Some of you may have noticed that I often tag my posts here with the phrase “Men Who Should Not Ever Be With Women Ever.” From time to time I worry that I’m being a tad harsh. After all, not all of these fellas are totally irredeemable, right? Right?
And then I run across some guys for whom my tag is if anything a gross understatement. So today, some Men Who Should Not Ever Be With Women Ever Ever Ever Ever Ever. And our dear old friend Roosh, the woman-hating woman-chaser, heads up the list.
The other day on Roosh’s forum, some twisted asshole posted a link to a news story about two hikers who had been rescued after getting lost in the fog in a state park in Maine — only to drown after accidentally driving off a boat launch on their way out of the park and getting trapped in their minivan.
Oh yeah, they were women.
The commenter on Roosh’s forum thought this was hilarious “proof of the equality of the genders, except when it comes to navigation, opening doors, etc.”
While a few of the commenters reacted like decent human beings and pointed out that this story wasn’t actually funny — raising the question of why they were hanging out on Roosh’s forum in the first place — others joined in with their own “jokes.”
Roosh himself set the tone, seizing on the detail that one of the women had called for help on her cell phone as as the minivan sank.
This is what happens when you create a culture of helpless women dependent on the state for everything.
The LAST thing I would think of in their case is to make a phone call with a car filling with water. Too bad they were idiots, but god gave them a chance at life on the mountain. He just said “fuck it” and let them die.
Regular forum contributor Scorpion added:
I really don’t understand how the fuck it’s possible to drive your car at full speed off a boat ramp and then have your first response be to pull out your fucking cell phone.
It’s a good case study for what happens to women when left to their own devices in a world without men. Completely and utterly helpless in a crisis. Any time something goes wrong, just pick up the phone and call a man to fix it.
Lady, that might work when it’s your basement is filling up with water, but not when it’s the sinking car you’re sitting in.
The death of the unborn baby was like a mercy-kill from God. If they had lived, no doubt the dimwitted mother would have found some other way to kill them both, like leaving the gas on or dropping a radio in the tub while bathing the baby. Amazing she made it to her late 30s. I wonder how many times the men in her life have bailed her out before.
And someone called Divorco offered his two cents as well:
This is not funny, it is a terrible tragedy
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… because an innocent dog died too.
There’s more of this, much more.
And these are men who honestly think they’re inherently superior to women.
kittehs, you get it for 6 months of the year, and then you can send it to me.
Slays puusy?
WTF?
I mean WTF? Have some of them had more sexual partners than I? Maybe.
Have any of them had more sex than I have? I seriously doubt it.
Does the amount of sex (or the number of people I’d shared it with) define me? No.
Because (and this is where I win, flat out), I am (and always have been satisfied with my sex life. Which puts me head, and shoulders, above all of them.
I can say that with an absolute certainty, because if there were satisfied they’d not be looking for Roosh to “teach them the secret”.
Dumb Fucks.
And Pecunium weighs in…FTW.
🙂
FTR, pecunium and I were discussing similar things last night, I have no reason to doubt any of that.
Guys, the cheat code? “What would you like?” FUCKING ASK, it’s simple!
I like how the Roosh forum imagines we’re all angry at their notch count, not their stupidity, mildewed souls, and stunted ethics.
I am so glad I wasn’t drinking when I read that. Angry at their “notch count”? Pffft. I give zero fucks, no, really, I’m perfectly happy having a long, LONG, period of zero fucks. And thus give zero fucks how many fucks other people are having. The part where they mock people for fucking drowning? Not. Fucking. Okay. Ditto the morally bankrupt “ethics” of PUA. Seriously, have all the consensual sex you want, just don’t be a fucking asswipe about getting it, note the consensual part.
cloudiah – sweet! I promise to keep it polished. It’s not like I’m not used to wiping catbots (yes I’m looking at you Fribbie).
QFT!
I’d go so far as to say that even when I was at my loneliest, pre getting together with Mr K, I was happier with my sex life, and my life in general, than these chicken droppings are with theirs.
Love it. Even though I read that as “crotch count”. 😛
@kittehserf- I’m sure many of the forum regulars include their own crotches in the notch tally.
It’s really mind boggling that anyone would think a tragic drowning accident is hilariously appropriate fodder for a PUA blog. Most people grasp the concept of human decency in their introductory Welcome To Earth classes and don’t need to have it spelled out. These turds, even when plainly confronted with their scummy behavior, are always like “But we have sex! Girls let us put our pee pees in their no-no holes! So there! Ha ha!”
Roosh is probably doing it to maintain credibility and interest among the bitter acolytes, and revive flagging book sales. His income stream depends on a perpetual doubling down of the douchecanoery. At this point he’s unemployable by any company with access to Google, so he has to keep up the pretense that he’s a successful alpha.
Crotches in the notches makes me think there’s about to be a NSFW version of that song from The Court Jester … on which note, I’m off!
@tenya that reminds me of a friend of mine who pressed charges against her ex bf for rape and abuse recently. There was an article about it online and some jackass decided to use it as a platform to lament about how “easy” it is for women to lie about rape. This devistated my friend who I’d been helping though this for months. I stood up for victims of rape in general, telling him how difficult it actually is and he decided that I must’ve been her, and was obviously lying because I didn’t come across broken enough or something. I wanted to shake this man. How fucking dare he. It’s just sickening how hese people so casually attack people, as if these aren’t real victims, that they won’t read it and be revictimized.
@jessay
human hugs and beagle kisses if you want.
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It’s a strange kind of mind that comes up with the phrase:
in conjunction with slaying pussy.
Let’s imagine for a minute that your number of sex partners directly indicated your worth as a human being. That’s the world we now live in. Presidential elections are now decided by “notch count” (and, obviously, only men can be presidents in this world, that goes without saying). So on, so forth.
So you see someone else, and they say something along the lines of “Oh yeah! I’ve slept with THREE WHOLE FEMALES! They let me do things! With my penis!”.
Here’s the question: How do you feel, in this imaginary hypothetical?
Upset? Annoyed? Cowed? Awed? Surprised?
I can come up with a lot of emotions I might feel, but nowhere in any of that would “rage” or “anger” or “wrath” pop up. Not because I can’t feel angry, but because it’s such a weird, weird thing to jump to. Even in a world where everything was run by notch counts, why would you feel rage at someone else for having more sex than you?
Bees. Bees, my god.
@Argenti
Knowing MRAs, they’d probably say “she killed them both, the government covered it up because THATS HOW DEEP THE MATRIARCHY GOES”
@Kittehs
That looks like a nice footstool.. XD
In real life, I’d be super confused. Like “How does it matter?” In the dystopia you described, I’d be like “that’s not enough to make you president!”
I think I’ll adopt that a a standard response from now on.
“Oh? Thats’s not enough to make you president” works well for many things.
“that’s not enough to make you president!”
John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton would certainly agree with you.
You know what we need around here? A “Know Your Manboobz Meme” page.
The predominant thing I feel when they describe how much ‘pussy they slay’ is… um… I’m concerned. Why are we talking about sex in these violent metaphors that have horrific implications? It sounds like you don’t very much like the women you’ve had sex with. Is that really a the way you’d like to go with this?
hey, I’m a gay girl who couldn’t care how many women they have sex with 😉 and many other people have also chimed in they don’t care, but I’m leaving this here because i”m boring and hyper. Awake for two hours, already had a coffee and a soda, thats a lot of caffeine for me in that time, okay).
@argenti aertheri
So, were those quotes supposed to be making manboobzers look bad? Because this:
Is a pretty valid point. I’ll never understand mras :/ (or roosh’s lackeys? whoever these are.)
@jessay
*offers interweb hugs for you and your friend* That guy sounds like such an ass 🙁
I am more and more convinced that PUA is just a weird role-playing game for them (no offence intended for other roleplayers):
-Weird outfits, check (peacocking);
-Impenetrable jargon, check (kino escalate, closing, HB, etc.);
-Different skills and abilities, check (negs, peacocking, kino escalation, etc.);
-Different classes and ranks (Average Frustrated Chump, Green Pick Up Artist (GPUA), master Pick Up Artist (mPUA), Grand Master PUA (gmPUA), Beta Boy Friend (BBF), Alpha Female of Group (AFOG)) (I kid you not, these are all actual PUA terms);
-An obsession with acronyms, check (see previous point);
-An obsession with numbers and stats, check (HB10, number of approaches/successes/rejections, etc.);
-Obstacles and dungeons to be overcome, check (women, pretty much);
-Loot to obtain, check (phone numbers and various forms of intimate and/or sexual acts);
-Bragging about the loot they got, check check check;
And all of this done without the women’s consent. At best its baffling (“Ho, maiden, thine Charisma is surprisingly high for a half-orc.”) and at worst is very dangerous, because they see it as a game and will do anything to “win”.
@ LBT: nice. I think if I was musical in any way, shape or form, I’d want my band to be called ‘Alpha cock carousel’. Perhaps we could jam together sometime?
@ Marie: why, thank you – I’d hate to make manboobzers look bad! I *think* the Rooshite in question is saying my comment is laughable because Roosh is such a super-alpha that even if everyone knew he spends his refractory periods (in between banging HB8 college girls/imaginary, very poor sex workers) yukking it up on the internet about recent drowning victims, women still wouldn’t reject him because their hindbrains and reproductive systems would be all a-tingle from exposure to his awesome game….? I don’t know why Kittehs and bekkabot’s quotes are supposed to be laughable, though – I can only imagine it’s because ‘oh c’mon guys, laughing about the drowning isn’t THAT BAD – they were only women, amirite?! and it’s the internet so it’s not real anyway and FREE SPEECH makes it okay. now let’s go slay some pussy, maybe just maybe if we work real hard on our game like Roosh said, and slay lots of pussy, we’ll be so happy we won’t even feel the NEED to laugh at tragedies on internet forums.’
RE: CassandraSays
Whatever, I am currently suffering from an attack of hay fever and honestly, pollen is a far more significant inconvenience to me than PUAs are.
This doesn’t work for everybody, and feel free to ignore unwanted health advice, but have you tried eating raw local honey? It really made my seasonal allergies a lot better, and I didn’t learn about it until my twenties.
RE: SredniVashtar
Okay, we can have a battle of the bands. Rage of the White Knights can open for us.
This keeps bemusing me:
Because it fails to get it, on so many levels.
1: They are generalising their desire for sex to everyone.
2 They are assuming they have the “one true way” to get sex.
3: They are assuming they know how much sex people like us have (and with how many partners.
4: They think we give a shit how much sex they have (or with how many partners.
I get it, they have tied their self-worth into the idea that they can get sex with ease.
What that that to me? In various times of my life there have been skills I was working to maintain as some measure of my worth. Generally these were skills that mattered because mastery of them was, in fact something I was being judged on (for 16 years how well I could hit a target between 150-200 meters, in 5-6 seconds, as well as how many ea. of push-ups and sit-ups in a 2 minute period, married to my speed over 2-miles) was important to my ability to get promoted, sent to schools, go on missions, etc.. So I cared about them.
So did other people. I was pretty good at them (in 15 years I never missed a target at 150M). Did that make me, “studly”? Fuck if I know. I’m pretty sure none of the women who chose to sleep with me did it because of that (though there were a few who just liked soldiers, so in some way I suppose you could argue the point).
But so what? Those were things I was being tested on.
This crap? I know how many partners I’ve had. I know what, “exotic” things I’ve done; how many of my fantasies I’ve fulfilled. These yahoos don’t. I may have done things which would make them green with envy. I may be someone who has trouble getting women to pay attention to him. I may be working like blazes to keep them from making untoward advances.
None of it means anything.
And the way they talk about it (this will shock you) leads me to think they aren’t getting what they want: even if they are “drowning in pussy”.
Because if they were, they wouldn’t give a shit.
And they confuse the thing we don’t like (their misogyny, and their hatred/abuse of women) with the thing we don’t care about (how much sex they get to have, and with how many people).
@Pecunium
This keeps bemusing me:
“I’m futilely trying to imagine the rage of these white knights when they realize the Roosh board slays far more pussy than they could even fathom. Life really does a vicious sense of humor.”
I am especially bemused by the strange word choice of “futilely.” Does this mean that, try as he may, he is unable to imagine our rage?
Alice: I think he means to say the level of our (expected) rage is so great that he can’t encompass it.