Categories
actual activism advocacy of violence all about the menz antifeminism harassment hate men who should not ever be with women ever misogyny no girls allowed oppressed white men rape culture rape jokes sexual harassment threats twitter

Jane Austen and the Rape-Threatening Men

The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.
The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.

NOTE: Today is Day Two of the Man Boobz Pledge Drive. If you haven’t already, please consider clicking the little button below and sending some bucks my way.

Thanks! (And thanks again to all who’ve already donated.) Now back to our regularly scheduled programming:

So what sorts of things make some men so furious that they feel the need to send women they’ve never met literal death and rape threats on the internet? It doesn’t take much, apparently. A woman suggesting that it’s not such a good idea to hit on women in elevators at 4 AM. A woman making  videos suggesting that there’s sexism in video games. A woman captured on video telling some men to shut the fuck up. A woman complaining about sexist jokes at a tech conference.

Add to this: a woman campaigning successfully to have Jane Austen’s face put on the Bank of England’s ten pound notes.

Over the past week, writer and activist Caroline Criado-Perez, who organized the campaign to get Austen memorialized on the bank note, has been harassed relentlessly on Twitter by assholes and misogynists and trolls for her efforts. Some of this harassment has taken the form of literal rape and death threats. One 21-year-old Manchester man was arrested and questioned in connection with the threats.

Similar threats and harassment were directed at noted British classics professor Mary Beard and female Members of Parliament.

Here’s a sadly typical example of one of the threatening comments sent to Criado-Perez from an account that Twitter temporarily banned — then reinstated.

https://twitter.com/CCriadoPerez/status/362499703285358592

And a more graphic example:

https://twitter.com/ianmcqui/status/361587787511779328

And some even more graphic threats directed at female MPs.

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361967658087890945

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361964227516309504

For many more examples of messages sent to Criado-Perez and others, see  Catalina Hernández’ blog I Will Not Put Up With This: here, here, here, here, here, here and here.

And if you had any doubt about how little in the way of repercussion most of these harassers expected to get for their threatening tweets, some tweeted using what are presumably their real names. Here are some comments from one Ivan Garcia of San Diego, as collected by Hernández.

jazzmanivan

And here is his blog, where this fan of jazz, video games and threatening rape shares his poetry with the world.

The harassment obviously raises a lot of issues,most notably: Why the fuck does this keep happening? And: What’s the best way to deal with this sort of harassment — and these sorts of harassers?

Twitter has promised to add a “report abuse” button; some activists see this as a step in the right direction, while others worry that the “report abuse” button will be itself abused to shut down critics of harassment. Twitter’s record in dealing with harassers has not exactly been a great one; just ask Anita Sarkeesian.

British journalists and assorted bloggers have been trying to sort through some of these issues over the past few days. Here are some links to some of the more interesting pieces, from a variety of perspectives. (Well, I’m not including the pro-rape threat perspective.) Links aren’t necessarily endorsements.

First, for a little more background, see:

Twitter under fire after bank note campaigner is target of rape threats

Twitter faces boycott after ‘inaction’ over rape threats against feminist bank notes campaigner Caroline Criado-Perez

Caroline Criado-Perez Twitter abuse case leads to arrest

And here are some posts and pieces looking at the issues:

A ‘report abuse’ button on Twitter will create more problems than it solves, by Sharon O’Dea

A button will not, alone, rid Twitter (or the wider world) of mysogyny and abuse. These are complex issues that will take more than a button to resolve. But ‘report abuse’ buttons have been known to be widely abused on other networks. ….

Introduction of a similar mechanism on Twitter ironically creates a whole new means by which trolls can abuse those they disagree with. The report abuse button could be used to silence campaigners, like Criado-Perez, by taking advantage of the automatic blocking and account closure such a feature typically offers. In that way, it could end up putting greater power in the trolls’ hands.

Why does it always come back to rape?  by Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett and Holly Baxter of the Vagenda Magazine, in the New Statesman

Rape is the popular choice when women become more visible than they apparently should be, and that’s because it’s easy. …. Whatever their opinion, however they conducted their arguments, however well-researched and nuanced their replies to criticism are, they’re women and male trolls could rape them and that’s what really matters. …

[Academic] Mary Beard got called a “dirty old slut” with a “disgusting vagina” just as [Member of Parliament] Stella Creasy was being tweeted “YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK… I’M GONNA RAPE YOU AT 8PM AND PUT THE VIDEO ALL OVER THE INTERNET”. …

The message is that women’s vaginas are, literally, always up for grabs. If they’re young, the rape threats will come thick and fast; if they’re older, maybe the trolls will settle for insulting their vaginas and telling them that they were “sluts” in the past.

If Every Male Troll Took a Walk in Women’s Shoes, Would He Finally Feel Our Outrage?  by Elizabeth Plank

Withstanding rape threats has become a right of passage for female writers or personalities, just as making them as become a right of passage for cowardly and anonymous misogynist trolls. If you’re a woman who happens to possess opinions, and write about feminist issues (god forbid!), chances are you will be violently trolled. … the issue is not that women receive more criticism than men, but rather that it comes in more violent and vitriolic forms. Men will be attacked for their opinion, whereas women will be threatened because they have opinions.

[O]ne study showed that female usernames in chat forums received 25 times more abuse than male ones. In an experiment conducted by the University of Maryland, researchers found that “Female usernames, on average, received 163 malicious private messages a day.” So all else equal, if you’re a woman online, you’re going to be on the receiving end of more hate.

I believe it. I get a lot of shit from misogynists for running this blog — and the occasional threat — but what I get is nothing compared to the harassment similarly controversial feminist bloggers who happen to be women have gotten.

What women-hating trolls really believe, by Emma Barnett

First troll up was Peter from Whitechapel. …

“She was asking for it,” he told me. According to this nitwit, if you campaign about issues such as keeping a woman on English banknotes, you should “expect to receive rape threats”. I delved further.

“If you put your head above the parapet, like she has, then you deserve this type of abuse. It’s what you get when you are a woman shouting about something,” Peter told me, starting to get a little irate. …

Then Gary from Birmingham decided to call in [and] told me in no uncertain terms that “feminists like Caroline were undermining what it is to be a man” and needed “sorting out”.

“Men are predators,” he explained calmly. “And this [rape threats] is what we do.”

And here, after all this awfulness, is a piece that manages to be funny about it all: How to use the internet without being a total loser.

1K Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
cloudiah
11 years ago

I loved Crime and Punishment. It’s been years since I read it.

Anyone here read any Knut Hamsun? I loved his writing, but the fact that he became a Nazi is hard to stomach. (I didn’t know that when I read both Hunger & Growth of the Soil, both of which I picked up on a whim in a used book store.)

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

Yes, you are disagreeing with me. You are also being rude and abusive.

However, this is not trolling, which was my point.

oraclenine (@Oraclenine)

Presently working my way through John McPhee’s “Annals of the Former World”, which I have loved since I first read parts of it during a cross-country move.

Just finished “The Ocean At The End Of The Lane”, by Gaiman. Got it signed when he spoke in our city and he drew a ghostie on the page as well. Casting around for my next fiction read, considering Saladin Ahmed’s “Throne Of The Crescent Moon”.

It’s also nearly time to pick a new car book*- I read aloud to my spousal unit on long drives and it’s my turn to choose the book. Possibly “Beautifully Unique Sparkleponies” by Chris Kluwe, that would be fun.

*As opposed to books we keep in the car- state histories, guides to various parks and/or wildlife or geology therein. We’re book people and some stuff still isn’t available on an e-reader. Of course, we also have e-readers because books are heavy and it solves the packing two or more books everywhere we go because what if I finish this one and don’t have something to read?!? I am the grandchild of a librarian and two teachers, it’s in my blood.

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

Wah wah, people saying bad words to me is abuse!

Said no adult who was then taken seriously ever.

katz
11 years ago

Anyone else notice that Dostoevsky has a thing for tall, dark, and handsome protagonists?

leftwingfox
11 years ago

Loved Redwall, mostly because I’m a sucker for talking animals. These days the Mouse Guard graphic novels have taken that over.

I’m ashamed to say I’m not reading anything at the moment. Too much to do; and I have no self control when reading. I blame my mother; We both end up reading until 3-4 in the morning.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

Meh. I didn’t hate Jane Austen, but I fell long and hard for the Bronte sisters first, so that affects my attitude.

Though am I alone in finding Northanger Abbey quite funny, actually?

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

@ gillyrosebee – I cannot control how others receive my apology.

It was genuine, but I can’t force you to believe that. If you really were engaging with me in good faith, then you would give me the benefit of any doubt and accept my apology.

But you haven’t, and instead keep nit-picking at me, which is why I say, you are determined to be unpleasant.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Can I just tell you a funny story about myself & reading? Here goes. I was on a plane, reading a good book. I can’t remember what book it was, just that I was really enjoying it. We hit an air pocket or something, and the plane dropped super fast, and then went straight into terrible turbulence, bouncing all around, luggage spilling from overhead compartments. Since I am a nervous flyer, I immediately assumed we were crashing. My first thought was, “But I won’t get to finish my book!”

Yes, cloudiah sometimes has weird priorities.

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

The book club I’m kind of ostensibly part of is reading Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep this month, so I’m debating whether I’ll pick that up and actually go to a meeting finally.

katz
11 years ago

Trollerskates: If you post a couple of comments about the OP and then spend four pages whining about how people are treating you, it gives the impression that you actually just wanted to talk about yourself and your feelings and how people should treat you. Which, if the other people didn’t want to have a conversation all about you, which is a surety, will not lead to people falling over each other to engage you on your terms.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

@ katz – sorry, but trying to shame me out of sticking up for myself against bullies won’t work.

katz
11 years ago

Ooh, Mouse Guard is great! Very much a spiritual successor to Redwall but I think it’s better realized.

katz
11 years ago

Shame you? But I didn’t use a single swear word!

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

Shaming someone is completely different to swearing at them, Obviously.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

@cloudiah, Watership Down is FUCKING AWSOME!!!!!11!!!!1!!1!!!

It’s one of my favorite books, actually, and I’ve returned to it again and again. I actually got paid for a litaray piece I did once comparing WD to The Odyssey and I wrote my English AP thesis on the various political theories embodied by the different rabbit warrens. There is so much there, so many layers of great narrative. When you finish, I recommend The Plague Dogs, though I suggest waiting until you are feeling in a pretty happy place, as it is OMG so sad at the end!

Briznecko
Briznecko
11 years ago

One time I was reading a biography of Groucho Marx on a late evening flight. Most of the cabin was dark and the passengers around me were napping. At one point I was so absorbed in my book that at one of Groucho’s choice and hilarious comments in the book I laughed out loud in a VERY quiet cabin. I got alot of weird stares after that, but I feel like I also earned some kind of an awesome nerd badge as well.

chibigodzilla
11 years ago

@ gillyrosebee – I cannot control how others receive my apology.

It was genuine, but I can’t force you to believe that. If you really were engaging with me in good faith, then you would give me the benefit of any doubt and accept my apology.

But you haven’t, and instead keep nit-picking at me, which is why I say, you are determined to be unpleasant.

So I repeat, what did you do that necessitated an apology?

Michael Søndberg Olsen

“Shaming someone is completely different to swearing at them, Obviously.”.
So if I tell you to fuck off and feel no shame in doing so, you’ll disappear? DEAL!

MordsithJ
MordsithJ
11 years ago

Nothing bad about swearing. My doctor recommends it as a migraine reduction technique 😉

That’s a good doctor. Would you believe I was once chastised by a fucking medic while I was in a fucking ambulance suffering from fucking anaphylactic shock? Apparently it’s not okay to swear when you feel like you’re fucking dying.

katz
11 years ago

Shall I take that as an admission that you did show up with the original intent of talking about yourself, then? Of course obviously you did whether you admit it or not.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

@ Chi – Uhh…. Apologised?

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

“Shaming someone is completely different to swearing at them, Obviously.”.
So if I tell you to fuck off and feel no shame in doing so, you’ll disappear? DEAL!

It doesn’t seem to work, unfortunately… I assure you I’ve felt no shame in doing so.
Fuckin’ repeatedly.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

@ katx – uhh,,,, No. You should take it as an admission that I’m not a doormat and I don’t let people attack me endlessly without standing up for myself. Bullies hate it when you do that, don’t they?

cloudiah
11 years ago

You guys! There’s apparently an oddly dense spot in the universe.

Do you think that’s where trolls go when David bans them?

1 16 17 18 19 20 41