The fellas in the Men’s Rights subreddit are getting worked up over imaginary feminists again!
Yesterday, in a discussion of paternity fraud, a brand-new Redditor who had never posted a comment before posted a completely unsourced screenshot of what quite a few of the regulars took to be some sort of official feminist statement on paternity fraud.
A few of the more discerning commenters suggested that the screenshot might just be satire, but others were convinced not only that it was real, but that it was the completely serious opinion of a representative feminist. As one put it, referring to the Reddit watchdogs in Shit Reddit Says,
Another chimed in with this:
I took a few moments to Google some of the text in the screenshot to find out where it originated and discovered that it came from a now-defunct Tumblr blog called feminismrising.
While the blog is gone, it has left little traces of itself all over the internet, and from these traces it’s easy enough to figure out that it was a satirical/troll blog meant to parody feminism. My guess, for what it’s worth, is that that it was written by a feminist out to parody the absurd visions of evil feminism that are prevalent amongst Men’s Rightsers and other antifeminists. But who knows. The only thing that’s really clear is that it was a joke.
Proof? Well, here’s one “Q-and-A” that evidently once ran on the site:
Q: My boyfriend recently asked me if we could have sex. I tried to explain to him that asking me to have sex with him counts as sexual assault, but he couldn’t understand it that piv sex is ONLY okay if I am the one who asks for it. Can you help me try to explain why what he’s doing when he asks for sex is misogynistic?
A: It seems he doesn’t understand sexual harassment to such a degree for all intents and purposes is basically sexual assault.
This is normal; men in general don’t understand even the most basic tactful ways to approach women.
A rule of thumb is that if you can see him, hear him and feel him it’s most definitely sexual assault. Now does that mean that just because you can’t feel him it isn’t sexual assault? No. That’s just something rape culture says. Going by that line of reasoning it wouldn’t be sexual assault if you simply couldn’t feel him as you’d been administered some sort of anesthesia.
So through absurdity reduction we rule out that it’s necessary to feel him. If you can hear him, see him and you feel sexually assaulted then you have been sexually assaulted.
He’s being misogynistic for saying he doesn’t understand.
I think only a complete Men’s Rights dunderhead could fail to detect the satire here.
You can see more examples from the blog here.
Elsewhere in the same Men’s Rights subreddit discussion, helping MRAs live up to another unfortunate stereotype, this fella gets a few upvotes for his I’m-just-sayin’ semi-advocacy of vigilante justice — specifically, murdering judges:
Oh, Men’s Rights Redditors. You’re just awful, aren’t you?
Marie are you still here? If so here is a unicorn hamster for you. (at first I thought it was a guinea pig- sorry.)
http://media-cache-ak3.pinimg.com/736x/6a/8d/e4/6a8de424b91fba412133c77e5d801ece.jpg
Unicorn hamster, squee!
THAT UNICORN HAMSTER IS THE CUTEST FUCKING THING EVER. THAT IS ALL.
Yay hamstercorn.
Kittycorns are also a thing.
Another hamstercorn
http://goo.gl/o15whi
This isn’t a hamstercorn, but there’s pretty much nothing fuzzier than this Pallas’ cat.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxbur6MX9C1r1ckuno1_1280.jpg
What I want to do with my life:
http://media-cache-ak3.pinimg.com/736x/3e/5b/88/3e5b88bfa3056fb859b55ecc14c310e5.jpg
Unicorn pug
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f3/27/11/f327118e9ab87f85ffff1728c66cc1cc.jpg
Pissed off Furrinati-corn:
http://media-cache-ak2.pinimg.com/736x/41/ae/01/41ae01b561ae214281a6b7b31590c6c5.jpg
Unicorn goat!
http://www.sideshowworld.com/9-ms-pi/interviewOZ-7a.jpg
Ally, I was hoping you’d post that Pallas’ cat pic – saw it on Feministe and OMG!!!1eleventy!!
LOL very pissed off indeed!
Sleeping Pallas’ cat
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/27700000/Pallas-Cat-pallas-cats-27745375-1600-1067.jpg
:3
Shaenon, I loled at the “Jesus” comment.
It would make a boss custom van.
Physically impossible – Mark lives in his sister’s spare bedroom and has not worked in 5 years. I hope it is true – if some crazy person is willing to marry him the IRS will take him down. I cant get child support but he owes the IRS tens of thousands in back taxes and interest.
This is especially fascinating since that the guys on the PUA forums have been speculating that Minter must be rich, since that’s the only reason a woman would ever marry a man.
Maybe she’s rich? Projection, thy name is MRA.
The blurb about paternity fraud may or may not be genuine. I don’t know. What I know is that a British feminist (Melanie McDonagh) made a similar claim three years ago (http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Features/Focus/article183263.ece). I know it is not typical but it exists.
I don’t think McDonagh is a feminist. (Or British, but whatever.) She seems to be a conservative Irish pundit who mostly writes pieces defending the Catholic church and pushing women to have more babies. I’d be surprised if she identifies as a feminist, especially since in the piece you linked to she refers to “the feminists” as if they were an alien species. And this article about how men are the “underdog sex” could have been written by an MRA: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/5473864/Maybe-men-are-now-the-underdog-sex.html
Here’s a typical feminist reaction to the paternity fraud piece: http://jezebel.com/5349395/are-paternity-tests-anti+feminist
Kitteeeeeeeeeeee!
::ahem::
Yeah McDonagh is a catholic who thinks women are putting off having babies not because they want careers, but because they can’t find Mr Right. She’s also defended the pope and his cronies. She does write for the guardian and the Independent (British papers), so I’m not sure if she’s actually Irish.
“Luckily law reflects feminist thought”
No feminist would ever say that.
Although, as we can find some feminists argue seriously that cheating is rape (because sexual autonomy, bodily integrity, lack of enthusiastic consent and all that crap), I’m sure we can find at least one feminist arguing that paternity fraud is completely OK because sexual autonomy, bodily integrity and that men are so entitled and privileged that they think they have the right to control women’s bodies (like, for exemple, considering that women should ensure their enthusiastic consent before making them raise the offspring of an affair).
Argh, an affair can’t have an offspring (or maybe metaphorically, an affair can give birth to little flirts).
I meant “the fruit of an affair”.
Brz, you’re getting stupider by the day.
I’ve always been that stupid. It’s just that in the beginning, in the time of the first flutters, everything is new and fresh. It’s normal, time erodes everything.
For anyone trying to make people who compare everything to rape understand why that is wrong I say good luck. And only try it with people you know and in person.
I commented on a post made on a “Spotted” page for my University in which some eejit compared the fact that coke was expensive in the campus shop to rape. I said that was wrong etc. and why, and the admin of the page told me to “pipe down” and some other randomer asked me what I was wearing.
Yeah that was weird.
In other news, I found out that one of the guys who set up the Men’s Right’s Facebook page in response to my Feminist Society at University and made loads of posts about me is either a rapist or is a predator who will rape someone.
Sorry I really should have put a trigger warning on that last post.
Il a également oublié d’être français.