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So what sorts of things make some men so furious that they feel the need to send women they’ve never met literal death and rape threats on the internet? It doesn’t take much, apparently. A woman suggesting that it’s not such a good idea to hit on women in elevators at 4 AM. A woman making videos suggesting that there’s sexism in video games. A woman captured on video telling some men to shut the fuck up. A woman complaining about sexist jokes at a tech conference.
Add to this: a woman campaigning successfully to have Jane Austen’s face put on the Bank of England’s ten pound notes.
Over the past week, writer and activist Caroline Criado-Perez, who organized the campaign to get Austen memorialized on the bank note, has been harassed relentlessly on Twitter by assholes and misogynists and trolls for her efforts. Some of this harassment has taken the form of literal rape and death threats. One 21-year-old Manchester man was arrested and questioned in connection with the threats.
Similar threats and harassment were directed at noted British classics professor Mary Beard and female Members of Parliament.
Here’s a sadly typical example of one of the threatening comments sent to Criado-Perez from an account that Twitter temporarily banned — then reinstated.
https://twitter.com/CCriadoPerez/status/362499703285358592
And a more graphic example:
https://twitter.com/ianmcqui/status/361587787511779328
And some even more graphic threats directed at female MPs.
https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361967658087890945
https://twitter.com/JonathanHaynes/status/361964227516309504
For many more examples of messages sent to Criado-Perez and others, see Catalina Hernández’ blog I Will Not Put Up With This: here, here, here, here, here, here and here.
And if you had any doubt about how little in the way of repercussion most of these harassers expected to get for their threatening tweets, some tweeted using what are presumably their real names. Here are some comments from one Ivan Garcia of San Diego, as collected by Hernández.
And here is his blog, where this fan of jazz, video games and threatening rape shares his poetry with the world.
The harassment obviously raises a lot of issues,most notably: Why the fuck does this keep happening? And: What’s the best way to deal with this sort of harassment — and these sorts of harassers?
Twitter has promised to add a “report abuse” button; some activists see this as a step in the right direction, while others worry that the “report abuse” button will be itself abused to shut down critics of harassment. Twitter’s record in dealing with harassers has not exactly been a great one; just ask Anita Sarkeesian.
British journalists and assorted bloggers have been trying to sort through some of these issues over the past few days. Here are some links to some of the more interesting pieces, from a variety of perspectives. (Well, I’m not including the pro-rape threat perspective.) Links aren’t necessarily endorsements.
First, for a little more background, see:
Twitter under fire after bank note campaigner is target of rape threats
Caroline Criado-Perez Twitter abuse case leads to arrest
And here are some posts and pieces looking at the issues:
A ‘report abuse’ button on Twitter will create more problems than it solves, by Sharon O’Dea
A button will not, alone, rid Twitter (or the wider world) of mysogyny and abuse. These are complex issues that will take more than a button to resolve. But ‘report abuse’ buttons have been known to be widely abused on other networks. ….
Introduction of a similar mechanism on Twitter ironically creates a whole new means by which trolls can abuse those they disagree with. The report abuse button could be used to silence campaigners, like Criado-Perez, by taking advantage of the automatic blocking and account closure such a feature typically offers. In that way, it could end up putting greater power in the trolls’ hands.
Why does it always come back to rape? by Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett and Holly Baxter of the Vagenda Magazine, in the New Statesman
Rape is the popular choice when women become more visible than they apparently should be, and that’s because it’s easy. …. Whatever their opinion, however they conducted their arguments, however well-researched and nuanced their replies to criticism are, they’re women and male trolls could rape them and that’s what really matters. …
[Academic] Mary Beard got called a “dirty old slut” with a “disgusting vagina” just as [Member of Parliament] Stella Creasy was being tweeted “YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR BACK… I’M GONNA RAPE YOU AT 8PM AND PUT THE VIDEO ALL OVER THE INTERNET”. …
The message is that women’s vaginas are, literally, always up for grabs. If they’re young, the rape threats will come thick and fast; if they’re older, maybe the trolls will settle for insulting their vaginas and telling them that they were “sluts” in the past.
If Every Male Troll Took a Walk in Women’s Shoes, Would He Finally Feel Our Outrage? by Elizabeth Plank
Withstanding rape threats has become a right of passage for female writers or personalities, just as making them as become a right of passage for cowardly and anonymous misogynist trolls. If you’re a woman who happens to possess opinions, and write about feminist issues (god forbid!), chances are you will be violently trolled. … the issue is not that women receive more criticism than men, but rather that it comes in more violent and vitriolic forms. Men will be attacked for their opinion, whereas women will be threatened because they have opinions.
[O]ne study showed that female usernames in chat forums received 25 times more abuse than male ones. In an experiment conducted by the University of Maryland, researchers found that “Female usernames, on average, received 163 malicious private messages a day.” So all else equal, if you’re a woman online, you’re going to be on the receiving end of more hate.
I believe it. I get a lot of shit from misogynists for running this blog — and the occasional threat — but what I get is nothing compared to the harassment similarly controversial feminist bloggers who happen to be women have gotten.
What women-hating trolls really believe, by Emma Barnett
First troll up was Peter from Whitechapel. …
“She was asking for it,” he told me. According to this nitwit, if you campaign about issues such as keeping a woman on English banknotes, you should “expect to receive rape threats”. I delved further.
“If you put your head above the parapet, like she has, then you deserve this type of abuse. It’s what you get when you are a woman shouting about something,” Peter told me, starting to get a little irate. …
Then Gary from Birmingham decided to call in [and] told me in no uncertain terms that “feminists like Caroline were undermining what it is to be a man” and needed “sorting out”.
“Men are predators,” he explained calmly. “And this [rape threats] is what we do.”
And here, after all this awfulness, is a piece that manages to be funny about it all: How to use the internet without being a total loser.
Passes round the Pimms & a load of glasses – help yourselves peeps.
It seems strange to me that we all accept that sending a threatening letter should be (and is, here) illegal. And that we expect that the police and the Mail will take it seriously and deal with it as such when it happens, hopefully tracking down and prosecuting the perp.
And I know from a close friend’s experience that both police and British Telecom (the landline phone company, non-Brits) take abusive anonymous phone calls extremely seriously, employ all the technology at their disposal and prosecute strongly.
So why is it so hard to for some people to see that Twitter is a direct parallel, just a different medium?
Jesus, I don’t even know what “tone trolling” is, but if I have done such a thing, I apologise.
This debate is getting tired, but let’s sum:
You don’t agree with my perspective, and think it is insensitive/wrong. I get that.
I don’t agree with the way people have attacked me and think it is insensitive/wrong. Hopefully you get that.
Not sure what else there is to say.
“I just don’t see how it is helpful to anyone to live in a state of paralysed terror. It is always better to feel safe.”
Also, speaking up about abuse, as the women in the post above are doing, is not living in a state of paralyzed terror. They have been made to feel unsafe and are trying to come up with solutions as to how to restore their feeling of safety. You can’t just snap your fingers and decide, welp, I feel safe regardless of how people are behaving towards me.
MRA laziness at it’s finest
I wonder if somehow it could be crowd-sourced. Probably that would be too prone to brigading, though. Actually, I’m just really glad that the dude from Manchester got a high-profile visit from the police. Obviously the police won’t do that for every threatening asshat on the Internet, but if there are regular stories of police arresting and questioning those making threats it might at least give some of them pause.
Note: I am not advocating throwing them in jail, just letting them know they’re on record, and letting other people know that there’s a chance they could be treated similarly.
Oh, I was wondering, does anyone have a good recipe for banana bread? I’ve got a bunch of old bananas in the fridge and want to do some up to send with my grandparents on their road trip to Alaska (they’re coming through here, oh what joy; at least it’s only for a day)
Quark: http://bit.ly/13w7IBi
As for tone trolling: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tone+trolling
And yes Quark, this debate was tired and off topic several pages ago. You forwarded an opinion, it was strongly disagreed with. Whether or not that rose to an attack is a matter of opinion, but your mistake lies in not letting that rest but instead doubling down on the community rather than discussing the actual topic.
I hope this helps.
Manboobz, come for the mockery, stay for the fights in the comment section.
@ Hellkell – I don’t follow links without explanations, sorry.
Hyena Girl: Jinx, but me a coke.
That passive-aggressive is better than aggressive-aggressive thing. I am positive I’ve heard (seen) it before from someone commenting in bad faith. But I can’t remember if it was here or Pollock in the thread from hell.
buy me a coke. I wouldn’t want to misunderstood.
QUark, click it, it tells you all about tone trolling, Hyena Girl gave you the same thing. Asshole.
@deste (is it okay if I call you that?), I haven’t made it in ages but I used to like the Moosewood one. This seems to match what I remember of it.
I see they also have a recipe for banana cupcakes.
There’s one definite “thread from hell”?
Hellkell — you’re a coke?! How are you typing?! The mind, it boggles (reread what you typed if I’m not making sense)
@ Hyena Girl – others would not let it rest either. You can say I am at fault and you may be right, But to say no-one else is is absurd. Many people here have behaved very badly.
Argenti: it definitely sounds like a sock. Can’t remember which, not sure it matters, Q isn’t saying anything new.
No one here, as far as I can tell, is being verbally abusive. The most people here have done is express contempt for your views, which often happens when people disagree. They aren’t “attacks.”
Yes, there has been some swearing, but swearing itself is not harassment or verbal abuse. It’s just a certain way of expressing one’s anger, happiness, etc.
You call it hypocritical, yet none of us are sending you death threats, rape threats, etc.; people are just annoyed at what you said and expressing their feelings. That’s it.
Cloudiah, of course you can, because you’re awesome! And thanks for the recipes! 😀
@ hellkell – why do you feel it necessary to swear so much and be so aggressive? It is really unpleasant and unnecessary,
seraph — it was a popehat thread that pecunium managed to suck a bunch of us into. You don’t want to read 900 comments of people trying to allow harassment at cons to go relatively unpunished because what about the socially awkward geeks?!
Now, what else are people bringing to our slumber party? Can we get Marie to come? She’ll make us a cake.
Argenti: I caught that. My typing is so very poor. Wait until the Theraflu kicks in.
@ hellkell
One genuine coke from Mexico coming up, that way you can have real sugar and a glass bottle.
Twitter is really dragging their feet on this. Are they scared of getting a backlash from the assholes, like Facebook did when they banned the horrible rape posts? The BBC video from last night made the point that, as a business decision, Twitter has the choice of choosing between a small group of assholes and a large percentage of their users.
It is always interesting how tech companies resist making obvious business decisions in favor of the free-speech-is-for-harassment brodudes. (Ophelia has some other good articles, too.)
http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2013/07/newsnight-on-twitter-trolls/