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Jane Austen and the Rape-Threatening Men

The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.
The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.

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So what sorts of things make some men so furious that they feel the need to send women they’ve never met literal death and rape threats on the internet? It doesn’t take much, apparently. A woman suggesting that it’s not such a good idea to hit on women in elevators at 4 AM. A woman making  videos suggesting that there’s sexism in video games. A woman captured on video telling some men to shut the fuck up. A woman complaining about sexist jokes at a tech conference.

Add to this: a woman campaigning successfully to have Jane Austen’s face put on the Bank of England’s ten pound notes.

Over the past week, writer and activist Caroline Criado-Perez, who organized the campaign to get Austen memorialized on the bank note, has been harassed relentlessly on Twitter by assholes and misogynists and trolls for her efforts. Some of this harassment has taken the form of literal rape and death threats. One 21-year-old Manchester man was arrested and questioned in connection with the threats.

Similar threats and harassment were directed at noted British classics professor Mary Beard and female Members of Parliament.

Here’s a sadly typical example of one of the threatening comments sent to Criado-Perez from an account that Twitter temporarily banned — then reinstated.

https://twitter.com/CCriadoPerez/status/362499703285358592

And a more graphic example:

https://twitter.com/ianmcqui/status/361587787511779328

And some even more graphic threats directed at female MPs.

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361967658087890945

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361964227516309504

For many more examples of messages sent to Criado-Perez and others, see  Catalina Hernández’ blog I Will Not Put Up With This: here, here, here, here, here, here and here.

And if you had any doubt about how little in the way of repercussion most of these harassers expected to get for their threatening tweets, some tweeted using what are presumably their real names. Here are some comments from one Ivan Garcia of San Diego, as collected by Hernández.

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And here is his blog, where this fan of jazz, video games and threatening rape shares his poetry with the world.

The harassment obviously raises a lot of issues,most notably: Why the fuck does this keep happening? And: What’s the best way to deal with this sort of harassment — and these sorts of harassers?

Twitter has promised to add a “report abuse” button; some activists see this as a step in the right direction, while others worry that the “report abuse” button will be itself abused to shut down critics of harassment. Twitter’s record in dealing with harassers has not exactly been a great one; just ask Anita Sarkeesian.

British journalists and assorted bloggers have been trying to sort through some of these issues over the past few days. Here are some links to some of the more interesting pieces, from a variety of perspectives. (Well, I’m not including the pro-rape threat perspective.) Links aren’t necessarily endorsements.

First, for a little more background, see:

Twitter under fire after bank note campaigner is target of rape threats

Twitter faces boycott after ‘inaction’ over rape threats against feminist bank notes campaigner Caroline Criado-Perez

Caroline Criado-Perez Twitter abuse case leads to arrest

And here are some posts and pieces looking at the issues:

A ‘report abuse’ button on Twitter will create more problems than it solves, by Sharon O’Dea

A button will not, alone, rid Twitter (or the wider world) of mysogyny and abuse. These are complex issues that will take more than a button to resolve. But ‘report abuse’ buttons have been known to be widely abused on other networks. ….

Introduction of a similar mechanism on Twitter ironically creates a whole new means by which trolls can abuse those they disagree with. The report abuse button could be used to silence campaigners, like Criado-Perez, by taking advantage of the automatic blocking and account closure such a feature typically offers. In that way, it could end up putting greater power in the trolls’ hands.

Why does it always come back to rape?  by Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett and Holly Baxter of the Vagenda Magazine, in the New Statesman

Rape is the popular choice when women become more visible than they apparently should be, and that’s because it’s easy. …. Whatever their opinion, however they conducted their arguments, however well-researched and nuanced their replies to criticism are, they’re women and male trolls could rape them and that’s what really matters. …

[Academic] Mary Beard got called a “dirty old slut” with a “disgusting vagina” just as [Member of Parliament] Stella Creasy was being tweeted “YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK… I’M GONNA RAPE YOU AT 8PM AND PUT THE VIDEO ALL OVER THE INTERNET”. …

The message is that women’s vaginas are, literally, always up for grabs. If they’re young, the rape threats will come thick and fast; if they’re older, maybe the trolls will settle for insulting their vaginas and telling them that they were “sluts” in the past.

If Every Male Troll Took a Walk in Women’s Shoes, Would He Finally Feel Our Outrage?  by Elizabeth Plank

Withstanding rape threats has become a right of passage for female writers or personalities, just as making them as become a right of passage for cowardly and anonymous misogynist trolls. If you’re a woman who happens to possess opinions, and write about feminist issues (god forbid!), chances are you will be violently trolled. … the issue is not that women receive more criticism than men, but rather that it comes in more violent and vitriolic forms. Men will be attacked for their opinion, whereas women will be threatened because they have opinions.

[O]ne study showed that female usernames in chat forums received 25 times more abuse than male ones. In an experiment conducted by the University of Maryland, researchers found that “Female usernames, on average, received 163 malicious private messages a day.” So all else equal, if you’re a woman online, you’re going to be on the receiving end of more hate.

I believe it. I get a lot of shit from misogynists for running this blog — and the occasional threat — but what I get is nothing compared to the harassment similarly controversial feminist bloggers who happen to be women have gotten.

What women-hating trolls really believe, by Emma Barnett

First troll up was Peter from Whitechapel. …

“She was asking for it,” he told me. According to this nitwit, if you campaign about issues such as keeping a woman on English banknotes, you should “expect to receive rape threats”. I delved further.

“If you put your head above the parapet, like she has, then you deserve this type of abuse. It’s what you get when you are a woman shouting about something,” Peter told me, starting to get a little irate. …

Then Gary from Birmingham decided to call in [and] told me in no uncertain terms that “feminists like Caroline were undermining what it is to be a man” and needed “sorting out”.

“Men are predators,” he explained calmly. “And this [rape threats] is what we do.”

And here, after all this awfulness, is a piece that manages to be funny about it all: How to use the internet without being a total loser.

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cloudiah
11 years ago

would you reveal your real name here?

David knows my real name, and so do a few others that I trust here. I don’t trust you, Quark.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Argent–I’m a little slow today, I’ve succumbed to the crud going around work.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

I simply do not understand why you couldn’t all state your disagreements without resorting to attacks and swearing. That is inexplicable to me. And it’s hypocritical, whether you can see that or admit it or not.

tooimpurenangel
11 years ago

My real name is Slartibartfast=p

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Why won’t we reveal our real names? Oh the irony, it burns.

Because some of the people who make these threats do carry them out.

And now I have to shower before we go out to dinner. Please enjoy your sarcasm while I’m gone!

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

Quark, did you even read anything of what I’ve said? Because I never said that everyone deserves to be treated with the greatest of respect on the internet. I said we shouldn’t condone death and rape threats. So unless you can find somewhere where I’ve threatened to kill or rape you or otherwise threatened your physical safety, you can’t really say I’m being hypocritical here, darling. Unlike you.

Also, for the record, I would totally tell you to go fuck yourself in real life, because you should go fuck yourself.

tooimpurenangel
11 years ago

And Quark, el duderino, I kinda wish this WAS in meatspace because your ass deserves the most emphatic of middle fingers.

cloudiah
11 years ago

My real name is Buttery Hamsters.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

“Why must you all swear? My virgin ears cannot take it, hand me my salts.”

–Quark

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

Ohai, Boobzers! I’ve been so busy with the startup that I’ve only barely been able to keep track of what you’ve all been up to, and I have missed you!

Well, not the trolls, clearly, but everyone else.

hey are just buffoons full of hot air and no real threat to women in real life…

…there is almost certainly no real-life threat…

…I think it is important to realise these threats are not “real”, because otherwise the trolls get what they want…

…My point is that there is not a single documented case that I have ever heard of of someone being threatened with rape or death on the internet then “actually being raped or killed”…

…while we are working to stop it, it is important for victims to be able to feel safe and know realistically they aren’t in any increased danger…

With respect, this attitude is dangerously naive. You may not have experienced the worst consequences that such trolls are capable of bringing about, and you seem to be rather blithe about the very real dangers here.

I once researched and wrote an academic piece, an extended research essay, about a in intersection between the lives of American women in the 1950s and a controversial cultural topic involving the ownership and use of an object considered by some to be strongly gendered. I got a couple of reasoned responses, including one person who pointed out a flaw in my methodology meaning that I probably *underestimated* the correlation I was basing my argument on.

I also got a couple of hundred disgusting and violent messages attacking me for having the temerity to even think about, let alone write about such objects. I reported each and every email to campus security and the police in the city where my apartment was. Campus security was a joke, and though two detectives from the city police came to visit me and run trace software on my computer (this was the early 00s, so pre-twitter) to track the messages and emails, they were unable to do much. They did locate a few of the actual people posting such messages and offered to facilitate my putting in complaints with the local authorities where those individuals lived. I did a few for those living within a city of me, but that was perhaps one percent of the messagers.

Meanwhile, one of my demented little pen pals (not one of the most violent or graphic, surprisingly) began to stalk me. About five months after the messages started rolling in, he waited for me one night, grabbed me off the street, drove me to an empty house and raped me. When I regained consciousness, he slapped and punched me for a while, then raped me again. Sometime afterward, he left me alone and I was able to break a window and get out.

Afterward, the police were able to use his own computer to see all the messages he sent me as well as all the details and data he collected on me and some video and pictures he shot in that house.

For all I know people may think there is a very high chance if an internet threat translating into reality. That’s why I think it is important for people to realise there really isn’t.

“almost 0” chance =/= 0 chance

As Ally pointed out to you, it is difficult to know when such behavior indicates physical danger and for that reason it is entirely logical and reasonable to behave as if there is physical danger within each barrage of threat. Because it is actually, really there, and denying that fact, or handwaving it away is not helpful either for actual or potential victims.

What is important, what is deadly fucking crucial here is not to minimize the very real danger but to form strategies to act even in the face of such danger and to act to stop it. I think you are feeling defensive here because I honestly believe that you mean well and you want to be an advocate and ally.

But I have been there and you are Not. Helping. You are in fact coming across as being dismissive of the violence some of us have “really” experienced, and the reasonable and rational caution we now take.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

My name is H.B. Manatee.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

@ dusty – being attacked on the internet is unpleasant and inappropriate. Some attacks (e.g. being threatened with rape or murder) are worse than others, but that doesn’t make your behaviour OK. Far from it.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

@tooimpure – you have now actually made a rape threat. Great. Thanks.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

gillyrosebee: I am so sorry that happened to you, Jedi Hugs.

tooimpurenangel
11 years ago
Reply to  Quark

Umnmmmm, no no no. That was not what I meant at all.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Quark: STOP being a disingenuous asshole, that was not a rape threat. Come the fuck on.

tooimpurenangel
11 years ago

I meant giving you the finger, NOT anal penetration.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

OK, well threatening to stick your finger up someone’s backside counts as a rape threat to me and I am really, really, seriously and genuinely getting disturbed by this place.

cloudiah
11 years ago

gillyrosebee, All the hugs. That’s terrible.

Michael Søndberg Olsen

I simply do not understand why you couldn’t all state your disagreements without resorting to attacks and swearing. That is inexplicable to me. And it’s hypocritical, whether you can see that or admit it or not.

My name IS my real name and being a prude about fuckin’ explicit expletives will rightly get you nowhere here.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

Oh. Well, I’m sure you can see how that could be very easily misinterpreted. Maybe you should be a little more careful.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

…and I’m not going to post my full name here (or even too many identifying specifics) because after the rapist fuckwad went to jail and got out after only a fraction of his time, he dropped off the grid (and it took his parole officer almost a year to let me know, even though he’d promised that when he got out he was going to find me and kill me).

tooimpurenangel
11 years ago

No, I’m actually not clear as to how that could be misinterpreted.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
11 years ago

So let’s get this straight:

Someone comes here to state an opinion and has absolutely no desire to offend or upset anyone with it.

Other people disagree with that opinion, so that person is bullied, attacked, sworn at and generally harassed until they leave.

Look, you posted bullshit. You were called out on it. And now instead of taking a step back and actually reading what people are telling you, you’ve decided to take over the entire thread. As CL pointed out above, YOU are the one who is trampling boundaries here. You’re a guest (just as we all are), you took a great big shit on the living room rug, and now instead of offering to help clean it up, you’re standing here screaming at anybody who dares to tell you that you shouldn’t shit on the rug.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

OK, well threatening to stick your finger up someone’s backside counts as a rape threat to me and I am really, really, seriously and genuinely getting disturbed by this place.

Now you’re being absurd. You’re smarter than this, right?

But go if you’re so disturbed.

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