Red Pill ideology isn’t just hateful and misogynistic; it’s also a remarkably bleak way to look at the world, even for the men who supposedly benefit the most from taking “the red pill” — that is, the allegedly smooth players who boast about bedding so many women on “game” blogs.
Take, for example, what you might call the “spoiled milk” theory of marriage that’s sometimes trotted out on these blogs.
Since women reach their prime young, the theory goes, then rapidly lose their looks and their value after “hitting the wall” at the age or 25 or 30, it only makes sense to marry a woman when she’s young — so you get to have sex with her before she gets all old and hideous.
If you marry her later, this means that someone else has had her at her best — and you haven’t!
As the blogger at LaidNYC argues in a post titled “Don’t Marry Any Woman Older Than 25,”
If you meet your wife when she’s older than around 23 or 24:
You are eating someone else’s cold leftovers, then doing their dishes.
You are showing up to a party after everyone has left and cleaning up after them.
You are getting into a taxi and paying the fare of the person who got out before you.
You are taking the nearly expired milk to the grocery store counter and offering to pay double for it.
He goes on in this fashion for some time.
You are paying for someone’s credit card bill full of reckless spending and partying that you never got to enjoy. …
You are trying to unclog somebody else’s clogged toilet.
Ok, now that last one didn’t even make sense.
Anyway, after running out of metaphors, LaidNYC gets to his point:
A girl who refuses to get married young is offering a raw deal. She is vastly overvaluing her product, and undervaluing your time and money.
Marriage only makes sense for a man when a girl’s prime years of beauty and fertility are upfront payment for a lifetime of loving masculine support.
LaidNYC goes on to suggest that women who are too picky when they’re young will end up regretting it later:
Is it any wonder, then, that as females are delaying marriage longer, they are finding less willing men?
Youthful arrogance is the yellow brick road to spinsterhood.
But I want to go back to that previous bit:
Marriage only makes sense for a man when a girl’s prime years of beauty and fertility are upfront payment for a lifetime of loving masculine support.
Can you imagine a more depressing way to look at marriage? If you’re so twisted by your misogyny that you can’t see value in your wife after she hits the age of 30 or so, and stick with her only out of a sense of obligation because she fucked you when she was 25, well, dude, you deserve to be miserable. And I can only hope your wife leaves you for someone who can appreciate her in the here and now.
Misogynistic assholes are at least as good at making themselves miserable as they are at making things shitty for other people.
Ah… I had to step away to a meeting for a few hours, and I see I missed all the fun.
Auggz: Did you think you were Kevin Costner from Waterworld?
But somewhat harder to poke things.
@Kate:
Begging the question means the argument takes for granted what it’s supposed to prove. It does NOT mean “poses the question” though it gets used that way far too often (yes Tony Robinson I’m looking at you).
@LBT:
Mr K ages to keep up with me, and damn does he look good, too. But then youse guys are allowed, to, cos dudes, and we all know dudes just get sexier as they age, not like us wimminz.
… Funny though, we didn’t get together ’till I was in my 40s, and my terrible aged curdled milkness doesn’t seem to have put him off his stroke.
@leftwingfox:
Or prat house, in this case.
@Argenti:
Definitely. Under 411 years old, it ain’t happening. 😉
I’m not an atheist so it’s okay with me for this David Futrelle guy to force his value on me all he wants.
No.
But fortunately I seem to like of most of David Futrelle’s values anyway.
Oh, that should have been values in the plural both times. Otherwise in the first sentence it looks like I might be talking about David Futrelle’s intrinsic value, and today an atheist who is smarter and more philosophical than I am taught me human beings don’t have any.
You’ve just convinced me to stop wearing clothes and stop breathing… I foresee a short nudist future. Wait, I may also just be easily suggestible.
Marie — huh, it is a video, but on YouTube so idk wtf.
Kitteh — 😛
That is all.
Goodnight all. It’s almost 4 in the morning here and I haven’t even eaten yet.
Goodnight Michael 🙂 enjoy your meal and sleep!
Nobody’s forcing you to read or comment here, fuckwit. And since you’ve obviously not absorbed the slightest notion of women as full human beings, utterly independent of whether you get a boner about us or not, then no, none of David’s values have made any impact on you.
You’re a troll. Go look it up while you’re looking up all the other words you don’t understand.
“Mr K ages to keep up with me, and damn does he look good, too. But then youse guys are allowed, to, cos dudes, and we all know dudes just get sexier as they age, not like us wimminz.”
Vanessa Redgrave is, to my mind, the perfect example of someone who has aged well. She is more lovely every year.
@auggz:
Oooh oohhh oooh I want one of these!
Okay everyone, if you had a value laser, who would you shoot first? I would shoot the lawmakers of Texas and Florida.
Right now, Russia. I wish I drank alcohol so I could boycott Russian vodka right now. 🙁
I dunno. Given his record so far, there’s nothing to suggest ergonomicmashedspuds values intelligence. A blow-up doll would probably be his perfect mate. For one thing, it wouldn’t have to listen to him.
@sarahlizhousespouse
Blithe Danner, too. She is a vision of loveliness.
I support blasting Rick Perry with the values laser. Is there a smarts laser we could zap him with?
Obama: Then Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor: after that Putin, Harper, Gert van Wilders.. the list is long.
Sadly.
katz – I’d shoot all the politicians in this country first.
Then I’d need a recharge from Argenti, ‘cos zir You Shall Love the Fishies raygun is obvs top of the range. Marie ain’t the only one who’s felt its power!
Gad, Argenti, you’ve given fish fingers an entirely new meaning!
sarahliz – yup, and Helen Mirren and Emma Thompson, too.
On Tom & Lorenzo, Helen Mirren is referred to as Queen Helen of Fanfuckingtastica, and amen to that.
LOL what a great title.
As an atheist, this was quite an exercise in boredom. I thought maybe we’d have a Pelltdown but I guess this was just a random pseudo-rationalist. Though the reversal to moral relativism at the end there lets me think “theist trolling as his strawman atheist pseudo-rationalist” rather than an actual atheist pseudo-rationalist, just because your average atheist pseudo-rationalist glibertarian wanker tends to indulge in a lot of “my morals are objective because A is A”.
@Kittehserf
Thompson is fantastic. She makes The Remains of the Day for me.
@Alice
It took me a while to place Danner. I kept thinking, “she looks like my mother-in-law.”
Wow, that guy was boring as hell. Seriously, I think he just had a massive kink for Philosophy 101.
RE: Kittehs
Hubby is a good bit older than me, which sometimes bothers him. However, I reassure him that I would much rather him be older than me than for him to stop physically aging and for me to soon surpass him. That would just be EERIE.