in addition with a multicolor native American plaster dick, two big minorities’ dicks threatening to thrust Teh White Racist Establishment. The curators didn’t add a white dick to help them crushing the horrible old and wrinkled western civilization because it would have been unwelcome, offensive and triggering , even a little flaccid one because it would have looked like whiny which and it’s unwelcome, offensive and triggering when something white and male looks whiny. Surely, a picture of a white peen could have been challenging in this kind of environment.

The moral being: thanks to the wonderful concept of the inter/trans/meta/sectionality, a dongle-lover feminist can go the latest boring SJ art-propaganda while enjoying the view of proud and virile erected penis because black dicks =oppressed dicks =/= evil patriarchy. What a relief.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Brz, go away. You’re wasting pixels.

CassandraSays
11 years ago

Does anyone actually read his comments any more?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
11 years ago

@Brz:

Literally every museum I’ve ever been to puts descriptions of its pieces on the walls… If the museum was dedicated to subversive art with meaning that was best interpreted in the context of its time, why would you be surprised if the description included the reason and intended meaning?

Surely, a picture of a white peen could have been challenging in this kind of environment.

Oooh, I know. You could also put a big statue of famous rich white people in there as well. If it gets too crowded, you could probably take out some of the other pieces. That’d really be challenging.

>: (

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

That didn’t sound French at all.

Ally S
11 years ago

the wonderful concept of the inter/trans/meta/sectionality

This attempt to mock the concept of intersectionality is pathetic and embarrassing beyond belief. Seriously, I can’t see how anyone, even an MRA, could find that humorous. Please do yourself a favor and start being interesting. Like I said, it’s the least you can do.

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@cassandra says

Does anyone actually read his comments any more?

I sure don’t.

Malitia
Malitia
11 years ago

Well, I’m from a country where a middle-aged white guy* wanted to erect (argh this will sound awkward) a statue of his penis in public. Thank goodness the authorities were saner (which is saying something) and didn’t let him indirectly flash all women in the neighborhood.

* Benkő Dániel. He is a musician but more well known for such stunts, being an entitled douche… and having a terminal case of one track mind.

Falconer
11 years ago

Does anyone actually read his comments any more?

I don’t until I run ’em through Google Translate a couple of times for that authentic flavor.

Hey, if he forgets to pretend to be French, I gotta take matters into my own mouse.

Brz
Brz
11 years ago

If it’s true, Benkő Dániel is one of the few real artists of our time, a Pinoncelli with even more balls.
dis iz meuh dick, dis is teh patriarchy.
Love that.

Viscaria
Viscaria
11 years ago

I haven’t actually read a comment from Brz all the way through since about the second week he was posting here. Sometimes I will try reading one, just to see what I’m missing, but I never get farther than halfway before deciding it’s not worth it.

katz
11 years ago

Haven’t read his comments in ages. The only funny thing he’s ever said was “the country of cheese and surrendering.”

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

Go look at Tom of Finland art, Brz. It’ll satisfy allllll your white erect dick needs.

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

I wait brz wants a white erect dick? Now I feel like I am actually missing something but brz is also too boring to read.

Howard Bannister
11 years ago

a Pinoncelli with even more balls.

…but the patriarchy is totez fake-o, and there’s absolutely NO misogyny embedded in our language!

Hey, Brz, you made a … snarky, yet hate-filled comment earlier. All ‘yeah, I came here to learn about feminism from some teenager’ blah blah.

While being cut down by a room filled with mostly fully grown men and women.

It’s almost as if you need to pretend we’re inferior to you in some way to avoid facing something obvious. Because you’ve been pretending harder and harder lately.

Gee, I wonder what’s going on with that?

Actually, I don’t because you’re tedious and obnoxious. And I gotta say, if you’re really french, you’ve managed to become miraculously good at English in record time. Well done! You should totally start teaching other people linguistic tips.

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