Red Pill ideology isn’t just hateful and misogynistic; it’s also a remarkably bleak way to look at the world, even for the men who supposedly benefit the most from taking “the red pill” — that is, the allegedly smooth players who boast about bedding so many women on “game” blogs.
Take, for example, what you might call the “spoiled milk” theory of marriage that’s sometimes trotted out on these blogs.
Since women reach their prime young, the theory goes, then rapidly lose their looks and their value after “hitting the wall” at the age or 25 or 30, it only makes sense to marry a woman when she’s young — so you get to have sex with her before she gets all old and hideous.
If you marry her later, this means that someone else has had her at her best — and you haven’t!
As the blogger at LaidNYC argues in a post titled “Don’t Marry Any Woman Older Than 25,”
If you meet your wife when she’s older than around 23 or 24:
You are eating someone else’s cold leftovers, then doing their dishes.
You are showing up to a party after everyone has left and cleaning up after them.
You are getting into a taxi and paying the fare of the person who got out before you.
You are taking the nearly expired milk to the grocery store counter and offering to pay double for it.
He goes on in this fashion for some time.
You are paying for someone’s credit card bill full of reckless spending and partying that you never got to enjoy. …
You are trying to unclog somebody else’s clogged toilet.
Ok, now that last one didn’t even make sense.
Anyway, after running out of metaphors, LaidNYC gets to his point:
A girl who refuses to get married young is offering a raw deal. She is vastly overvaluing her product, and undervaluing your time and money.
Marriage only makes sense for a man when a girl’s prime years of beauty and fertility are upfront payment for a lifetime of loving masculine support.
LaidNYC goes on to suggest that women who are too picky when they’re young will end up regretting it later:
Is it any wonder, then, that as females are delaying marriage longer, they are finding less willing men?
Youthful arrogance is the yellow brick road to spinsterhood.
But I want to go back to that previous bit:
Marriage only makes sense for a man when a girl’s prime years of beauty and fertility are upfront payment for a lifetime of loving masculine support.
Can you imagine a more depressing way to look at marriage? If you’re so twisted by your misogyny that you can’t see value in your wife after she hits the age of 30 or so, and stick with her only out of a sense of obligation because she fucked you when she was 25, well, dude, you deserve to be miserable. And I can only hope your wife leaves you for someone who can appreciate her in the here and now.
Misogynistic assholes are at least as good at making themselves miserable as they are at making things shitty for other people.
That canned frosting is nasty.
It’s nice to know that if ever I go and troll I can always fall back on, “Sorry, english is not my first language but I’ll try.”
Try yogurt + powdered sugar + cocoa powder. 3 ingredients.
Yogurt in frosting? Interesting.
@La Strega
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo! It is so yummy and chocolatey and yuuummmmmyyyyyy and chooooccooollllaaattteee! this is an extremely important debate!
@katz
hmmm. I am suspicious of yogurt. -.- How stiff is it? I need icing to be stiff enough that I can work with it. (why I don’t use it from cans much).
Energomash. My first language ain’t English, either. Learn to know what words mean before using them like you’re a robot.
grumpycatisagirl: anytime!
How stiff it is depends on how much powdered sugar you add. This is the quick “I want to eat some frosting” recipe, not the recipe for optimal texture, though. (Sometimes when I’m extra lazy, I just mix hot cocoa powder with yogurt.) The “real” recipe if you’re actually frosting a cake is butter + milk + powdered sugar + cocoa powder, and a little melted chocolate helps too.
Yeah, he can definitely kindly fuck off. And I hope you have more good days than bad Kristineedscats.
Pecunium — can’t tell if your example is you or not you. Wasn’t watching you cooking to tell if you’re a leftie…guessing not since you didn’t know what I meant about shooting with a left handed bow…*is curious!*
Guys! GUYS!! Skittish came over to investigate my hand while I was removing my feral algae and otherwise doing underwater gardening! They may need an “upgrade” to bold and not so bold 🙂
Relevance? Fish totally have personalities.
@katz
(ignore me if I’m bugging you, just icing is like a million times more interesting than the troll)
Does melted chocolate work well in icing? Normally I use cocoa powder when I do it, but i have to add soooo much more water. It’s such a pain :/
I do as well.
The important distinction (to me) is that in the occasions I say, “female”, I also say, “male”.
It’s the use of one noun form, and one adjectival form which makes me see someone as a chucklehead.
Same for “men/women boys/girls”. Those are matched pairs, not to be mixed withouth reason (and that can be done, because eight-year olds are not men, and calling a woman in her twenties a “girl”, just because she happens to be with children is wrong).
Ernergomash is either an idiot troll (who thinks some weak-ass pretensions to philosophy = clever) or completely failing at empathy.
Becuase, as Dvärghundspossen points out, there isn’t any, epistemic need for “intrinsic value”, but if a person values themself, and can’t extrapolate that sense of worth to others (which is what I think most of us are saying when we refer to an, “intrinsic value” to others), then they aren’t possessed of empathy.
Which is a huge problem.
Why not? A does not follow B. If they have no intrinsic value what matter their desire to live?
And I need to learn how to refresh before commenting!
Well, the nice thing about melted chocolate is that your frosting will set nice and solid. The downside is that you have to frost whatever it is you’re frosting right away while it’s still warm. I usually add it in addition to cocoa.
What is the recipe you use?
Robot 1: What is it to be HU-man?
Robot 2: To be HU-man is to have certain emotional dispositions towards that person or object.
Robot 1: What is EE-motion?
Robot 2: HU-man emotions cause them to react in a certain way to that person or object.
Robot 1: I am glad I have no such EE-motions. To react in a certain way to a person or object sounds most troublesome.
Robot 2: Affirmative.
>>>Only the ‘observer’ gives value to things (values them)
That’s nice, dear. It doesn’t follow from ontological materialism though. That’s a complete non sequitur.
At least if you had claimed sollipsism it would have been a pretty A -> B implication.
>>>But that’s plain ol’ materialism, I dunno what, if that’s the case, the “ontological” is doing there except making it sound more smarter.
The “ontological” is just so you don’t get people confused if they typically use ‘materialism’ under its ‘vulgar’ definition of “an undue interest in money or hedonistic pleasures”. I typically do only use “materialism” in this way but then half the time your interlocutor just misunderstands what you’re saying, especially if you’re using it in a positive sense.
@katz
Remembering from the top of my head, normally I use canned shortening, merange (sp?) powder, sugar, vanilla extract (since chocolate is a pain).
Okay it’s been a while and I’m not sure I’ve got that right… it sounds off, but I can’t say why.
Interesting. That sounds like a very rich recipe.
Oh man, I wish I hadn’t watched a Classic Who episode with Cybermen in it last night, because now I’m hearing that in their voices.
Their gloating, manipulated voices.
Any minute now they’re going to start hurting people and proclaiming that emotions are weakness.
Damn you, capitalism, stealing all our good words!!
Chibigodzilla… what is… kiss?
And Blackbloc, yeah, it’s either solipsism or sociopathy. I mean, what the hell.
It’s “meringue.”
If I can be trusted with French.
Since this is the first time I’ve heard of LaidinNYC . . . is it too much to hope that this particular blogger doesn’t actually have a following, in the depressing pathetic way that Roosh does? Nobody pays this dude money for his bile, I hope?