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Jane Austen and the Rape-Threatening Men

The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.
The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.

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So what sorts of things make some men so furious that they feel the need to send women they’ve never met literal death and rape threats on the internet? It doesn’t take much, apparently. A woman suggesting that it’s not such a good idea to hit on women in elevators at 4 AM. A woman making  videos suggesting that there’s sexism in video games. A woman captured on video telling some men to shut the fuck up. A woman complaining about sexist jokes at a tech conference.

Add to this: a woman campaigning successfully to have Jane Austen’s face put on the Bank of England’s ten pound notes.

Over the past week, writer and activist Caroline Criado-Perez, who organized the campaign to get Austen memorialized on the bank note, has been harassed relentlessly on Twitter by assholes and misogynists and trolls for her efforts. Some of this harassment has taken the form of literal rape and death threats. One 21-year-old Manchester man was arrested and questioned in connection with the threats.

Similar threats and harassment were directed at noted British classics professor Mary Beard and female Members of Parliament.

Here’s a sadly typical example of one of the threatening comments sent to Criado-Perez from an account that Twitter temporarily banned — then reinstated.

https://twitter.com/CCriadoPerez/status/362499703285358592

And a more graphic example:

https://twitter.com/ianmcqui/status/361587787511779328

And some even more graphic threats directed at female MPs.

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361967658087890945

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361964227516309504

For many more examples of messages sent to Criado-Perez and others, see  Catalina Hernández’ blog I Will Not Put Up With This: here, here, here, here, here, here and here.

And if you had any doubt about how little in the way of repercussion most of these harassers expected to get for their threatening tweets, some tweeted using what are presumably their real names. Here are some comments from one Ivan Garcia of San Diego, as collected by Hernández.

jazzmanivan

And here is his blog, where this fan of jazz, video games and threatening rape shares his poetry with the world.

The harassment obviously raises a lot of issues,most notably: Why the fuck does this keep happening? And: What’s the best way to deal with this sort of harassment — and these sorts of harassers?

Twitter has promised to add a “report abuse” button; some activists see this as a step in the right direction, while others worry that the “report abuse” button will be itself abused to shut down critics of harassment. Twitter’s record in dealing with harassers has not exactly been a great one; just ask Anita Sarkeesian.

British journalists and assorted bloggers have been trying to sort through some of these issues over the past few days. Here are some links to some of the more interesting pieces, from a variety of perspectives. (Well, I’m not including the pro-rape threat perspective.) Links aren’t necessarily endorsements.

First, for a little more background, see:

Twitter under fire after bank note campaigner is target of rape threats

Twitter faces boycott after ‘inaction’ over rape threats against feminist bank notes campaigner Caroline Criado-Perez

Caroline Criado-Perez Twitter abuse case leads to arrest

And here are some posts and pieces looking at the issues:

A ‘report abuse’ button on Twitter will create more problems than it solves, by Sharon O’Dea

A button will not, alone, rid Twitter (or the wider world) of mysogyny and abuse. These are complex issues that will take more than a button to resolve. But ‘report abuse’ buttons have been known to be widely abused on other networks. ….

Introduction of a similar mechanism on Twitter ironically creates a whole new means by which trolls can abuse those they disagree with. The report abuse button could be used to silence campaigners, like Criado-Perez, by taking advantage of the automatic blocking and account closure such a feature typically offers. In that way, it could end up putting greater power in the trolls’ hands.

Why does it always come back to rape?  by Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett and Holly Baxter of the Vagenda Magazine, in the New Statesman

Rape is the popular choice when women become more visible than they apparently should be, and that’s because it’s easy. …. Whatever their opinion, however they conducted their arguments, however well-researched and nuanced their replies to criticism are, they’re women and male trolls could rape them and that’s what really matters. …

[Academic] Mary Beard got called a “dirty old slut” with a “disgusting vagina” just as [Member of Parliament] Stella Creasy was being tweeted “YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK… I’M GONNA RAPE YOU AT 8PM AND PUT THE VIDEO ALL OVER THE INTERNET”. …

The message is that women’s vaginas are, literally, always up for grabs. If they’re young, the rape threats will come thick and fast; if they’re older, maybe the trolls will settle for insulting their vaginas and telling them that they were “sluts” in the past.

If Every Male Troll Took a Walk in Women’s Shoes, Would He Finally Feel Our Outrage?  by Elizabeth Plank

Withstanding rape threats has become a right of passage for female writers or personalities, just as making them as become a right of passage for cowardly and anonymous misogynist trolls. If you’re a woman who happens to possess opinions, and write about feminist issues (god forbid!), chances are you will be violently trolled. … the issue is not that women receive more criticism than men, but rather that it comes in more violent and vitriolic forms. Men will be attacked for their opinion, whereas women will be threatened because they have opinions.

[O]ne study showed that female usernames in chat forums received 25 times more abuse than male ones. In an experiment conducted by the University of Maryland, researchers found that “Female usernames, on average, received 163 malicious private messages a day.” So all else equal, if you’re a woman online, you’re going to be on the receiving end of more hate.

I believe it. I get a lot of shit from misogynists for running this blog — and the occasional threat — but what I get is nothing compared to the harassment similarly controversial feminist bloggers who happen to be women have gotten.

What women-hating trolls really believe, by Emma Barnett

First troll up was Peter from Whitechapel. …

“She was asking for it,” he told me. According to this nitwit, if you campaign about issues such as keeping a woman on English banknotes, you should “expect to receive rape threats”. I delved further.

“If you put your head above the parapet, like she has, then you deserve this type of abuse. It’s what you get when you are a woman shouting about something,” Peter told me, starting to get a little irate. …

Then Gary from Birmingham decided to call in [and] told me in no uncertain terms that “feminists like Caroline were undermining what it is to be a man” and needed “sorting out”.

“Men are predators,” he explained calmly. “And this [rape threats] is what we do.”

And here, after all this awfulness, is a piece that manages to be funny about it all: How to use the internet without being a total loser.

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gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

I’m reading Nightwatch by Sergei Lukyanenko right now

Yes, a thousand times yes! And I rather loved the first movie, the second seemed a bit of a let down (and the subtitles were nowhere near as interesting) but still worth watching.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: Falconer and HowardBannister

Thanks for the feedback. I mean, seriously, I have PLENTY of artistic reference for macho perfection. I don’t get what the deal is. And I mostly filter out all the fandom shit. (If I never see Benedict Cumberbatch’s face ever again…)

Snowdropexplodes pretty much pulled a Hugo before Hugo did. Got keelhauled because of writing a similarly salacious fantasy about prepping for a violent rape, then tried to claim it was due to depression and kink tendencies. People were not amused.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

Er, to clarify, snowdropexplodes actually DID plan out this rape, to the point of bringing a bag of raping gear to the park with the intent to grab a girl there. This wasn’t just a written fantasy, this was actually true shit.

Robert
Robert
11 years ago

In China Mieville’s Un Lun Dun, it starts out with a Chosen One must Fulfill Her Destiny trope, which gets subverted most satisfyingly.
Also, regarding Belgariad and the visit every country on the map shtik, Dianne Wynne Jones wrote the Tough Guide to Fantasyland. It’s a travel guide to the interchangeable fantasy realms mass market fantasy saga epic quests are set in, and it is remarkable how many of the cliches described show up in Belgariad. And then again in Malleoreon.

Falconer
Falconer
11 years ago

Er, to clarify, snowdropexplodes actually DID plan out this rape, to the point of bringing a bag of raping gear to the park with the intent to grab a girl there. This wasn’t just a written fantasy, this was actually true shit.

Oh god, I scrub and I scrub, but I still feel dirty.

@Robert: Aren’t the Belgariad and the Malloreon the same story? Like how the Elenium and the Whatsitium that follows it are the same story, and basically are again the Belgariad writ in 3 volumes with awesome troll gods instead of some magic talking rock?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Oh gods oh gods oh gods. Hugo retold the murder-suicide story. In far more detail. I honestly feel ill. I’m not linking unless you really want, and in that case, it’s on his site, go find it yourself and don’t say I didn’t warn you.

He STILL doesn’t get it. He STILL wants to know what he could’ve done to redeem himself. It was 15 years ago!

I fucking can’t fucking this fucking fucked up fucker.

katz
11 years ago

Ugh, I heard there was a part 2 but I didn’t want to look it up.

Everyone remember to deduct 2 points from his flounce.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

HOW did this guy become the mouthpiece of feminism again?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

It’s bad, real bad. Which is why I’m going to now discuss MoMA.

Starry Night! Those brush strokes! I think I sorta get how he did it, but only sorta. In any case, there’s no corrections, reworkings, errors, nothing. Just curving flowing colors. Basically spent both painting and sculpture floors trying not to misplace pecunium while wandering from one piece to the next. And then the reverse on the photography floor.

They had a, uh, gaming exhibit? Basically? In any case…

Pecunium!! This is the one I said you had to try — http://www.xgenstudios.com/play/flow

And if you can figure out what my brain means by a box atop a box with a gap between it and the wall, your spinning thing is likely there.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

LBT — No. Fucking. Clue. But if we need a straight white cis male feminist mouthpiece, I declared last night that pecunium can have that role if he wants…that ended with a Russian crocodile that sings and him singing along. Or maybe I’m missing a bit there, I was kinda drunk by then, having downed two shots at once when reading Hugo’s “goodbye, you mean feminists”

(But he was definitely singing a Russian birthday song along with a toy crocodile, and I’m fairly sure that would’ve been at least as funny had I been sober)

Nekora
Nekora
11 years ago

I personally really like Raymond E. Feist. But then again, I often like ‘trashy’ bog-standard fantasy. I think he has interesting ideas and good narration, and is a good storyteller in general. But then again, I have to admit, I think it would be hard getting into his work in the middle, if you’re not invested into the characters and the setting. It’s kinda like getting into one of those big long-running animes in the middle of the series without watching the first few seasons. It’s almost impossible to do.

I also kinda like Terry Goodkind as an author, though I hate his politics and ideology. There was one book (I forget which; probably Faith of the Fallen?) where I had a hard time getting through it due to the aformentioned enlightened self-interested hero smashing the evil fantasy communist and its bald-faced objectivist bullshit. I can often forgive authors for having stupid politics when it’s not too bad. I still like Heinlein, for example, even though his ideology is fucking awful. I can usually kinda just ignore the stupid allegorical bullshit and just accept the fantasy world for what it is, when I get into the story, especially for fantasy settings. I can swallow the idea of gods and prayer, good and evil as objective cosmic forces, etc, in fantasy settings, even though I think none of that is valid at all in real life. So I can often just go into ‘suspension of disbelief’ mode and ignore the stupid ‘real world’ point the author is trying to make if his ideology sucks. I have to admit that Terry Goodkind did strain to cross my personal line though. He didn’t quite make it, and I still like his stories. For me, the line is Orson Scott Card (who makes apologies for all sorts of awful behavior, up to and including genocide on sentient species, as long as the right side is doing it), and C.S. Lewis (who is so Jesus-soaked that I just can’t read it at all).

It’s kinda like how I can still like Robert Jordan, even though gender-essentialist bullshit is baked into the entire premise of his overarching story.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Don’t read Goodbye 2 if you’ve eaten.

FUCK HUGO. Maybe this is too much speculation, but he reads like one of those guys who goes from relationship to relationship, never taking the time to realize he’s the common denominator to why they go south. He’d probably say he loves women, but the vibe his writing gives, he fucking hates us.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Ignoring the Hugo ickiness…the Nightwatch and Daywatch movies were pretty great, and got the feeling right better than any current Hollywood director other than Del Toro is capable of, imo.

Robert
Robert
11 years ago

Falconer – you are correct regarding Belgariad and Malleorean. He even included plot points indicating that characters were becoming aware that events were following an established sequence, and explaining it in-story using the Prophecy trope. Haven’t read the Elenium – although apparently I have without knowing.

lurker
lurker
11 years ago

Possible trigger warnings

Ugh, why did I read that story…

Who in the world writes down a story about how he tried to kill a woman – sprinkled full of things like describing her orgasming and his erection – and then reads it and goes “yup, this should convince people that I think my actions there were horrible”???

Even worse, according to the commenters, the first version of this oh so romantic story that went up had the victims real name in it. He changed it later on, but kept in all the identifying details like her dad being well known in that particular small city, at what time she was working in the only strip club in the area and what she was studying at the time that he was trying to “take away her pain” (this is seriously how he describes him trying to kill her).
I’ve heard many bad things about him (including people talking about the original story), but reading his romaticized retellling and then his ending it with “and after 15 years of no consequences people suddenly didn’t want to work with me anymore!! wahhh wahhh!” is still pretty shocking in how callous it is.

pecunium
11 years ago

LBT: I’m having a fight with someone on tumblr. So I have to know, do you guys feel you have been harmed by the prevalance of pretty boys in art? What are your opinions on this? Does it bother you?

No. What a silly idea.

It’s not as if there is a some vast pressure on men to conform to some hopelessly ideal form of masculine appearance.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Nope, not reading the second Hugo not-pology. It was already too obvious that he was wanking as he wrote the first version.

(Not very Christian, that.)

kittehserf
11 years ago

I enjoyed the first three Feist books; I liked Arutha and Pug. One thing about them that annoyed me was the way he mixes ordinary Western names with made-up ones. Especially when it’s something like Kevin in Servant of the Empire. The three Empire books were definitely better written. Janny Wurts has some good books; I liked Sorceror’s Legacy and Master of Whitestorm, though the latter was way too grim in parts.

kittehserf
11 years ago

LBT – I wonder how that Tumblr person would cope with seeing this seventeenth-century self portrait, aka Young Man Lying on a Bed with a Cat? He’s quite pretty, yet somehow men seem to have survived four centuries since then.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

I’m not sure I like the look that cat’s giving him.

kittehserf
11 years ago

I’m not sure I like the look that cat’s giving him.

“Why are you lying here painting instead of feeding me?”

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

That Hugo. Fucking. Schwyzer. post…triple however bad you imagine it and stir in a heaping spoonful of “pity the gelf” (for the non-Whovians — DO NOT PITY THE GILF)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

GUYS!!! Heartise has taken this chance to threaten us!

“Hugo Schwyzer’s meltdown is spectacular, and befitting a man of his craven stature. Be warned manboobs and ilk: your doom is preordained” twitter by @heartise

Either he’s got a hate-on for some other manboobs or…*cracks up*

kittehserf
11 years ago

Every time I see “gelf” I think of the Gelflings in The Dark Crystal.