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Jane Austen and the Rape-Threatening Men

The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.
The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.

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So what sorts of things make some men so furious that they feel the need to send women they’ve never met literal death and rape threats on the internet? It doesn’t take much, apparently. A woman suggesting that it’s not such a good idea to hit on women in elevators at 4 AM. A woman making  videos suggesting that there’s sexism in video games. A woman captured on video telling some men to shut the fuck up. A woman complaining about sexist jokes at a tech conference.

Add to this: a woman campaigning successfully to have Jane Austen’s face put on the Bank of England’s ten pound notes.

Over the past week, writer and activist Caroline Criado-Perez, who organized the campaign to get Austen memorialized on the bank note, has been harassed relentlessly on Twitter by assholes and misogynists and trolls for her efforts. Some of this harassment has taken the form of literal rape and death threats. One 21-year-old Manchester man was arrested and questioned in connection with the threats.

Similar threats and harassment were directed at noted British classics professor Mary Beard and female Members of Parliament.

Here’s a sadly typical example of one of the threatening comments sent to Criado-Perez from an account that Twitter temporarily banned — then reinstated.

https://twitter.com/CCriadoPerez/status/362499703285358592

And a more graphic example:

https://twitter.com/ianmcqui/status/361587787511779328

And some even more graphic threats directed at female MPs.

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361967658087890945

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361964227516309504

For many more examples of messages sent to Criado-Perez and others, see  Catalina Hernández’ blog I Will Not Put Up With This: here, here, here, here, here, here and here.

And if you had any doubt about how little in the way of repercussion most of these harassers expected to get for their threatening tweets, some tweeted using what are presumably their real names. Here are some comments from one Ivan Garcia of San Diego, as collected by Hernández.

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And here is his blog, where this fan of jazz, video games and threatening rape shares his poetry with the world.

The harassment obviously raises a lot of issues,most notably: Why the fuck does this keep happening? And: What’s the best way to deal with this sort of harassment — and these sorts of harassers?

Twitter has promised to add a “report abuse” button; some activists see this as a step in the right direction, while others worry that the “report abuse” button will be itself abused to shut down critics of harassment. Twitter’s record in dealing with harassers has not exactly been a great one; just ask Anita Sarkeesian.

British journalists and assorted bloggers have been trying to sort through some of these issues over the past few days. Here are some links to some of the more interesting pieces, from a variety of perspectives. (Well, I’m not including the pro-rape threat perspective.) Links aren’t necessarily endorsements.

First, for a little more background, see:

Twitter under fire after bank note campaigner is target of rape threats

Twitter faces boycott after ‘inaction’ over rape threats against feminist bank notes campaigner Caroline Criado-Perez

Caroline Criado-Perez Twitter abuse case leads to arrest

And here are some posts and pieces looking at the issues:

A ‘report abuse’ button on Twitter will create more problems than it solves, by Sharon O’Dea

A button will not, alone, rid Twitter (or the wider world) of mysogyny and abuse. These are complex issues that will take more than a button to resolve. But ‘report abuse’ buttons have been known to be widely abused on other networks. ….

Introduction of a similar mechanism on Twitter ironically creates a whole new means by which trolls can abuse those they disagree with. The report abuse button could be used to silence campaigners, like Criado-Perez, by taking advantage of the automatic blocking and account closure such a feature typically offers. In that way, it could end up putting greater power in the trolls’ hands.

Why does it always come back to rape?  by Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett and Holly Baxter of the Vagenda Magazine, in the New Statesman

Rape is the popular choice when women become more visible than they apparently should be, and that’s because it’s easy. …. Whatever their opinion, however they conducted their arguments, however well-researched and nuanced their replies to criticism are, they’re women and male trolls could rape them and that’s what really matters. …

[Academic] Mary Beard got called a “dirty old slut” with a “disgusting vagina” just as [Member of Parliament] Stella Creasy was being tweeted “YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK… I’M GONNA RAPE YOU AT 8PM AND PUT THE VIDEO ALL OVER THE INTERNET”. …

The message is that women’s vaginas are, literally, always up for grabs. If they’re young, the rape threats will come thick and fast; if they’re older, maybe the trolls will settle for insulting their vaginas and telling them that they were “sluts” in the past.

If Every Male Troll Took a Walk in Women’s Shoes, Would He Finally Feel Our Outrage?  by Elizabeth Plank

Withstanding rape threats has become a right of passage for female writers or personalities, just as making them as become a right of passage for cowardly and anonymous misogynist trolls. If you’re a woman who happens to possess opinions, and write about feminist issues (god forbid!), chances are you will be violently trolled. … the issue is not that women receive more criticism than men, but rather that it comes in more violent and vitriolic forms. Men will be attacked for their opinion, whereas women will be threatened because they have opinions.

[O]ne study showed that female usernames in chat forums received 25 times more abuse than male ones. In an experiment conducted by the University of Maryland, researchers found that “Female usernames, on average, received 163 malicious private messages a day.” So all else equal, if you’re a woman online, you’re going to be on the receiving end of more hate.

I believe it. I get a lot of shit from misogynists for running this blog — and the occasional threat — but what I get is nothing compared to the harassment similarly controversial feminist bloggers who happen to be women have gotten.

What women-hating trolls really believe, by Emma Barnett

First troll up was Peter from Whitechapel. …

“She was asking for it,” he told me. According to this nitwit, if you campaign about issues such as keeping a woman on English banknotes, you should “expect to receive rape threats”. I delved further.

“If you put your head above the parapet, like she has, then you deserve this type of abuse. It’s what you get when you are a woman shouting about something,” Peter told me, starting to get a little irate. …

Then Gary from Birmingham decided to call in [and] told me in no uncertain terms that “feminists like Caroline were undermining what it is to be a man” and needed “sorting out”.

“Men are predators,” he explained calmly. “And this [rape threats] is what we do.”

And here, after all this awfulness, is a piece that manages to be funny about it all: How to use the internet without being a total loser.

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dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

Hahahahaha go fuck yourself Quark. You know whose behavior is faaaaaaar from okay? Yours, you apologist for rape and murder threatening thugs.

Also, you don’t get to call me dusty. Full handle or nothing, it’s only polite, oh clutcher-of-pearls.

(Anyone who’s not a trolly troll who should go fuck themselves can call me deste, though, because you guys are awesome and have my blessing to use this approved nickname.)

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Has anyone emailed the Dark Lord about Quark? This wouldn’t be the first time a troll has pulled the long con.

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

Also, I’m so sorry, gillyrosebee. All the biggest of internet hugs to you, should you want them.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

OK, well threatening to stick your finger up someone’s backside counts as a rape threat to me

Sticking up a middle finger is a common cultural shorthand in the wider western world for the phrase “fuck you”. So far as I am aware, it is not understood to be a threat of rape, and your concern trolling is not helping you be taken more seriously here.

tooimpurenangel
11 years ago

@gillyrosebee
Thank you for sharing what happened and I am so sorry.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

Thanks for all the hugs. A fair 98% of the time, I am as over it as you can manage to be. Every so often I get triggered, and our Ms Quark has managed to do so with the concern trolling and the “let me take you to school on something I know nothing about” attitude.

Quark, let me be clear. I’m significantly pissed at you, but I want to believe you are being genuine. Call me an idealist. Can you take a breath and try to see it from a perspective not your own?

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

Where I come from, threatening to take a finger to someone’s backside has very clear meanings, and even if the poster didn’t mean that, they should be a LOT more careful in a thread about internet rape threats!

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

@gillyrosebee – Yes, I can do that, and understand people disagree with me and feel offended *even though it was not my intention to offend*.

Can you take a breath and see there is a difference between unintentionally offending people (which I seem to have done) and intentionally attacking them (which many people in here are doing to me)?

tooimpurenangel
11 years ago

Quark,
Interesting how everybody seemed to understand what I meant but you.
Huh.

Dee
Dee
11 years ago

Gillyrosebee, I’m sorry that happened to you!

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

Where I come from, derailing threads and whining about other people taking death and rape threats seriously has very clear meanings, and even if the poster didn’t mean it, they should go fuck off back to the dank troll-hole from whence they came.

leftwingfox
11 years ago

your ass deserves the most emphatic of middle fingers.

As Archer might say. “um, phrasing.”

(although yeah, that’s a hell of a leap.)

CL
CL
11 years ago

Quark the problem is that once you were told you were being offensive, you doubled down on that behavior.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

CL – I’m not trying to be offensive. Almost everyone else is. There is a big difference.

CL
CL
11 years ago

There is, but not the one you think.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Quark, Intent doesn’t matter as much as impact. Whatever your intent (and to be honest, I’m not inclined to be generous at this point), you have left many of us feeling like you took a shit* on David’s rug. You have triggered people who have experienced violence. You have been petulant, and passive-aggressive. You are doing your best to derail this thread and make it all about you.

*Stealing that from Chie because it’s too perfect.

And that is the last time I will pay any attention to you, Quark.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Aw, everyone’s being mean to poor Quark for no reason.

Yeah, Quark, you really should just go away for a bit and think about why you’ve gotten the reception you have.

cloudiah
11 years ago

So, back to the Jane Austen story… Can anyone imagine MRAs ever pulling anything like that off?

cloudiah
11 years ago

By “anything like that” I don’t mean the death/rape threats, but the activism that led to an actual positive change.

tooimpurenangel
11 years ago

@leftwingfox
Admittedly that was horrendous phrasing but that assumption seems really bizarre to me.

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

Oh Quark, you don’t have to try to be offensive to be offensive. Your intent is not important here, as you’ve still clearly offended… pretty much everyone in this thread.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

cloudiah: I can see them writing a half-assed petition to have Warren Farrell’s face put on the ten, but it going absolutely nowhere.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

Cloudiah – you say I have been “passive-aggressive”. Well, others have been “aggressive-aggressive” – is that better?

Many people on this site have behaved appallingly towards me today, yet all still think they have the upper-hand in appropriate and civilised internet behaviour! I haven’t “taken a shit all over” anybody’s rug by stating an opinion.

As I said before, you should all take a long, hard look at yourselves and wonder whether you aren’t actually part of the problem you claim to despise. Abuse is a sliding scale. What you are doing isn’t as bad as rape and death threats, but it isn’t good either. It is abuse. It is harassment. And it has to stop.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
11 years ago

From the Telegraph article linked by David above:

“She would know these men wouldn’t actually come and rape her. They don’t mean it. Rape is a metaphor.”

This is what Troll #2, Gary from Birmingham had to say. Notice anything, Quark? That’s right, he’s echoing the exact same point you keep making. He started his call with this comment:

Gary, a deep-voiced menacing-sounding man, sat in an eerily quiet home, told me in no uncertain terms that “feminists like Caroline were undermining what it is to be a man” and needed “sorting out”.

This is the kind of person you’re aligned with on this issue. You can keep blundering around, feigning ignorance about why people here are angry with you, but you can’t deny the fact that you are directly echoing what actual abusers say, which is precisely why you’re getting the reaction you are.

Falconer
11 years ago

No, I can’t imagine MRAs actually being effective. It’s too much like work.

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