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Jane Austen and the Rape-Threatening Men

The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.
The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.

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So what sorts of things make some men so furious that they feel the need to send women they’ve never met literal death and rape threats on the internet? It doesn’t take much, apparently. A woman suggesting that it’s not such a good idea to hit on women in elevators at 4 AM. A woman making  videos suggesting that there’s sexism in video games. A woman captured on video telling some men to shut the fuck up. A woman complaining about sexist jokes at a tech conference.

Add to this: a woman campaigning successfully to have Jane Austen’s face put on the Bank of England’s ten pound notes.

Over the past week, writer and activist Caroline Criado-Perez, who organized the campaign to get Austen memorialized on the bank note, has been harassed relentlessly on Twitter by assholes and misogynists and trolls for her efforts. Some of this harassment has taken the form of literal rape and death threats. One 21-year-old Manchester man was arrested and questioned in connection with the threats.

Similar threats and harassment were directed at noted British classics professor Mary Beard and female Members of Parliament.

Here’s a sadly typical example of one of the threatening comments sent to Criado-Perez from an account that Twitter temporarily banned — then reinstated.

https://twitter.com/CCriadoPerez/status/362499703285358592

And a more graphic example:

https://twitter.com/ianmcqui/status/361587787511779328

And some even more graphic threats directed at female MPs.

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361967658087890945

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361964227516309504

For many more examples of messages sent to Criado-Perez and others, see  Catalina Hernández’ blog I Will Not Put Up With This: here, here, here, here, here, here and here.

And if you had any doubt about how little in the way of repercussion most of these harassers expected to get for their threatening tweets, some tweeted using what are presumably their real names. Here are some comments from one Ivan Garcia of San Diego, as collected by Hernández.

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And here is his blog, where this fan of jazz, video games and threatening rape shares his poetry with the world.

The harassment obviously raises a lot of issues,most notably: Why the fuck does this keep happening? And: What’s the best way to deal with this sort of harassment — and these sorts of harassers?

Twitter has promised to add a “report abuse” button; some activists see this as a step in the right direction, while others worry that the “report abuse” button will be itself abused to shut down critics of harassment. Twitter’s record in dealing with harassers has not exactly been a great one; just ask Anita Sarkeesian.

British journalists and assorted bloggers have been trying to sort through some of these issues over the past few days. Here are some links to some of the more interesting pieces, from a variety of perspectives. (Well, I’m not including the pro-rape threat perspective.) Links aren’t necessarily endorsements.

First, for a little more background, see:

Twitter under fire after bank note campaigner is target of rape threats

Twitter faces boycott after ‘inaction’ over rape threats against feminist bank notes campaigner Caroline Criado-Perez

Caroline Criado-Perez Twitter abuse case leads to arrest

And here are some posts and pieces looking at the issues:

A ‘report abuse’ button on Twitter will create more problems than it solves, by Sharon O’Dea

A button will not, alone, rid Twitter (or the wider world) of mysogyny and abuse. These are complex issues that will take more than a button to resolve. But ‘report abuse’ buttons have been known to be widely abused on other networks. ….

Introduction of a similar mechanism on Twitter ironically creates a whole new means by which trolls can abuse those they disagree with. The report abuse button could be used to silence campaigners, like Criado-Perez, by taking advantage of the automatic blocking and account closure such a feature typically offers. In that way, it could end up putting greater power in the trolls’ hands.

Why does it always come back to rape?  by Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett and Holly Baxter of the Vagenda Magazine, in the New Statesman

Rape is the popular choice when women become more visible than they apparently should be, and that’s because it’s easy. …. Whatever their opinion, however they conducted their arguments, however well-researched and nuanced their replies to criticism are, they’re women and male trolls could rape them and that’s what really matters. …

[Academic] Mary Beard got called a “dirty old slut” with a “disgusting vagina” just as [Member of Parliament] Stella Creasy was being tweeted “YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK… I’M GONNA RAPE YOU AT 8PM AND PUT THE VIDEO ALL OVER THE INTERNET”. …

The message is that women’s vaginas are, literally, always up for grabs. If they’re young, the rape threats will come thick and fast; if they’re older, maybe the trolls will settle for insulting their vaginas and telling them that they were “sluts” in the past.

If Every Male Troll Took a Walk in Women’s Shoes, Would He Finally Feel Our Outrage?  by Elizabeth Plank

Withstanding rape threats has become a right of passage for female writers or personalities, just as making them as become a right of passage for cowardly and anonymous misogynist trolls. If you’re a woman who happens to possess opinions, and write about feminist issues (god forbid!), chances are you will be violently trolled. … the issue is not that women receive more criticism than men, but rather that it comes in more violent and vitriolic forms. Men will be attacked for their opinion, whereas women will be threatened because they have opinions.

[O]ne study showed that female usernames in chat forums received 25 times more abuse than male ones. In an experiment conducted by the University of Maryland, researchers found that “Female usernames, on average, received 163 malicious private messages a day.” So all else equal, if you’re a woman online, you’re going to be on the receiving end of more hate.

I believe it. I get a lot of shit from misogynists for running this blog — and the occasional threat — but what I get is nothing compared to the harassment similarly controversial feminist bloggers who happen to be women have gotten.

What women-hating trolls really believe, by Emma Barnett

First troll up was Peter from Whitechapel. …

“She was asking for it,” he told me. According to this nitwit, if you campaign about issues such as keeping a woman on English banknotes, you should “expect to receive rape threats”. I delved further.

“If you put your head above the parapet, like she has, then you deserve this type of abuse. It’s what you get when you are a woman shouting about something,” Peter told me, starting to get a little irate. …

Then Gary from Birmingham decided to call in [and] told me in no uncertain terms that “feminists like Caroline were undermining what it is to be a man” and needed “sorting out”.

“Men are predators,” he explained calmly. “And this [rape threats] is what we do.”

And here, after all this awfulness, is a piece that manages to be funny about it all: How to use the internet without being a total loser.

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grumpycatisagirl
grumpycatisagirl
11 years ago

I’m looking forward to the movie Austenland. The trailer looks very funny. Maybe I should also read the book (anyone here done so?)

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

Hellkell, feel free! I stole it from a friend myself, haha. I find it to be an excellent term to remind my beta money-slave and provider of bonbons of his place in life, that being as a decorative and lovely man butt for me to look upon for my own sordid pleasure (though the word itself has sort of degenerated to huzbuzz or buzzbuzz recently)

(/sarcasm on that last sentence, btw)

cloudiah
11 years ago

Librarian fist bumps all around, even to the non-librarians. In fact, I hereby deputize all the good people of this comment thread as librarians-for-the-day. (Please leave re-shelving to the professionals, however.)

AK
AK
11 years ago

Ah, Lovecraft. I so love him, yet so hate him. He definitely had a gift for horror, yet was a horrible bigot. I settle for figuring he’s long dead and I can enjoy his non-racist stories, right? 🙁

@katz, Northanger Abbey is my favorite Austen book too. I can’t really get into her more earnest stuff, but I thought that was really funny.

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

I don’t know about freemage, but I consider myself to be a cunning linguist 😛

saintnick86
saintnick86
11 years ago

However, this is not “someone else’s space”, unless you mean David, who has not commented on this thread.

This is a public blog, open to anyone he allows to comment on it, which includes me. It is not your blog. You have no more rights here than I do, and no rights to abuse or attack me or anyone else just because you have “been here longer”.

Dude, get over yourself. David runs the blog – it’s his. He simply allows others to respond but he’s willing to moderate or ban you, which he has every right to do with the webspace he owns.

Jesus fucking Christ, does every excuse these days involve FREEZE PEACH? As if saying that makes you immune to criticism? It doesn’t. In fact, freedom of speech is two-way and involves people being able to criticize what someone had said. The difference with the reactions shown in the post is that they are threatening bodily harm – which is always out of line. Someone calling you an idiot is allowed, it’s not abuse.

Funny, that: people who yell the most about “free speech” are also the ones who don’t understand how it works. They’ll claim their opinions – no matter how repulsive – are “free speech” one moment, only to then whine about “censorship” when someone bothers to call them out bluntly instead of sugar-coating it for their over-sensitive ego. Oh, and apparently it also doesn’t count as “free speech” if said person doesn’t like what someone else says. Commenting that comedians shouldn’t use rape jokes so readily? CENSORSHIP! Observing the fact a videogame objectifies female characters? ALSO CENSORSHIP! ‘Cause, y’know, it’s convenient for intellectually cretinous types…

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

@gillyrosebee – I did not say women should not take the threats too seriously, ever.

I said the people making them should be exposed, punished and potentially jailed. That is hardly “not taking them seriously”.

I think you are projecting certain beliefs and ideologies onto me that I don’t have, cherry-picking comments and taking them out of context, and not engaging with my argument as a whole.

Many people here are mean. No, there is no law compelling them to be nice, but decent people who care about the feelings of others are. The endless swearing and vulgar commentary is rude, unedifying and unnecessary.

If people’s feelings matter on the internet, then they matter. That includes mine, since I am a person. But many people here have their head in the and cannot see they are doing exactly what they excuse others of – dehumanising people to justify abusing them.

I can’t stop them. But I can object and not be bullied into silence.

katz
11 years ago

Is trollersons gone? No flounce at all. I am very disappointed.

Michael Søndberg Olsen

I am currently reading Dostoevsky.

What of his in particular? Because I always heard them damn russians had such dense prose and you can’t really get it… The I read about the brothers Karamozov, which is actually easy reading and a good crime novel.

freemage
11 years ago

AK: That’s how I’m ultimately going to enjoy Ender’s Game–after the homophobic shit of an author is safely interred in the Earth. If that means I have to wait forty more years, so be it.

Briznecko
Briznecko
11 years ago

I LOVED North and South by Elizabeth Gaskell! I’m actually stuck for my next book…I can’t decide if I want to finally read Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle or FINALLY pick up Austen’s Norhanger Abbey. Hmm…

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

@ saintnick – Christ, can’t you even read the posts you quote? Yes it is DAVID’S space, that is exactly what I said. Not yours and not anyone else’s, and the only person – the only one – who has any right to censor me or demand I leave is him.

You might want to get over YOURself.

katz
11 years ago

Retroactive troll summoning! I don’t know my own power.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

None of you appear to know the definition of the world trolling. Hint: it’s not someone who dares to disagree with you and stand up for themselves.

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

@katz, nope, still here, still whining about HOW HORRIBLE AND MEAN we all are.

freemage
11 years ago

Michael Olsen: I’d also recommend Leo Tolstoi. I loved Ivan the Fool.

Michael Søndberg Olsen

Quark, are you attempting perfomance art, now? Because it isn’t nearly as good as Tilda Swinton sleeping in a glass case.

katz
11 years ago

Michael: Started with Brothers K, now reading C&P. I found the former very engaging, although the latter is indeed quite dense. But still good.

Briznecko: The Jungle is gross. Northanger Abbey is funny. How is this even a choice?

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

Michael, nope, but thanks for asking.

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

None of you appear to know the definition of the world trolling. Hint: it’s not someone who dares to disagree with you and stand up for themselves.

And yet, that’s exactly what we’re all doing here, fucker. Disagreeing with you, fucking vehemently in some cases, and standing up for ourselves and our opinions, and against yours, which are fucking awful and ill-informed. Also still recommending that you go on and fuck off.

freemage
11 years ago

And once I’m done with Dick, I’m going to be reading Ocean at the End of the Lane–Neil Gaiman’s latest.

sarahlizhousespouse
11 years ago

“Librarian fist bumps all around, even to the non-librarians. In fact, I hereby deputize all the good people of this comment thread as librarians-for-the-day. (Please leave re-shelving to the professionals, however.)”

If I get a full 24 hours of being a deputy librarian I will be happy as a hippo!

Side note: I’m reading Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad right now. It’s a tough read for me.

katz
11 years ago

I can’t imagine why nobody wants to hang out with the person who thinks that you can’t have any say in what a community is like unless you’re actually in charge.

Briznecko
Briznecko
11 years ago

Ha! Good point katz. Mainly I’m trying to stick to the books I currently have on my bookshelf and those two looked the most seductive. Or there is the biography of Louise Nevelson

I hate this moment, I am SO INDECISIVE when picking a new book, especially after I just finished a really good one.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

It was not “self-justifying”. You are just determined to be unpleasant to me at any cost.

When you say you are “sorry if” people were offended (when you know you have offended people and they have explained to you why and how your comments were offensive) that is an “ifpology” and it does not constitute an actual apology.

When you say you are sorry to offend but then point out how horrible other people are treating you in the same or in the next sentence, that is hedging your apology by using apologetic text to again refocus on your feelings, instead of on the feelings of others who you hurt with your behavior. It does not constitute an actual apology.

I would just like to point out that I began explicitly dealing with you in good faith, and I said in my very first post that

I think you are feeling defensive here because I honestly believe that you mean well and you want to be an advocate and ally.

Explain to me how that means that I am determined to be unpleasant to you, please?

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