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Men’s Rights Redditors outraged by poster suggesting that men teach boys “about gender equality and healthy, equal relationships.”

Gender equality is MISANDRY!
Gender equality is MISANDRY!

Apparently, to a lot of the regulars in the Men’s Rights subreddit — like the hundreds who upvoted a post of this picture — the notion that men should raise their sons to respect women as equals is nothing more than foul propaganda and MISANDRY of the highest order.

And seriously, those guys in the poster look like total White Knight Beta Manginas.

Some of the Men’s Rightsers were especially offended by the white ribbon at the bottom of the poster, which they saw as a vaguely sinister reminder of a World War I campaign to shame British men into enlisting in the army. Because suggesting to your sons that boys and girls should be treated equally is the same as being guilt-tripped into becoming cannon fodder:

TheOtherBono 54 points 1 day ago (80|26)  White ribbons. Just like the white feathers handed to non-conscript men of the UK during WW1 by women to shame them into enlisting. How sweet       [–]froggymorning 14 points 22 hours ago (23|9)  What a subtle and effective slap.      MRMRising [-2] 6 points 23 hours ago (12|6)  ...and just as destructive.

Others used the poster as an opportunity to rail against … marriage. The top comment in the thread, as I write this post, is this one.

LAMFF 85 points 1 day ago (118|33)  Boys, avoid marriage at all costs. There is nothing equitable about that relationship.

Elezeid expanded on this theme:

Elezeid 10 points 20 hours ago (13|3)  Boys, if you have a child and don't stay with the mother, you will have all of the responsibilities and none of the rights. So heads up.

Caspian_Drifter responded to the eeeevil poster with a rhetorical question that unintentionally helped to underscore the whole point of the campaign in the first place:

casp

Seriously, ladies, why do gals like to go on and on about “equality” so much when your ladybrains weren’t even smart enough to come up with the idea in the first place? I mean, really, you ungrateful gals, you have a man/men to thank for that.

If I remember correctly, it was T. Reginald Equality who came up with the idea, with some help from his brother Ned (who suggested that he name it after himself).

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kittehserf
11 years ago

Know what I think when I see a shit filled toilet? “Who didn’t flush”

I tend to think “What the fuck is it with people who don’t flush public toilets?”

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Hey, cloudiah, how are you holding up? I hope your speech went OK.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Kitteh — seeing how I don’t tend to use public toilets, same thought process really?

Ally — AAAAAARGGGGHHH past year is not more accurate!! It is, in a sense, a sample size of one, if you treat “years being surveyed” as your subject.

hermionesotter
11 years ago

So logically bleach is a misandrist, right? 😉

kittehserf
11 years ago

Argenti – even more so, ‘cos my “This isn’t your home, clean up after your fucking self in a public place” rageometer is always primed.

Ally S
11 years ago

Argenti, here’s another interesting criticism of the CTS, one that even critiques the CTS2, which includes sexual assault as a form of DV: http://new.vawnet.org/print-document.php?doc_id=388&find_type=web_desc_AR

The main problem with Strauss’ responses to these criticisms is that he makes assertions out of thin air and focuses mostly on publication bias rather than anything else. Of course publication bias is unacceptable, but it’s largely irrelevant to the question of gender symmetry in DV.

Glock H. Palin, Esq. (@GlockPalin)

@ Kim

How on earth do you get from a comment about pencils to the thing you linked?

Because the entire universe rotates around the unalterable fact that all women are evil, evil slutwhores who are responsible for everything bad ever, so no matter what the subject under discussion is one can smoothly and reasonably segue into “bitches aint shit” and it will be totally reasonable and not at all insane.

E.g.:

Person 1: “I will have waffles for breakfast.”

Person 2: “Feminists think all male children should be starved to death. Fact.”

Person 1: “…I have to go now.”

katz
11 years ago

Pierre at Denny’s, I presume.

kittehserf
11 years ago

katz, lol! I can just picture that conversation.

Poor Pierre. Thank goodness he has Poutine.

kittehserf
11 years ago

For no relevant reason at all, the picture I made last night.

Cthulhu's Intern
Cthulhu's Intern
11 years ago

Also, you should know, Japan has a holiday called White Day! It’s an entire holiday devoted to misandry!

Also, younger people know about Oregon Trail. You don’t have to feel that old about it. My elementary school used Commodores (or computers very similar to Commodores. I was like 8 years old, old computers didn’t mean anything to me) around the late 90s-early 2000s.

aftermathclub
aftermathclub
11 years ago

Delurking to suggest Beyond Good & Evil to Michael Søndberg Olsen – Jade is a kickass woman protagonist (bonus: actually wears comfy clothes and shoes!) plus it is actually just a good game. I also liked Eternal Darkness which had a relatively sensible woman protagonist (Alex Roivas) too, though you do spend a lot of time occupying other characters. Oh! And running around as Manon Batiste in Medal of Honour: Underground back in the Playstation days, she was based on a real spy so that was extra cool.

Ok, done rambling, re-engaging lurk mode.

Malitia
Malitia
11 years ago

My elementary school had “Primo”s till the mid 90s… Umm… I think this needs an explanation. Primo was an 8bit computer made in Hungary. Only 7000 were produced between 1984-1986. Basic. Cassette drive. etc ( http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primo ) … For people who for some reason couldn’t (illegally*) import Commodores.

* In the 80s (according to my mother also the 70s) the black market made communism survive here.

melody
11 years ago

I totally was into Oregon trail as a kid.

melody
11 years ago

I totally was into Oregon trail as a kid.

dariancase
11 years ago

Reblogged this on dariancase.

Michael Søndberg Olsen

Thanks for your suggestions. And let me make one of my own: the Blackwell series. Modern games made with oldschool style adventure point ‘n’ click and graphics. And Roseangela is one of the best female game characters ever. (The second game, where you play her chainsmoking aunt in the 1970s is even better) And no, I’m not being paid to sound like an advertisement, I reallly just love those games. Hell, I’ve bought it for other people several times at GOG. (Where I occasionally get into discussions with gamer meatheads about feminism in games. Some people get really whiny about Sarkeesian. If ever a subculture needed a lashing, gamers are it. Well, MRM/MRAs REALLY need it, but dignifying THAT shit with the word culture is a bit much).

And Oregon Trail… I think that was on all school computers everywhere in the world, for some reason. Maybe because it was seen as slightly educational, I guess. Along with a primitve tank game that was called Scorched Earth.

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@cloudiah

OMG, there’s a guy in the comments equating the scene in Trainspotting where Renton dives into the toilet to “enter[ing] the porcelain vagina to find his shit.” I fucking needed a laugh.

O_o Porcelain vagina? That just sounds…surreal.

@kim

From what I’ve read that may be a problem: http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V74-gender-symmetry-with-gramham-Kevan-Method%208-.pdf

How on earth do you get from a comment about pencils to the thing you linked? Blurting out non-sequiturs isn’t how you get people to take you seriously.

Was that brz? because I’m kind of on ‘automatic ignoring him’ mode.

@kittehs

For no relevant reason at all, the picture I made last night.

Aw 🙂 Nice picture.

Michael Søndberg Olsen

I feel really really really young now…

Well, kid, let me tell you of the dark olden days, when there wasn’t even an internet. Don’t be shocked, now! But it’s true. It was terrible. There was even a time when music came on discs instead of downloads. Hell, before that they even had tapes and large plates made of vinyl. My first “computer” had games that came as cartridges with handles and you jabbed them into a slot on the console. To play a chess game you had to have an extension with extra memory that would easily overheat, Then came the c64, my childhood magic box, followed by the Amiga 500 and finally the pc. And here we are today, with me looking for my dentures and my cane so I can swat at you youngsters from my rockin’ chair.

Michael Søndberg Olsen

O_o Porcelain vagina? That just sounds…surreal.

It’s sounds like a Kubrick idea filtered through Cronenberg.

Fade
11 years ago

From what I’ve read that may be a problem: http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V74-gender-symmetry-with-gramham-Kevan-Method%208-.pdf

How on earth do you get from a comment about pencils to the thing you linked? Blurting out non-sequiturs isn’t how you get people to take you seriously.

Was that brz? because I’m kind of on ‘automatic ignoring him’ mode.

I followed that link (b/c i forgot to read the username XD) and was completely confused. I was expecting something funny about pencils there. 🙁

Kate
Kate
11 years ago

TBH, when I see a shit filled toilet I think:

“Holy fucking hell in a woven wicker handbasket. Bar patrons are gross. Thank fuck there’s powerful plumbing in this place”

**FLOOOOOOOOOSH**

*dons RUBBER GLOVES OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM* (They go up to my armpits)

**SCRUB** **SCRUB**

*thinks to self: “I need a better second job*

:/

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

Michael Søndberg Olsen

I’m mortifitrigued.

It was unabashed silliness, the romance of two toothbrushes in the purplest innuendo I could manage. Not surprisingly, it proved quite popular, especially since I was surrounded by people of much greater seriousness and poetic talent.

And whatever REAL toothbrush porn is, I have no idea what it is and probably didn’t write it.

how about we name good games with actual good female characters or even protagonists?

Waaaaay ahead of you.

RE: Robert

I had never heard of Leather Goddesses of Phobos before. It sounds oddly endearing, in a cheesy way.

As per games, I’m a young upstart, but I was playing hack before I could read. I pretty much fell out of gaming around 2000, which means that by today’s standards, I can still pass in gaming company as having my old school cred.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: auggziliary

We were a Crash and Spyro PS1 fan, back in the day. Still got the games and the console moldering around back there.

Marie
Marie
11 years ago

@auggz

Its really weird having the internet being part of your childhood.
I was basically born using a computer, since my parents got me tons of children’s PC games. Hell, I could use a mouse perfectly fine by the time I was 3 or 4.
Also we had typing classes in elementary school. Idk if that existed before, but I’m thankful for them.

Dang, are you even younger than me? Or just more computer savvy XD I played computer games when I was younger, but I only really knew how to use when I was in fifth or sixth grade. Didn’t even learn how to touch type til 7th or 8th.

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