Men’s Rights Redditor: Maybe feminism is “a time bomb planted by them camel jockeys on the ‘western’ world.”

Deoridhe, Leum – I was talking about this sort of thing in the comments on a BroadBlogs post about women being attracted to “sexy” men, or not. It’s all the face, for me. Well, more specific than that, if it’s not THE face it doesn’t count; the body only gets sexy when it’s been photoshopped to be the right person’s body.

Ditto also about an ugly bod with the hot face. Or just an ordinary bod, for that matter. If a guy has an appealing face – aesthetically, I mean, since I don’t respond sexually in brain or bits to other people – it doesn’t matter that much about the body.

I also got a great phrase from that blog – “him-directed”. That describes my sexybrain and associated bits perfectly!

I don’t know the pic reference (outside Manboobz, I mean) but I like the assassin’s hat. 🙂

LOL latex-clad nuns!

Don’t worry, though – it wouldn’t matter much what video game was involved, I still wouldn’t recognise anything much except Mario and Tomb Raider.

Or Tetris blocks, though working them into feminist assassin themes would be tricky. 😉

All of the blocks are the people of the world. The I-shaped block is a feminist. When the world lets her in, like this: http://thegoddamn90s.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/tetris.gif
she has as much influence as possible, destroying everyone that let her in.
Meanwhile, the S- and Z-shaped blocks are MRAs, preventing anyone from being destroyed by making it hard for the player to manage them.

The Islamist leader who visited the US was Sayyid Qutb, and his interpretation of America was astounding: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1253796

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So wait a minute, do feminists want to all women to be whores or to they want them to all wear burqas?

I think it depends on which wardrobe choice will most offend the men near you. Married to a beta? You definitely need to be all sexy and sleep with a bunch of alphas, because that will upset the beta. However, if you’re in porn, you need to be completely covered up and not do anything that could be construed as erotic, because that will upset your viewers. The important thing to remember is that feminism, like everything women do, is all about men on some level.

/sarcasm

It is interesting how they feel that forcing women to wear burquas is oppression of men, and only of men. Do these guys feel oppressed by seeing a woman wearing a burqua? Do they feel it is taking away some right of theirs? I always feel creeped out by guys who get angry at women for wearing too many clothes. I can understand the burqua is a complex issue, and I am not sure I like the reasoning behind it, however I don’t feel personally offended just seeing a woman who is covered up.

Meanwhile, the S- and Z-shaped blocks are MRAs, preventing anyone from being destroyed by making it hard for the player to manage them.

I knew it! Those ones are the biggest damn nuisances!

@Pear_Tree: they are only offended if the women they’d like to eyefuck are covered up (Lord knows they’ll never be able to actually fuck any of them). The others, well, they should be as not-visible as possible.

PS just occurred to me too – that one reason for the face-focus for me is that for decades, that’s all I could see of my beloved. Even civilian clothing in his portraits is rare, when he’s an adult; mostly it’s armour.

For a feminist symbol, the 4-long block in Tetris is awfully phallic.

But some men really are offended by veiled muslim women, sometimes even to the point of trying to tear their veils off. Just the other day I read this blogpost by a muslim woman who’d been harassed at the tube for wearing a hijab, and the man harassing her had eventually tried to tear it off her head. She had to defend herself as best she could and run off, since nobody helped her out.

This is one of several reasons I think it’s a terribly bad idea to outlaw veils. Some people argue that we ought to do that, because no woman really want to veil up, everyone who does so is merely forced by the patriarchal culture she comes from/the men in her family, and in the name of female liberation we ought to make at least niqabs and burquas illegal, possibly hijabs as well. (That’s one of the two arguments usually trotted out by people who want to have veil laws; the other one is that in a democracy it’s really important with openness and everyone being able to see each others faces. That argument is just incomprehensible to me. I get that there are certain situations where officials have to check ID:s, and people have to show their faces then, but I can’t possibly see what kind of difference it makes to democracy if I can see the face or not of some random stranger that just passes me by on the street.)

Anyway, going back to the female liberation argument against veils, which is at least comprehensible in that I get what they’re trying to say, there’s just so much wrong with it.
1. If someone really is forced to veil up by some evil oppressive men in her family, I doubt her situation will improve because veils are outlawed. Possibly the situation will be even worse; maybe she won’t even be allowed to leave home anymore if she can’t do so veiled up?
2. Besides, if someone, for instance, threatens to beat his wife unless she veils up, there are already laws against that.
3. Some women are adamant that they choose themselves to veil up and they haven’t been oppressed into doing so. Feminists shouldn’t pat them on the head and go “oh dear, you don’t know your own good!”.
4. AND it’s quite often MEN who once again want to control what women wear or not! And that’s NOT particularly feminist!

I remember once when I worked as a practical nurse and had a colleague who wore a hijab. Then there was this guy who worked as a temp with us for a while, and he would over and over again try to initiate discussions about feminism with her. Like, for instance, he’d ask her if she’d consider being a housewife in the future if she’d marry a man who made enough money for both of them. She was like “well, perhaps” and he immediately went “well HERE IN SWEDEN we think women are independent and can make their own money!” and she was like “whatever, moron, now STFU and let’s get to work”. Over and over again he showed that he’d really gotten into his head that she was this poor oppressed muslim woman in a veil, despite the fact that she was a pretty tough and outspoken person in general.
And then, when he was (thankfully) soon about to quit, some other colleagues told me that he’d been talking to them about his old girlfriends, and to make a long story short, really revealed himself to be a TOTAL FUCKING MISOGYNIST.

I mentioned this to another friend once, and he said that according to his experiences, it wasn’t just this guy, it’s a real pattern. Men who go on and on about how terrible it is that muslim women wear veils because veils are OPPRESSIVE AGAINST WOMEN are always the worst misogynists themselves.