Well, it’s time for a little celebration, I guess. Because I’ve just received word — straight from the Manosphere itself — that feminism has defeated Pickup Artistry in the battle for control of America.
That, at least, is the message of a blog post from our old acquaintance Firepower. On his Eradica blog, he writes sadly that “[d]espite 15 years [of PUA] Feminism still rules America – NOT men. Certainly not puas.” The problem, to poor feminism-hating Firepower?
PUA didn’t make guys “men,” it made them better dudes. It didn’t make them smarter – it made them dumber. Such blundering strategy is not Mastery, it is Foolery; especially in a country now based on, legislated and totally ruled by females – or call this state mentality, feminine values. …
Despite PUA being a potent strategy practiced since 2000, nothing has changed. Those many tactics to tame The Wild American Bitch failed.
In fact, Firepower argues, these Wild Bitches are ever Wilder and Bitchier than they were before Game came along.
Females – girls especially – are far worse behaved now, after “the Game Era” than they were before.
Females today, are even louder, nastier, cuntier and more tattooed. Game was supposed to give men the upper hand. The last time I went to “the club,” women are still the loudest, drunkest, rudest, most profane entitled Princesses Of The Universe. It is they who became Real Men by asserting their masculine qualities of dominance, power and intimidation – not boys. Males just smile sweetly, simper – and wipe their girl’s puke hair.
Apparently I have had something to do with all this, although I haven’t been able to figure out enough of this paragraph to understand exactly what it is I’ve done:
The extreme is evidenced in the psycho Amanda Marcotte/Manboobs FFOL wing/falange and is why I find NF such a structural part of FFOL. Game and pua gave the deactivated, unemployed big-mouthed fatties in storage something new to fight. It is their resurrection: Instead of marching in parades, they march as effective Courtroom/Legal System/Government leaders. They have no need of combat, to write picket signs and post online when they now post statutes and write law.
From earlier in the post, and by checking Firepower’s little blog glossary, I’ve been able to determine that NF is short for “Neo Feminism” and FFOL for “Five-Fingered Fist of Liberalism.” Not that this really helps clear things up much.
Also, I’m not quite sure why Firepower has picked two bloggers to be representative of some “falange” that doesn’t need to post online because it can just write laws. Or why a white dude like myself is supposed to be involved with something (the “FFOL”) that Firepower thinks is a “United Front eradicating white males.”
In the end, Firepower declares that everyone is stupid, so fuck them.
[T]he females are indeed, completely corrupted – but so are the boys. Both classes are stupid and unworthy because they are Murkans. No great leaders or movements are born out of slop.
Speaking of slop, the comments to Firepower’s post are a virtual cesspool not only of misogyny but of virulent racism and homophobia as well. Oh, and some old-fashioned anti-Semitism to boot. If you venture into them, prepare for every sort of slur there is, as well as for an extended discussion of whether or not PUA has made men more “faggoty.”
This is what the “White Nationalist” wing of the Manosphere sounds like when it talks amongst itself.
EDIT: Fixed a word in the penultimate graf. Should have been “virulent racism,” obviously, and it now iw.
RE: CassandraSays
But, but, don’t you know that PUAs were going to stealth-change the world with their penises? There’s no greater power in the world!
I haven’t read the whole thread, but I agree with Cassandra: PUA aim at “beating” the system, at using women’s “weaknesses” against themselves to convince them to have sex with said PUA. None of that will change women, except that maybe they will have less sex with alphas* and more with skilled beta* PUAs. But since we’re not even talking about LTR but hook up, I fail to see how that would change women (sorry, females) or even anything in our society outside hook up culture.
*I know these are not real things for humans.
As for being loud in club, in my very short experience (once), the reason people, including women, are loud is that you can barely hear yourself thinking because of the music. I’m pretty sure Amanda and David have no power over this.
Anyway, if PUAs have led to more tattooed women, I might have to reconsider my judgment of these assholes.
Aw, poor baby. Snake oil never works.
Game is the aromatherapy of social interaction.
Nah, aromatherapy at least leaves a nice smell behind.
Howard: I couldn’t remember if it was homeopathy or what that was the big woo, so I went with aromatherapy. You get my drift.
LBT: Watership Down, the book or the movie is well worth the time. I’m a blubbering mess at the end of each.
My next tattoo is going to be a Maneki-neko as a stand in for my calico Mimi. She’s my special baby.
The best weapon against hook up culture is surely more hooking up. PUAs: winning.
PUA is more like the anti-vax movement of social interaction – a stupid idea that self-replicates, doesn’t help the people it’s supposed to help, and causes incidental harm to many others.
Also, let’s think about this. So PUAs go around hitting on drunk girls at bars and clubs, and it pretty much makes no difference whether the girls are “nice” or not because the guys are just picking the hottest ones they can find (who don’t immediately tell them to get lost). Why would that make women want to drink less, be quieter, or any of the other stuff?
Anti-vax, even better!
Yeah, I don’t get why he’s against loud-mouthed drunk chicks. If he doesn’t want those, maybe he shouldn’t go to a club. It’s not a cotillion, FFS.
It did make me wonder how many PUAs were Roissy-like from the very beginning. For about 30 seconds, and then thinking about them got too boring.
@ LBT
Well, remember that according to the Cock Warriors spunk is the most powerful thing in the universe.
Speaking of guys with stupid ideas, those guys. Who have decided that “rape culture” means “lots of gay men have anal sex, which is unmanly, thus it’s rape”.
Forgot the link.
http://man2manalliance.org/crw/warriorspeak/rapeculture.html
Exactly.
Besides, I wouldn’t be surprised if lots of PUA disciples do get quite a lot of sex. If you spend a lot of time at bars and the like and talk to lots of women you’re probably gonna get laid a lot, even if you’re a bit rude. (it’s not like most PUA:s, from what I’ve seen, actually tell people to go around saying super-misogynistic things to the women they want to score with. Most seem to be a bit more sensible than Roissy.) Even if you only get lucky with every tenth woman or so whom you try to hook up with, that could mean a fairly good number of women over the course of a year, if you go out to clubs and bars all the time and approach women whenever you do so.
I don’t think PUA would still be around if it wasn’t the case that lots of people felt that it worked for them, only I think the success some men think they have with these methods is mostly down to actually interacting with lots of women, and also try again and again and again with various women if you’re turned down by one of them, rather than go home and sulk for six months after someone has turned you down .
RE: CassandraSays
Well, remember that according to the Cock Warriors spunk is the most powerful thing in the universe.
Speaking of guys with stupid ideas, those guys. Who have decided that “rape culture” means “lots of gay men have anal sex, which is unmanly, thus it’s rape”.
Yup! Why do you think I love these dumbasses so much? I want to laugh and cry, that they can’t imagine rape and buttsex being not necessarily mutually inclusive.
The sadder, also fairly likely explanation is that one of them had really abusive experiences with that kind of sex, and they generalized it out. To them, it WAS abusive, but they can’t imagine any instance of it being happy or loving, and they combined it with disease concern to turn it into one big mess. Of course, this also leads to the stupid belief that frot is the paragon of sex, because you totally can’t rape someone if nothing goes into anyone.
I would feel sorry for them, if they weren’t so full of shit.
OMG, that “rape culture” piece…
Speaking of weird things, sometimes I click randomly on sites on the Boob Roll, just for lulz, and I found this: http://www.angryharry.com/MRAs-Are-Sexy.htm
The writing is typical boring shit about how women dig bad boys, but I am super amused by the illustration for his MRAs are Sexy essay. Chicks do love guys with headbands and weird bangs, yup, you called it Angry Harry.
RE: CassandraSays
Also, for your lulz, apparently Cockrub Warriors guy and G0ys dude had a huge falling out and really dislike each other. Go figure.
@ LBT
Don’t forget the misogyny! Seriously, that page is full of conspiracy theories about how the gender feminist cabal wants all gay men having buttsex to feminize them because we hate masculinity.
Link? I love it when idiots argue. It’s my favorite spectator sport.
RE: CassandraSays
Here. This is where I first discovered both groups in the first place. Apparently Cockrub Warrior doesn’t like how closeted the g0ys are, and dislikes their bullshit money-making. (Which, yes, I’ve noticed.)
God, I’d forgotten about the rank transphobia and misogyny of Bill Weintraub. Wretch. I guess back when I first looked at his stupid site, I hadn’t come out as trans yet.
What the fuck did I just read?
The dude shortened the word frottage and thinks he coined something new? LOL.
Well this is delightful news…I guess? I’m glad feminism it’s winning (??) at something.
Uh . . . I skipped most of that Angry Harry MRAs are sexy thing and clicked on the link on the bottom to the “Worst of David Futrelle” . . . . and so my question is, is he actually getting any of that strange stuff about David from anywhere?
@grumpycatisagirl, Mostly it appears to be prime ass-data. One of the things on his list refers to a book review David did of a book with an older gay protagonist who fantasizes about having sex with a “boy” he sees in a bar. The fact that this “boy” is in a bar, therefore of legal drinking age, is something they gloss over. We have had trolls here spouting this stuff, so I guess Angry Harry is the source.
Really? All of that is extrapolated from one book review? My head hurts.
And if it was a “girl” in the bar I guess that wouldn’t be remotely as suggestible to them . . .