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Jane Austen and the Rape-Threatening Men

The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.
The face that launched a thousand threatening tweets.

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So what sorts of things make some men so furious that they feel the need to send women they’ve never met literal death and rape threats on the internet? It doesn’t take much, apparently. A woman suggesting that it’s not such a good idea to hit on women in elevators at 4 AM. A woman making  videos suggesting that there’s sexism in video games. A woman captured on video telling some men to shut the fuck up. A woman complaining about sexist jokes at a tech conference.

Add to this: a woman campaigning successfully to have Jane Austen’s face put on the Bank of England’s ten pound notes.

Over the past week, writer and activist Caroline Criado-Perez, who organized the campaign to get Austen memorialized on the bank note, has been harassed relentlessly on Twitter by assholes and misogynists and trolls for her efforts. Some of this harassment has taken the form of literal rape and death threats. One 21-year-old Manchester man was arrested and questioned in connection with the threats.

Similar threats and harassment were directed at noted British classics professor Mary Beard and female Members of Parliament.

Here’s a sadly typical example of one of the threatening comments sent to Criado-Perez from an account that Twitter temporarily banned — then reinstated.

https://twitter.com/CCriadoPerez/status/362499703285358592

And a more graphic example:

https://twitter.com/ianmcqui/status/361587787511779328

And some even more graphic threats directed at female MPs.

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361967658087890945

https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361964227516309504

For many more examples of messages sent to Criado-Perez and others, see  Catalina Hernández’ blog I Will Not Put Up With This: here, here, here, here, here, here and here.

And if you had any doubt about how little in the way of repercussion most of these harassers expected to get for their threatening tweets, some tweeted using what are presumably their real names. Here are some comments from one Ivan Garcia of San Diego, as collected by Hernández.

jazzmanivan

And here is his blog, where this fan of jazz, video games and threatening rape shares his poetry with the world.

The harassment obviously raises a lot of issues,most notably: Why the fuck does this keep happening? And: What’s the best way to deal with this sort of harassment — and these sorts of harassers?

Twitter has promised to add a “report abuse” button; some activists see this as a step in the right direction, while others worry that the “report abuse” button will be itself abused to shut down critics of harassment. Twitter’s record in dealing with harassers has not exactly been a great one; just ask Anita Sarkeesian.

British journalists and assorted bloggers have been trying to sort through some of these issues over the past few days. Here are some links to some of the more interesting pieces, from a variety of perspectives. (Well, I’m not including the pro-rape threat perspective.) Links aren’t necessarily endorsements.

First, for a little more background, see:

Twitter under fire after bank note campaigner is target of rape threats

Twitter faces boycott after ‘inaction’ over rape threats against feminist bank notes campaigner Caroline Criado-Perez

Caroline Criado-Perez Twitter abuse case leads to arrest

And here are some posts and pieces looking at the issues:

A ‘report abuse’ button on Twitter will create more problems than it solves, by Sharon O’Dea

A button will not, alone, rid Twitter (or the wider world) of mysogyny and abuse. These are complex issues that will take more than a button to resolve. But ‘report abuse’ buttons have been known to be widely abused on other networks. ….

Introduction of a similar mechanism on Twitter ironically creates a whole new means by which trolls can abuse those they disagree with. The report abuse button could be used to silence campaigners, like Criado-Perez, by taking advantage of the automatic blocking and account closure such a feature typically offers. In that way, it could end up putting greater power in the trolls’ hands.

Why does it always come back to rape?  by Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett and Holly Baxter of the Vagenda Magazine, in the New Statesman

Rape is the popular choice when women become more visible than they apparently should be, and that’s because it’s easy. …. Whatever their opinion, however they conducted their arguments, however well-researched and nuanced their replies to criticism are, they’re women and male trolls could rape them and that’s what really matters. …

[Academic] Mary Beard got called a “dirty old slut” with a “disgusting vagina” just as [Member of Parliament] Stella Creasy was being tweeted “YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK… I’M GONNA RAPE YOU AT 8PM AND PUT THE VIDEO ALL OVER THE INTERNET”. …

The message is that women’s vaginas are, literally, always up for grabs. If they’re young, the rape threats will come thick and fast; if they’re older, maybe the trolls will settle for insulting their vaginas and telling them that they were “sluts” in the past.

If Every Male Troll Took a Walk in Women’s Shoes, Would He Finally Feel Our Outrage?  by Elizabeth Plank

Withstanding rape threats has become a right of passage for female writers or personalities, just as making them as become a right of passage for cowardly and anonymous misogynist trolls. If you’re a woman who happens to possess opinions, and write about feminist issues (god forbid!), chances are you will be violently trolled. … the issue is not that women receive more criticism than men, but rather that it comes in more violent and vitriolic forms. Men will be attacked for their opinion, whereas women will be threatened because they have opinions.

[O]ne study showed that female usernames in chat forums received 25 times more abuse than male ones. In an experiment conducted by the University of Maryland, researchers found that “Female usernames, on average, received 163 malicious private messages a day.” So all else equal, if you’re a woman online, you’re going to be on the receiving end of more hate.

I believe it. I get a lot of shit from misogynists for running this blog — and the occasional threat — but what I get is nothing compared to the harassment similarly controversial feminist bloggers who happen to be women have gotten.

What women-hating trolls really believe, by Emma Barnett

First troll up was Peter from Whitechapel. …

“She was asking for it,” he told me. According to this nitwit, if you campaign about issues such as keeping a woman on English banknotes, you should “expect to receive rape threats”. I delved further.

“If you put your head above the parapet, like she has, then you deserve this type of abuse. It’s what you get when you are a woman shouting about something,” Peter told me, starting to get a little irate. …

Then Gary from Birmingham decided to call in [and] told me in no uncertain terms that “feminists like Caroline were undermining what it is to be a man” and needed “sorting out”.

“Men are predators,” he explained calmly. “And this [rape threats] is what we do.”

And here, after all this awfulness, is a piece that manages to be funny about it all: How to use the internet without being a total loser.

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cloudiah
11 years ago

neuroticbeagle, Abso-fucking-lutely. I love beagles!

PJ
PJ
11 years ago

Quark

If you’ve been reading threads for a while, why are you so astonished at the swearing?

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

Okay, strike two. One more shot.

Quark, this can be a rough and tumble, sometimes downright rude place. That’s okay, if it isn’t to your taste no one will hold that against you. There is nothing here like the behavior David’s post details, and trying to make a comparison between them is not going to help you be taken seriously.

I do think that your problems began with your first post, because you said this:

But just to reassure women who doubtless feel threatened by this – there is almost certainly no real-life threat.

The fact is that you can’t know exactly how much threat really exists here, and to assert that there is “almost certainly no real-life threat” is factually not correct.

In some cases it’s ‘merely’ (I say that not because the toll it takes is any less horrible but because it is the ‘best’ that one can hope for in such a situation) a barrage of violent and threatening comments. In some cases, women are doxxed and have their personal information shared with a wider range of trolls so that more people can be directed to her digital and actual location. In some cases, trolls will mount an assault against the employer of a woman who has raised their ire, or against her financial supporters, so that she is in danger of losing her job or her funding. In plenty of cases, even though you may not have heard of them, women are stalked, beaten, raped and even murdered.

In the face of all the above very real danger, waving away the threat as imaginary (what is directly implied when someone says that it is not “real-life”) both leaves people unprepared for the dangers they may really, actually face, and sets them up to not adequately protect themselves from the possibility of harm.

As I pointed out, an amount higher than zero does not equal zero. Your framing of the issue was dismissive of the real, actual possibility of harm, and when you were challenged on that, you pushed back suggesting that you were right and everyone else was not (or that we just didn’t understand that you actually were right, or whatever).

I just don’t see how it is helpful to anyone to live in a state of paralysed terror. It is always better to feel safe.

This is a false dichotomy. Taking risk seriously does not mean that one will be “paralysed” by fear, and it is insulting to suggest that either one must wave off the rantings and ravings of trolls or one risks ‘letting the terrorists win’.

It is only good to feel safe if you actually *are* safe. To be safe, rather than just whistling past the graveyard and trying to *feel* safe, we need to take danger seriously and plan accordingly.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

The WP is thing is beyond annoying.

OK, so who’s bring what to the Shame and Lipstick slumber party? I’ll bring some wine, nail polish, and cheesy 80s music.

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Mmm, “I’ll stay til I’m banned”, “why are you anonymous, tell me your real name”, “why do you swear so much, Hellkell”. Who does that sound like?

dustydeste
dustydeste
11 years ago

Guess what, Quark, I’m not trying to be polite or eloquent, and the only constructive thing I’m trying to accomplish with my fucking language is to get you, you fucker, to fuck yourself and get the fuck off this fucking thread. We’re all fucking sick of you, and I don’t think my fucking point could be any fucking clearer, you fucking fuck.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

titianblue: it sounds like OF.

Ally S
11 years ago

It’s not polite, it’s not constructive, it’s not eloquent… It’s BAD.

When people swear out of contempt, they aren’t trying to be polite in the first place. Nor is the point of swearing to make a conversation more constructive. It’s nothing more than another way of expressing one’s feelings.

Of course it’s unnecessary in the sense that a point can be conveyed without swearing, but most people don’t want to just dryly convey their points without a hint of emotion.

neuroticbeagle
11 years ago

“Are you also against dark sarcasm in the classroom?”

We don’t need no education
We don’t need thought control

So FUCK off trolls! 😛

leftwingfox
11 years ago

Well fuck. I’m sorry I tried to be polite for so long.

Hyena Girl
Hyena Girl
11 years ago

Yes, “Bad Language” as defined historically as “language used by the lower classes of society”. But then that’s not the point here, we left that point several miles back.

Rape threats leveled against women who dare to advance opinions in the public sphere, that’s the original topic.

Quark’s original response was (roughly translated, correct me if I’m wrong) “They should just toughen up and get over themselves because those making rape threats will never go through with them, never.”

tooimpurenangel
11 years ago

Dark sarcasm was the best part of school for me =D

chibigodzilla
11 years ago

If you don’t see calling someone an asshole and telling them to fuck off as, er, bad then really… What can I say? It’s not polite, it’s not constructive, it’s not eloquent… It’s BAD.

Okay then, try this on for size.

“You are a acting like a childish imbecile and you should leave this thread and never come back.”

Better?

Ally S
11 years ago

“Well fuck. I’m sorry I tried to be polite for so long.”

SHAME ON YOU!

=P

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

“the only constructive thing I’m trying to accomplish with my fucking language is to get you, you fucker, to fuck yourself and get the fuck off this fucking thread. We’re all fucking sick of you, and I don’t think my fucking point could be any fucking clearer, you fucking fuck.”

I see. Just to be clear, does everyone second this?

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

I’m just going to leave this here:

titianblue
titianblue
11 years ago

Nothing bad about swearing. My doctor recommends it as a migraine reduction technique 😉

I have more Pimms & some homemade blackcurrant icecream. Party Time!

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

I second deste’s motion for fucking off.

seraph4377
11 years ago

I always feel like such a fool for trying to warn them. 95+% of the time, it’s just some troll who knows damn well what they’re doing wrong (as appears to be the case here). The remaining 5>% they just don’t listen.

Quark
Quark
11 years ago

Hyena Girl, now you are trolling. You are very wrong about my original post and you know it.

Howard Bannister
11 years ago

I’m amazed that somebody who was telling women who are the recipients of ongoing harassment campaigns to toughen up and grow a thicker skin is so thin-skinned.

Wait, no I’m not.

cloudiah
11 years ago

I’m not high profile enough to get rape or death threats, but I did once get called a c*nt by three different people on Reddit on the same day. I was quite proud of myself for that. 😀

I’ll make pizza at the slumber party. What toppings do people like? I like to do pesto with cherry tomatoes, and then toss some arugula on top when it comes out of the oven. (That way you can’t see the cheese, so I can pretend it’s a perfectly healthy salad.)

tooimpurenangel
11 years ago

Motion thirded.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

My swearing spirit guide:

oraclenine (@Oraclenine)

So, using ‘bad language’ at Quark is bad and we should feel bad but people who get graphic violent threats of rape and death should just remember it probably isn’t too serious and go about their lives?

Fuck that shit.

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