Red Pill ideology isn’t just hateful and misogynistic; it’s also a remarkably bleak way to look at the world, even for the men who supposedly benefit the most from taking “the red pill” — that is, the allegedly smooth players who boast about bedding so many women on “game” blogs.
Take, for example, what you might call the “spoiled milk” theory of marriage that’s sometimes trotted out on these blogs.
Since women reach their prime young, the theory goes, then rapidly lose their looks and their value after “hitting the wall” at the age or 25 or 30, it only makes sense to marry a woman when she’s young — so you get to have sex with her before she gets all old and hideous.
If you marry her later, this means that someone else has had her at her best — and you haven’t!
As the blogger at LaidNYC argues in a post titled “Don’t Marry Any Woman Older Than 25,”
If you meet your wife when she’s older than around 23 or 24:
You are eating someone else’s cold leftovers, then doing their dishes.
You are showing up to a party after everyone has left and cleaning up after them.
You are getting into a taxi and paying the fare of the person who got out before you.
You are taking the nearly expired milk to the grocery store counter and offering to pay double for it.
He goes on in this fashion for some time.
You are paying for someone’s credit card bill full of reckless spending and partying that you never got to enjoy. …
You are trying to unclog somebody else’s clogged toilet.
Ok, now that last one didn’t even make sense.
Anyway, after running out of metaphors, LaidNYC gets to his point:
A girl who refuses to get married young is offering a raw deal. She is vastly overvaluing her product, and undervaluing your time and money.
Marriage only makes sense for a man when a girl’s prime years of beauty and fertility are upfront payment for a lifetime of loving masculine support.
LaidNYC goes on to suggest that women who are too picky when they’re young will end up regretting it later:
Is it any wonder, then, that as females are delaying marriage longer, they are finding less willing men?
Youthful arrogance is the yellow brick road to spinsterhood.
But I want to go back to that previous bit:
Marriage only makes sense for a man when a girl’s prime years of beauty and fertility are upfront payment for a lifetime of loving masculine support.
Can you imagine a more depressing way to look at marriage? If you’re so twisted by your misogyny that you can’t see value in your wife after she hits the age of 30 or so, and stick with her only out of a sense of obligation because she fucked you when she was 25, well, dude, you deserve to be miserable. And I can only hope your wife leaves you for someone who can appreciate her in the here and now.
Misogynistic assholes are at least as good at making themselves miserable as they are at making things shitty for other people.
My grandmother remarried in her 80s after several years as a widow. Carrying on with the diary simile does that mean her husband bought cheese or would it be butter in this instance.
These MRAs are the consummate capitalists, aren’t they? Everything is a transaction, including marriage. What year is this, 1352?
No matter how I try the use of females instead of women grates on my nerves like fingernails on a chalkboard. It’s like they’re trying to apply a scientific term to make themselves sound less awful. A bit like how judenhass changed into antisemite (and no, that’s not a Godwin, it was a 19th century German who came up with that special touch)
And a payment for “a lifetime of loving masculine support”? More like lifetime of being stuck with some asshole who openly admits that he only thinks you’re good for sex. Yeah, sounds like a great transaction to me. I’m sure all women would be happy to marry men like this while in their 20s and waste not only their best years with them, but the rest of their bleak lives.
How can anyone be an MRA?
This also assumes that everyone WANTS to get married. Personally, I’d rather be a spinster with my beagle than married to a MRA.
Which is a really good thing for me, since I’m “spoiled” at the ripe old age of 30.
women. Not females and not girls. Women, dammit!
And just to be clear to this asshat. Women are people. Women are not dairy goods, toilets, credit cards or any other object. People.
So what? He has a point. Young women are more attractive, whats misogyn about that?
This seems to suggest that young women are flooded with marriage proposals which tey are refusing callously.
I’m 20 where are all my marriage proposals? I want to refuse them so later on I can marry a beta mangina and force him to drink my spoiled milk, hah!
But seriously who the hell do they think is asking these women? I doubt these PUA’s think that young men want to get married before 25 and most people date people around their own age.
So if young men aren’t asking young women to marry them who is?
Apparently in their heads all women under the age of 25 date men significantly older than them who ask them to marry them.
Well I do have one friend my age who is marrying a 35 year old man next year but that is incredibly unusual and considered weird by many.
All the young people I know either do not want to get married yet (men and women), have not been asked or have not yet mt the person they could see themselves marrying.
I can’t help but notice that they decide the women they “don’t want anymore” just HAPPEN to be around the age where women have a bit more experience and are a bit better at spotting the creepers and the PUA tricks these guys use to manipulate women. I’m utterly convinced that this is the primary reason they want 18 year old girls — the less “worldly” a person is, the easier it is to manipulate them. I fell for a lot of shit at 18 that I would never fall for today.
It also assumes that if a woman didn’t marry young, it’s always because she refused to. Never mind that life is complicated and relationships don’t always work out and sometimes men do walk away.
LaidinNYC can go get LaidinHell.
You guys, Keyboardsmash is too alpha to even finish his wo.
“I can’t help but notice that they decide the women they “don’t want anymore” just HAPPEN to be around the age where women have a bit more experience and are a bit better at spotting the creepers and the PUA tricks these guys use to manipulate women. I’m utterly convinced that this is the primary reason they want 18 year old girls — the less “worldly” a person is, the easier it is to manipulate them. I fell for a lot of shit at 18 that I would never fall for today.”
Excellent points here.
@titianblue
Yeah of course women are people. Do you think PUAs want sex with toilets, credit cards or animals?
wow, I thought Mark Minter was unique in his warpedness (I don’t think that is a real word but then again, I am not convinced that these men are real since I don’t see how they could function in the world, Wait, I take that back, I know Mark is real, so never mind!) Apparently when one is banned from the manosphere, there is a new prodigy waiting to take his place. Maybe this guy is him! NEXT.
I just watched The Closer episode that covers PUA (with a little bit of the rapey qualities of the Joe Francis empire thrown in for good measure). One devotee of “Intrigue,” the dead PUA, tries using his PUA skills on Brenda Lee, and not only does she not fall for it, she’s immediately grossed out by it.
The murder victim was filming a show for the fictional channel “Slag” (charming) where he would film his one night stands without their knowledge and then do an entire episode of his show (which was called “Tapped”) for each girl.
Brenda Lee: “He did this to 8 women and he only got shot once?” Okay, that’s terrible but I laughed anyway.
One thing I’ve noticed is that the guys who write things like this seem to view marriage as
A. Something every woman wants
B. An uneven exchange of Wife = Sex, Husband = Money
C. Only in the strictest of heterosexual terms, with no alternatives
What if the couple decides that the woman should work and the man be a househusband?
What if the couple is 2 men, 2 women, a polyamorous group, or some other combination?
What if a woman simply wants to stay single…does her acceptance of “spinsterhood” mean it doesn’t matter if she has fun during her 20s?
And if a man and woman get married at age 20…she becomes hideous 10 years later…and they remain married til they both die at age 80…would these guys consider that “fair”? After all, in their model, the man took care of the woman for 60 years but only got 10 years of premium sex.
Weird way of viewing relationships, that’s for certain.
The expression ‘females’ is the same as one would use when discussing animals. Therefore, IMO its use shows that women are less than human to these tossers. Not entirely surprising, since the lesson from LaidInNYC’s screed is clearly that women are the property of men.
Ugh.
@Energomash:
This would be more convincing if they weren’t talking about women and calling them animals, toilets, etc.
fuck! i turn 26 in exactly two weeks. does this mean i have to convince mr. baby to marry me NOW, or should i just sperm jack him between now and then?
/snark
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The misogyny is that he believes that a woman’s worth is determined only by her looks. So even if all women look better when they are younger, that wouldn’t mean they are useless when they age.
And a lot of older straight men wouldn’t want to be married to a woman more than ten years younger, because it would put a generational gap in their relationship. That’s not a deal breaker for successful relationships. It’s just that people closer in age are more likely to have more in common, and have common memories.
“Men.” “Girls.” Ick.
Sad little fucks. Dudes, if you can’t form healthy relationships with women, admit it. This pseudo-evo psych shit impresses nobody but your fellow losers. I’ve known plenty of people who honestly weren’t interested in marriage (men and women,) and they didn’t spend any time calculating the optimum marriageable age of the opposite sex. Nor did they try to feel superior by denigrating the opposite sex.
I do love the kitty’s expression in this picture.
Young men are more attractive than older men. What’s misand about that?
*snort*