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So what sorts of things make some men so furious that they feel the need to send women they’ve never met literal death and rape threats on the internet? It doesn’t take much, apparently. A woman suggesting that it’s not such a good idea to hit on women in elevators at 4 AM. A woman making videos suggesting that there’s sexism in video games. A woman captured on video telling some men to shut the fuck up. A woman complaining about sexist jokes at a tech conference.
Add to this: a woman campaigning successfully to have Jane Austen’s face put on the Bank of England’s ten pound notes.
Over the past week, writer and activist Caroline Criado-Perez, who organized the campaign to get Austen memorialized on the bank note, has been harassed relentlessly on Twitter by assholes and misogynists and trolls for her efforts. Some of this harassment has taken the form of literal rape and death threats. One 21-year-old Manchester man was arrested and questioned in connection with the threats.
Similar threats and harassment were directed at noted British classics professor Mary Beard and female Members of Parliament.
Here’s a sadly typical example of one of the threatening comments sent to Criado-Perez from an account that Twitter temporarily banned — then reinstated.
https://twitter.com/CCriadoPerez/status/362499703285358592
And a more graphic example:
https://twitter.com/ianmcqui/status/361587787511779328
And some even more graphic threats directed at female MPs.
https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361967658087890945
https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361964227516309504
For many more examples of messages sent to Criado-Perez and others, see Catalina Hernández’ blog I Will Not Put Up With This: here, here, here, here, here, here and here.
And if you had any doubt about how little in the way of repercussion most of these harassers expected to get for their threatening tweets, some tweeted using what are presumably their real names. Here are some comments from one Ivan Garcia of San Diego, as collected by Hernández.
And here is his blog, where this fan of jazz, video games and threatening rape shares his poetry with the world.
The harassment obviously raises a lot of issues,most notably: Why the fuck does this keep happening? And: What’s the best way to deal with this sort of harassment — and these sorts of harassers?
Twitter has promised to add a “report abuse” button; some activists see this as a step in the right direction, while others worry that the “report abuse” button will be itself abused to shut down critics of harassment. Twitter’s record in dealing with harassers has not exactly been a great one; just ask Anita Sarkeesian.
British journalists and assorted bloggers have been trying to sort through some of these issues over the past few days. Here are some links to some of the more interesting pieces, from a variety of perspectives. (Well, I’m not including the pro-rape threat perspective.) Links aren’t necessarily endorsements.
First, for a little more background, see:
Twitter under fire after bank note campaigner is target of rape threats
Caroline Criado-Perez Twitter abuse case leads to arrest
And here are some posts and pieces looking at the issues:
A ‘report abuse’ button on Twitter will create more problems than it solves, by Sharon O’Dea
A button will not, alone, rid Twitter (or the wider world) of mysogyny and abuse. These are complex issues that will take more than a button to resolve. But ‘report abuse’ buttons have been known to be widely abused on other networks. ….
Introduction of a similar mechanism on Twitter ironically creates a whole new means by which trolls can abuse those they disagree with. The report abuse button could be used to silence campaigners, like Criado-Perez, by taking advantage of the automatic blocking and account closure such a feature typically offers. In that way, it could end up putting greater power in the trolls’ hands.
Why does it always come back to rape? by Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett and Holly Baxter of the Vagenda Magazine, in the New Statesman
Rape is the popular choice when women become more visible than they apparently should be, and that’s because it’s easy. …. Whatever their opinion, however they conducted their arguments, however well-researched and nuanced their replies to criticism are, they’re women and male trolls could rape them and that’s what really matters. …
[Academic] Mary Beard got called a “dirty old slut” with a “disgusting vagina” just as [Member of Parliament] Stella Creasy was being tweeted “YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK… I’M GONNA RAPE YOU AT 8PM AND PUT THE VIDEO ALL OVER THE INTERNET”. …
The message is that women’s vaginas are, literally, always up for grabs. If they’re young, the rape threats will come thick and fast; if they’re older, maybe the trolls will settle for insulting their vaginas and telling them that they were “sluts” in the past.
If Every Male Troll Took a Walk in Women’s Shoes, Would He Finally Feel Our Outrage? by Elizabeth Plank
Withstanding rape threats has become a right of passage for female writers or personalities, just as making them as become a right of passage for cowardly and anonymous misogynist trolls. If you’re a woman who happens to possess opinions, and write about feminist issues (god forbid!), chances are you will be violently trolled. … the issue is not that women receive more criticism than men, but rather that it comes in more violent and vitriolic forms. Men will be attacked for their opinion, whereas women will be threatened because they have opinions.
[O]ne study showed that female usernames in chat forums received 25 times more abuse than male ones. In an experiment conducted by the University of Maryland, researchers found that “Female usernames, on average, received 163 malicious private messages a day.” So all else equal, if you’re a woman online, you’re going to be on the receiving end of more hate.
I believe it. I get a lot of shit from misogynists for running this blog — and the occasional threat — but what I get is nothing compared to the harassment similarly controversial feminist bloggers who happen to be women have gotten.
What women-hating trolls really believe, by Emma Barnett
First troll up was Peter from Whitechapel. …
“She was asking for it,” he told me. According to this nitwit, if you campaign about issues such as keeping a woman on English banknotes, you should “expect to receive rape threats”. I delved further.
“If you put your head above the parapet, like she has, then you deserve this type of abuse. It’s what you get when you are a woman shouting about something,” Peter told me, starting to get a little irate. …
Then Gary from Birmingham decided to call in [and] told me in no uncertain terms that “feminists like Caroline were undermining what it is to be a man” and needed “sorting out”.
“Men are predators,” he explained calmly. “And this [rape threats] is what we do.”
And here, after all this awfulness, is a piece that manages to be funny about it all: How to use the internet without being a total loser.
Nope, nothing would get me watching Big Brother.
Hah, weaklings. I made it as far as Naked Empire.
Then I felt sick for days, and mildly confused, had a black out while trying to forget and woke up somewhere in Spain with a replica long sword and the words “Evil Pacifists” scribbled on my chest.
Now I don’t read Terry Goodkind.
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I’m fond of Terry Pratchett, and recently finished Men At Arms for the… 50th time.
I’ve copied the various book suggestions here and placed a large order at the library.
Thanks a lot, people.
Love Pratchett – the Watch books and Death ones in particular. Vimes’s stories just get better as they go along.
Has anyone else played the Discworld adventure games? I downloaded the first one and it’s wicked hard.
gillybeerose — I gave up trying and should probably just crash for the night as I’m the last one up. About three shots in I declared that pecunium could be the face of male feminism though, that’d work for me, fuck Hugo Fucking Schwyzer.
Feminists drove him to being suicidal? No dude, no. Even if more or less true — that the feminist push back is more than you can take to a suicidal degree. You don’t go publicly blaming other people. Particularly not when you’re as hated and narcissistic as he is.
And now I’m going to bed, g’night y’all!
G’night, Argenti.
I’m finally feeling un-depressed enough to have updated my blog. The only reason anyone should care is that Shiraz is funny: http://artistryforfeminismandkittens.wordpress.com/2013/08/01/mra-history-lesson-part-2-pre-prehistory/
Well, shit. There I was thinking “oh, I haven’t been on Manboobz for a few days, let’s go check it out… This article is interesting, let’s look at the thr-HOLY SHIT.”
I read the whole thing. I have a headache. I don’t even know what I should comment on. I need some brain bleach STAT.
I want a bull terrier so bad you guys.
Oh that doggie video… This is one that similarly made me melt:
G’night all.
I’ll never eat bacon again.
‘Night cloudiah!
I’ve loved bull terriers since I read The Incredible Journey as a kid. I <3 Bodger!
They are my favourite dog breed, such cute and silly dogs!
Regarding Brave New World, I found it pretty annoying. Firstly, having a society that completely depends on everyone doing drugs all the time and that faces chaos as soon as the drug supply is cut off is just plain stupid. Secondly, the Savage was annoying as hell. Thirdly, I had the feeling that the author intended for us to sympathize with this dude (don’t remember his name right now, since it was some time since I read it) who, in the beginning of the novel, falls seriously in luuuuuuurve with a woman who merely wants to fuck him and who’s totally on board with the BNW society and it’s lifestyle. But really, that dude was shallow as fuck. He luuuuuuurves this woman merely because she’s hot, since they have absolutely nothing in common. The woman in question was much more honest. She wanted to be high on soma all the time, fuck around and not think, and that’s what she did, while this dude went around thinking about himself as being so much more profound and better than everyone else, when really he wasn’t.
The only vaguely sympathetic person in the novel was this super alpha male (who’s name I’ve also forgotten) who goes into exile in the end.
Regarding Save The Pearls… It just seems incredibly stupid and full of racist fail. It’s not that I think a story with racism against whites is necessarily stupid. For instance, Philip K Dick’s “the man in the high castle” takes place in an alternate world where Japan beat the US in WWII. Generally, asians are regarded as being better than whites in the US in this world, but it’s mostly pretty subtle, you know, like real racism usually is. For instance, lots of the American-dwelling Japanese collect Disney-stuff and other Americana, but it gradually becomes apparent that they’re looking down at it while appreciating it… You know, they think it’s interesting because it comes from the primitive, emotional whites, it’s so much more emotional art than Japanese art…
I think stories where the roles are reversed can be eye-opening, but then it’s gotta be well done.
Yikes threads like this one are the reason why I can’t keep up! I have this compulsion to read it all, because I swear to god that every time I do I learn something new from you guys. For example, I didn’t know that adding a little vinegar to my rice cooker would keep the rice from clumping. That is frigging awesome.
Man I do not think that that Quark person is sincere at all…I really got Obsidian Files vibes from their writing style. I mean I could be totally off base, but after reading through everything, I just psychically feel that. Not to toot my own horn or anything but I do tend to have these very “Twilight Zone” moments of pychic ability sometimes and yeah that’s what I got from them. For what it’s worth, as a newcomer myself, I really hope that nobody here ever forgets to let me have it if I step over any lines. I would consider it a supremely healthy opportunity for personal growth if I get called out for something.
I played (and beat) the first two, but I admit doing a lot of “let’s try everything with everything”. ^^;
Oh, I wish I had stopped there.
I read ALL THE WAY TO THE END.
THEY’RE STILL IN MY HOUSE.
I THINK I NEED TO HAVE A BOOK-BURNING.
If we’re voting for most boring rather than most offensive, Terry Brooks. Why is that guy so successful? Books shouldn’t make you want to take a nap.
Only one of his I’ve read was the Sword of Shannara. I couldn’t believe anyone could get away with plagiarising Tolkien so blatantly, and so badly. (I’ve had the whole “but mythology!” line of argument put by a friend, but I’m not buying it.)
Plus art by the brothers Hildebrandt – ::hurl::
I thought the Belgarion books by Eddings were super boring. He drew this map of his world, and then made up plot contrivances so that the main characters would have to visit every country on the map. If they hadn’t been in one of the countries yet, you knew that something would happen to force them to go there soon. There was this prophecy that was invoked as a really lazy way to explain everything – “oh, that happened because Prophecy, just like everything else happened because Prophecy”. There was this completely bland main character and an annoying bimbo princess, and you knew all along that they were gonna end up together for NO other reason than them being of roughly the same age and opposite genders, and sure enough, at the end of the last book, suddenly they’re getting married, although having had zero chemistry up to that point.
If I had started at book one today I would never had finished the entire series since it was so boring, but I read these books at a much younger age where I was willing to waste my time on crap for the sole reason of seeing things through to the end.
Any dude who refers to his affair as being “off-brand” is a weapons-grade sleaze bag and should fuck off forever.
Bye Hugo, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Should we throw Hugo a goodbye party just to make sure he doesn’t change his mind? It’s hilarious how petulant he’s being about the whole thing. Who’d ever have thought that feminists would hold a little thing like attempted murder against him!
I loved the part where he called the reported back in under five minutes. Attention beg much?
I wonder who the affair was with (mainly because I’m nosy). He alluded to it being someone in feminist circles, I know who my guess is.
I’m down with a “Bon Voyage, Hugo” party.
I’m disappointed in the taste of whoever had an affair with Hugo. Seriously, why would you do that? He’s so smarmy.
Regardless, it’s been time for him to go for a while.
@ CassandraSays and Kittehserf:
Oh thank god, I’m not alone!!! It took me two tries and a lot of hectoring to make it through “Sword of Shannara”. In between that, I read “Magic Kingdom for sale – sold!” which was awfully bland, especially after having read Asprin, Green and Pratchett.
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Also, nice to see H f’n S finally take a hint. Wonder if he’ll stick the flounce, or go full meltdown.
My only exposure to Terry Brooks’s work was the Shannara videogame*, seems like fortunately, which is memorable because it was the first game that actually made me want to kill a party member (only female character, and forced “love interest”)… then I had to and the game tried to sell it as a big personal tragedy. Nope. Not buying it. I’m an awful human being! It wasn’t the poor girl’s fault that she was badly written and annoying!
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannara_%28video_game%29 I play(ed) a lot of point-and-click adventure games (even if this one tried to blend that with CRPG. Badly.).