Some of you may have noticed that I often tag my posts here with the phrase “Men Who Should Not Ever Be With Women Ever.” From time to time I worry that I’m being a tad harsh. After all, not all of these fellas are totally irredeemable, right? Right?
And then I run across some guys for whom my tag is if anything a gross understatement. So today, some Men Who Should Not Ever Be With Women Ever Ever Ever Ever Ever. And our dear old friend Roosh, the woman-hating woman-chaser, heads up the list.
The other day on Roosh’s forum, some twisted asshole posted a link to a news story about two hikers who had been rescued after getting lost in the fog in a state park in Maine — only to drown after accidentally driving off a boat launch on their way out of the park and getting trapped in their minivan.
Oh yeah, they were women.
The commenter on Roosh’s forum thought this was hilarious “proof of the equality of the genders, except when it comes to navigation, opening doors, etc.”
While a few of the commenters reacted like decent human beings and pointed out that this story wasn’t actually funny — raising the question of why they were hanging out on Roosh’s forum in the first place — others joined in with their own “jokes.”
Roosh himself set the tone, seizing on the detail that one of the women had called for help on her cell phone as as the minivan sank.
This is what happens when you create a culture of helpless women dependent on the state for everything.
The LAST thing I would think of in their case is to make a phone call with a car filling with water. Too bad they were idiots, but god gave them a chance at life on the mountain. He just said “fuck it” and let them die.
Regular forum contributor Scorpion added:
I really don’t understand how the fuck it’s possible to drive your car at full speed off a boat ramp and then have your first response be to pull out your fucking cell phone.
It’s a good case study for what happens to women when left to their own devices in a world without men. Completely and utterly helpless in a crisis. Any time something goes wrong, just pick up the phone and call a man to fix it.
Lady, that might work when it’s your basement is filling up with water, but not when it’s the sinking car you’re sitting in.
The death of the unborn baby was like a mercy-kill from God. If they had lived, no doubt the dimwitted mother would have found some other way to kill them both, like leaving the gas on or dropping a radio in the tub while bathing the baby. Amazing she made it to her late 30s. I wonder how many times the men in her life have bailed her out before.
And someone called Divorco offered his two cents as well:
This is not funny, it is a terrible tragedy
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… because an innocent dog died too.
There’s more of this, much more.
And these are men who honestly think they’re inherently superior to women.
I propose we put all of these dudes into cars and drop them in the ocean. We’ll give them a cell phone with an emergency on speed dial, but then they call it it just plays Yakety Sax.
@Cassandrasays You can get little safety hammers especially designed to break toughened glass. Small enough to fit in the glovebox or door pocket. One of my friends who has worked as an accident investigator gave them to all his friends for Christmas, one year, so I’m confident they work.
@ronanwills I propose you fuck off until you can distinguish between cruel and funny.
Because reciprocal vileness is exactly what we’re aiming for here.
That’s right Titianblue! I forgot, but dad has mentioned that too. There’s this special hammer which has like a sharp point where all the force gets focused meaning it can break a car window. Hm… should get me one of those.
Cassandra is right anyway, car windows are made to withstand lots of force in case you crash the car.
Assuming they couldn’t open the window didn’t they do the best thing possible? They knew that opening the door was impossible so conserved energy. Calling for help meant that when they could open the door (after the car was submerged) help might already be there.
This may be slightly OT, but it always bugs me when people describe waterboarding as “simulated drowning”. No, it’s actual drowning, only the process is aborted every time before the person dies. Simulated drowning would be, idk, putting virtual reality goggles on someone and make zir believe that zie fell into water or something.
That’s right, Peartree. I think there’s actually a chance to open the doors again once the car has been fully flooded.
NOPENOPENOPE.
Just nope.
I feel like I can’t breathe just thinking about that. Fuck. It’s totally just as bad if not way worse then dying in a lake or something…
I can’t believe the shit we do to people.
So kind of like an ice-pick? I guess that would work, concentrate the pressure on a small point.
On ronan’s comment…dude, no. I don’t wish death upon people whose views I find repulsive, I just wish that they would rethink their views.
Here’s a pic of such a hammer: http://www.kjell.com/sortiment/el/biltillbehor/bil-apparater-for-resan/sakerhetshammare-p40504
It would be a far more cruel and satisfying punishment if they became feminists and had to re-read all the dumb shit they’ve ever written.
Here’s a guide on what to do if you drive into water. http://www.wikihow.com/Escape-from-a-Sinking-Car According to this guide, it may actually be possible to break a side window by kicking if you manage to kick at the weak spots of the window, although it’s still very difficult. They advise you not to make a phone call. Anyway, even if making a phone call isn’t the all-things-considered best thing to do, that hardly makes people trying it idiots. It’s not like this entire guide is just intuitively obvious.
It was dark, it was foggy, and the road went straight into the water (so people can drive their boats right to it). If anyone has had the misfortune of being stuck on the road during a flash flood, they can tell you that when visibility is seriously impaired, your car can be going through the water on the road before you even see it. We had flash flood conditions here in Wisconsin a few weeks ago, and a main street in Madison got flooded. And it turns out that men are not immune from getting their cars stalled in standing water.
These guys are some serious assholes.
I’d heard this story right on the heels of several other stories of people who’d been saved just to die another way (like the drowning swimmer who was bitten by a shark just as she was being rescued, and the woman who survived that plane crash just to be run over by an emergency vehicle).
QFMFT
Though just becoming any decent kind of person ought to be enough.
May these men never have the misfortune of finding out just how “smart” they are in an emergency. It’s not just sickening commentary, but arrogant on their part to assume they’d do any better. Sure, sitting around on your computer you can look at someone’s failed attempt at escaping a car submerged in a lake and brainstorm ways you’d get out, but in reality there’s this thing called panic. Panicking is not stupidity, neither is not knowing how to escape incredibly rare scenarios. This is the same type of bullshit that they pull against rape victims who they chastise for not fighting back, or fighting hard enough, against their attackers. They just love to tell people what they should have done after the fact when they know that there’s a very low chance that they’ll ever have to prove themselves in the same way.
Total self-awareness is what these guys need – along with an actual working conscience. That would be punishment in itself, as well as stopping them being MRAs.
What always got me with the “oh no, waterboarding’s not torture!” creeps (like a certain genius who had to have it done to him before he could wrap his great manly brain around the concept) is that it’s just water torture with a more weasel-word name. The Spanish Inquisition’s torturers, among others, would recognise it.
There’s a cover of Life magazine from 1902, showing US soldiers torturing a Filipino. In the background various characters representing the colonial powers are chorusing “Those pious Yankees can’t throw stones at us any more.” The more things change …
PS don’t think I exonerate my own country from this. Our governments have dumped Australian citizens overseas to be tortured and imprisoned without trial, or with rigged trials, all for the sake of brown-nosing Dubya and his crew.
This whole thing is just so gross and weird. So utterly gross and weird. I want to have more coherent thoughts, but yeah. I’m going to go with gross and weird.
Our morning paper today, fittingly enough, had an article on drownings. Interview with a representative for the Swedish Rescue Society:
“It’s when boys grow up to men that they’re really at risk. Only in July 19 of the 22 drowning victims belonged to that category.
– Women are smarter, they’re more risk aware and don’t put themselves at risk the way men do. It’s a real male problem that we wanna show off our competence. Older men over-estimate their abilities and it’s incredibly difficult to reach them with information, Anders Wernesten says.
The Rescue Society’s primary advice is not to swim alone, not to swim straight out and to use a life jacket.
– Still, we see boats where the children, the women and the dogs wear life jackets, but not the men.”
On an unrelated note, has anyone seen this incredibly misandristic advert from Barclays. It totally implies that all men are gold digging whores who just use their male friends for money. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfYZZuaCUFA
OT: Another white dude was named Dr. Who. And Moffat mocked Helen Mirren for saying that there should be a woman doctor: “I think a man should play the Queen.”
Yeah, because a character who was specifically written to be constantly changing and able to regenerate into ANYONE and yet who has absurdly remained a white man for fifty years is a totally equivalent comparison. What a douche. I’m officially done with that show.
Roosh is a stupid turd. I wish there was some way for the women he seduces to know, under all his game, that he is a person who spends time on the internet laughing about people who have drowned. I mean, the guy is public with his face – it’s only a matter of time before he gets some notoriety and women start recognising him, right?
Chie, I didn’t understand what Moffat’s comment was about. I thought he meant he wanted a male Queen (rather than a man playing the Queen in fiction). I was wondering why he wasn’t satisfied by the numerous Kings throughout history. I thought the way he did that announcement was kind of insulting. It was almost certain they were going to chose a white man, but the scoffing at anyone who suggested otherwise was unnecessary.
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May these guys get lost in the fog and then rescued by a woman 😛
On Dr Who…I didn’t like the way Davis couldn’t write endings that had consequences, but I honestly didn’t see what the big deal about Moffat’s writing was either. Now I know he is also a bit of a sexist douche I just uuuergh. And I don’t even have a problem with the Dr not being a woman this time (although I wouldn’t have had one if the Dr had regenerated as a non-male character either…some variety would be most welcome and it makes complete in-world sense).