Leave it to the guys at Roosh V’s Return of Kings blog to find a bright side, of sorts, to a study reporting that one in five Americans suffered from some sort of mental illness in 2010, with more women (23%) amongst those affected than men (16.8%).
Since “at least a quarter of the women you run into at any given time are not going to be alright upstairs,” RoK contributor Athlone McGinn argues, and the percentage is likely to be much higher amongst younger women, you might as well use this fact to your advantage.
But first you need to accept the disadvantages. For one thing, you need to realize your powerful man-logic won’t work on these gals:
If you’re 18-25, you will in many cases be dealing with someone who is fundamentally incapable of being reliably rational.
Never mind that most mental illnesses don’t affect the ability to think rationally about most things. Someone with an intense phobia of Donald Trump’s hair, for example, is able to think rationally about everything except Donald Trump’s hair.
Maybe that’s a bad example. I’m not sure it’s entirely irrational to be afraid of Donald Trump’s hair.
And, like their sane counterparts, the crazy ladies may sometimes turn you down. But at least this time you don’t have to feel so bad about yourself.
You may think you’re a loser because you get shot down by these girls more than you’d like, but this isn’t always the case: you’re often dealing with not-entirely-alright girls with illogical criteria.
Oh, but McGinn assures us that “[t]his isn’t an excuse, mind you.” You still need to make sure your “game” is tight. Just don’t be too hard on yourself, because women (like the prices at Crazy Eddie’s electronics emporiums) are literally insane.
So what’s the great advantage of dating a woman who’s mentally ill? McGinn is a bit vague, probably deliberately, but essentially he suggests that men can keep “dysfunctional” women in line by treating them like shit:
Dysfunctional treatment is often welcomed by dysfunctional people, and many of those with mental issues fit that bill. Since we’ve already established that a very large number of young women fit into that category, you should not be surprised to see so many of them respond positively to dysfunctional behavior.
It is not uncommon for young men to adopt some of these dysfunctional behaviors, find increased sexual/romantic success with their female peers as a result, and then feel guilty about it all. Such guilt is understandable (they don’t like the fact that morally degraded versions of themselves are more appealing to girls in general than the men they actually prefer to be), but ultimately unnecessary—there is nothing a man can do about the female proclivity to welcome such behavior except adapt to it. It is the result of factors much bigger than him.
Poor pickup artists! They don’t want to be abusive, manipulative, exploitative assholes and terrible people generally. They’re driven to this awful behavior by forces beyond their control — like the fact that women are statistically somewhat more likely to suffer from mental illness than men.
Hookup culture isn’t anything new, that’s for sure.
You’re 22. OK. You don’t know everything yet, in time, you will realize this…if you’re lucky.
You talk about adapting in regards to getting laid and taking advantage of people with alleged weaknesses that you may wish to fuck. Don’t fool yourself — only an asshole would characterize such predatory behavior as simply adapting. You’re sexist and young and need a lot of self-reflection to rise above the shitty posts you have left here. How does, by the way, a 22-year-old decide that women are an alien group that he has to manipulated into having sex? Do you have any warm, friendly relationships with any women at all? Women are human, just like you. Please, grow-up soon.
On to the more important things – does anyone here use BB creams or powder on skin that has largish pores from age, and a mild case of rosacea’s red patches? I’m interested to know if there are creams/powders/cream-to-powders that give a smoother look without either looking like paint or doing that awful white spots instead of pores look if one gets a bit heavy-handed. I use Revlon’s cream to powder over Invisible Zinc tinted sunscreen at the moment. They’re good, in that they don’t aggravate the skin or cause rosacea breakouts, but iffy about reducing the redness.
Kitteh’s, check out the Pretty and Cute link Cassandra dropped earlier. The Korean creams would probably be more likely to have what you need, I know they make some for older skin (not sure about rosacea), I think it was Skin79.
You’re pretty pale, right, Kittehs? I’d guess that either of the big Lioele ones (Beyond the Solution, Triple the Solution) might cover the stuff you’re looking to cover, but the latter cream in particular is pretty pale. I think the sunscreen in that one is zinc-based.
In fact the Korean bb creams are a good option for super-pale people in general, it’s anyone who’s darker than maybe a Mac 30, or 35 at the most, who’s going to have problems finding one.
My Skin79 cream (it’s the Gold one) also covers fine lines really well.
Athlone’s 22? Oh dear.
Cool, thanks for the tips, all! 🙂
Pecunium! Why in the world have we been emailing about fish and planning and not this?
Also, my TMI inference is that you were younger than I’d have guessed.
In COMPLETELY different things, think we should explain said planning?
FISH STUFF!!! My father ordered me a 30g to replace the 10g so my puffs will have room when they grow up, and this is me taking a break from my physics engine and working out the plumbing on the sump. Totally makes up for what this tool’s doing to my mental health.
Relatedly, anyone here have experience in brackish water tanks? This is a new one for me and I’d appreciate any of the “things they don’t tell you” tips you’ve got! (Least of all being to get my damned problems sorted in the right order, spent an hour on a valve to divert water if the pump refills the tank faster than the overflow drains it and the damned pump has flow control >.< )
Oh and Mr. Manipulator? I’m 28 (lol, recently enough that I’m still not used to that) and when I was in college hook up culture was totally a thing and idk about sheer numbers but quality? All about the guys who’re decent guys who just want something casual but are respectful and such. Being upfront that you’re only looking for a fuck buddy and maybe some pizza beforehand works better than you claim.
So he’s still a douche and an asshole? Fucker.
I am enjoying the makeup recommendations. Sunscreen: when I was visiting my friend in NY, she turned me on to this ridiculously expensive but finally a sunscreen light enough to not make me break out thing called La Roche-Posay Anthelios 60 Ultra Light Sunscreen. If you have a good sunscreen that’s cheaper, ignore me. But if you don’t, and you have sensitive skin, and most sunscreens aggravate your skin (rosacea), give it a try. Toner: I also use a “toner” from Mario Badescu meant for people with dry-ish skin prone to redness; it’s called Chamomile Cleansing lotion.
I usually use el cheapo nothing but zinc or titanium dioxide sunscreen. Anything else makes me itch and breakout. Neutrogena is the worst.
sarahlizhousespouse: I was at work, and we have company. So I am being distracted by finnish heavy metal being silly.
I’m also keeping him busy with my fish geekery. Anyone have ideas for how to section off a corner of the tank that don’t involve silicone and an ikea glass shelf?
The prices are part of why I’m asking, too. Invisible Zinc is $35 for 50g. The Revlon cream to powder is cheaper, and lasts longer, but it irks me having to pay such prices and not get quite the result I’d like, though these two are the best I’ve found – and we don’t have a big range of brands available in stores here.
Neutrogena has some great skin (not face) lotion, but their face stuff is shit.
I’ve just looked up some reviews of Skin79 and they’re praising it a lot – including several from people with rosacea or pale/pink toned skin. Sounds promising …
Hmm, on second thoughts, maybe not. Caviar in it … that’s not for me.
My two favorite Skin79 BB creams. I have dry-to-combination skin, and hate the feeling of anything heavy, if that helps serve as a guide. I don’t really have much redness, but both of these can cover minor undereye circles for me.
http://www.skin79northamerica.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=106&category_id=28&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53
http://www.skin79northamerica.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=89&category_id=28&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53
BTW they have a handy chart that might help folks figure out which cream is best for them.
http://www.skin79northamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=127&Itemid=101
Not an Ed Ruscha fan?
Nope, ‘cos I’ve never heard of him! 🙂
“Erwan, I am so sorry about what happened to you. Neuroatypical and mentallg ill people can be abusers. No one is trying to say that we can’t, or that it is okay when we do it. It is absolutely not okay. Dismantling ableism is not about excusing what happened to you. It is about protecting people with disabilities (including mental disabilities) from the discrimination we face.’
Taking advantage of a woman’s disability to use her sexually is deeply wrong, no problem with that. It is also unwise. Frankly, those guys are asking for troubles. Now, cluster B (BDP for women mostly but the other varieties are just as toxic) are abusers, always, and they use various ideologies, feminism and ableism among them, to “excuse” their abuses. At least that’s my experience.
As to whether it happens more frequently than the other way artound… since I have separated I have been hit on several times by such women, probably because they are more sexually agressive and predatory. Of course, now, I know how to deal with them
Taking advantage of a woman’s disability to use her sexually is deeply wrong, no problem with that. It is also unwise. Frankly, those guys are asking for troubles. Now, cluster B (BDP for women mostly but the other varieties are just as toxic) are abusers, always, and they use various ideologies, feminism and ableism among them, to “excuse” their abuses. At least that’s my experience.
There is so much wrong with this.
Your experience is singular. Saying BPD = Abuser, first, last, and always, is ableism. It’s also an invalid extrapolation.
Yeah, after that bit of universalising I’m … starting to side-eye Erwan’s comments.
It took this long for people to side-eye him? I have every sympathy for the fact that he was mistreated by his ex, but what he’s attempting to use that experience to justify is just not on.
It was the doubling down. The first comment, mm, could have been bad wording.
Zie’s also going on about paternity fraud on the other thread, now. Ding ding ding, troll alert!