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This email from a non-fan was so thoughtful I thought I’d share it, and my responses to it, with you all. This is the whole email, by the way. No, “Dear David” or any other niceties at the start.

1. Why do you represent yourself as a head of a creepy fucking child?

Because the “creepy fucking child” in the picture is me? It’s sort of my favorite picture of me.

2. How can you honestly believe that we live under a patriarchy, at least in modern western society? I mean, men hold no where near as much power as they’ve had in the past. Women nowadays have pretty much all the rights and opportunities that men have (hell, they probably have MORE rights, privileges and opportunities than men have).

Huh. How on earth could I possibly have come to the conclusion that perhaps men have more than their share of power in society today?

3. So what do you think of the Amazing Atheist?

Why don’t you just go and read what I’ve written about him? Do you not know how to use Google, or the search box on this page?

You two do have your similarities to each other: you’re both fat, have beards, wear glasses, are very opinionated, and both enjoy insulting the people you don’t like (feminists/MRA’s) and naturally attract a lot trolls from those respective groups. But, you two are on completely opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to feminism and gender politics.

Huh. How could that possibly be, with both of us being fat and wearing glasses? I’ll have to bring it up at the next meeting of the Bespectacled Fat Elders of the Internet.

Also, there is a bit of a difference between bullying people you don’t like (a la Amazing Atheist) and QUOTING WHAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAY (a la me).

And no, DO NOT bring up his sexual exploits, trying focusing exclusively on his merits as a video blogger, and as a person who gives his opinions on YouTube.

I don’t give a shit about his “sexual exploits,” whatever they are. And I don’t have much to say about his “merits as a video blogger,” because I’ve only watched a handful of his terrible videos. What I do know. from what I have seen from him, is that he’s a nasty, hateful, misogynistic asshole who bullies rape victims online and mocked a teenage girl who was bullied into committing suicide.

That kind of outweighs (get it? get it?) any fat solidarity I might have for him because of his fatness.

Hope that helps!

Yours, in fatness,

David Futrelle

EDITED TO ADD: My correspondent has responded to this post! Here is his reply. You may notice certain ironies.

That’s fine, go ahead and post all my emails to you on your website. All it’s gonna do is show how much of a colossal douchebag you are. And nice job on having your army of worms and insects crawl from the woodworks to attack me. Just goes to show how much feminists and the people who support them DO NOT deserve to be taken seriously, when all they do is stoop to personal insult and just linking to articles when someone questions them.

On the abortion thing, yeah that’s a problem, but how does it prove that’s there’s a patriarchy in western society? How do you explain the states that do allow abortion, how do you explain the modern western countries where abortions are legal? All it proves is that , yes, there are some states that continue to live in the dark ages and are run by assholes. How bout next time, try to actually answer my question instead of linking to an article and hoping that I’ll be satisfied. But then again, I guess that’s too much to ask out the modern-day feminist simpletons in society.

Oh yeah, and about the Amazing Atheist, he actually bothers to refute what the feminists. It’s not like he just looks at a feminist and says “haha your ugly, your fat, etc.” You on the other hand, stoop to nothing but personal insults. Pretty much all you do is find people you don’t like, hold them up and say “haha look at these people I don’t like, now point and laugh my personal army of woodworms.” You don’t even bother to explain why you think they’re wrong. It clear to me that somebody doesn’t know how to use the search feature on Youtube.

Woodworms?

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Unimaginative
Unimaginative
11 years ago

My goodness, what a charming correspondent! I’m sure we’ll all be great chums!

OccupyMedic
OccupyMedic
11 years ago

How dare you tell the TRUTH! you are fucking with a misogynistic world view…. Let the cognitive dissidence begin….

Timothy Byrne (@TByrne75)

Was there a signature? Demanding minds need to know!

Maude LL
Maude LL
11 years ago

I think this is an e-mail cats in a David suit sent to Davids in a (fat) ferret suit.

Fatman
Fatman
11 years ago

I want to be a Bespectacled Fat Elder of something, but my vision is too good. Sigh.

Maude LL
Maude LL
11 years ago

Cognitive dissidence = when an MRA brain revolts and leaves to fight misandry on its own.

CL
CL
11 years ago

“I mean, men hold no where near as much power as they’ve had in the past.”

BAM. For once, they nailed it. A clear thesis statement of what they’re actually pissed about.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

Wow. That was special. Where do these people come from, Jesus.

kittehserf
11 years ago

Huh. How could that possibly be, with both of us being fat and wearing glasses? I’ll have to bring it up at the next meeting of the Bespectacled Fat Elders of the Internet.

I notice you’re not mentioning the beard, David. Why are you not mentioning the beard? What is the beard hiding?* Is this a ploy by the Furrinati to distract attention from the Great Bearded Ones?

*If it’s the remains of lunch I Do Not Want To Know.

neuroticbeagle
neuroticbeagle
11 years ago

@LBT
I don’t know. It’s really hard to imagine them coming from a vagina- maybe somebody’s asshole? 😛

Ally S
11 years ago

This guy is more bland than a bagel without cream cheese.

neuroticbeagle
neuroticbeagle
11 years ago

@auggziliary
Maybe the stupidest ones believe that, but I think most mras know that men had/have more power than women and they want it to stay that way.

kittehserf
11 years ago

ROFL neuroticbeagle, those are the best! Especially the last one. We just need to add a suit and there it is, cats in a David suit, complete with cat beard.

lowquacks
lowquacks
11 years ago

Wait, isn’t David’s beard more of a goatee/circle-beard arrangement? Of course they’d end up in different meetings of internet types based on physical characteristics! What a silly email.

Are body type, visual ability, and beardedness the only things that determine someone’s views and personality, then? Why weren’t they on the survey?!?

For the record, I don’t wear glasses, do have a beard, and I’m thinnish. Why I prefer reading David’s posts to, say, enjoying the work of fellow thin bearded non-glasses-wearer Russell Brand? Why do I not get my political commentary from the New York Times‘ thin bearded non-glasses-wearing resident right-wing idiot Ross Douthat? Have I been doing everything wrong? Do I need to shave, put on weight, lose visual acuity, or some combination of these? How do I know which ones will express my personality and views best?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Well that was boring.

“*If it’s the remains of lunch I Do Not Want To Know.”

According to my brother, yes, it’s storage for when he gets hungry later. (And combed with the cat’s brush, which she hates, unlike the lint roller, which she’s indifferent to)

Dear emailer:

Why is one of my cories swimming laps along this side of the tank? This question is of the utmost importance, please answer ASAP!

…please let it be having a minor freak out over barometric pressure, a storm would be a pleasant change.

lowquacks
lowquacks
11 years ago

The focus on determining the view one particular blogger has of one particular dude who makes videos about being sexist and not believing in god was pretty weird too, particularly given that it was something that could be googled pretty easily.

Shiraz
Shiraz
11 years ago

“…(hell, they probably have MORE rights, privileges and opportunities than men have).”

I’d like to see citations, please. And please keep up with current news about how women’s reproductive systems shut-down during “legitimate rape,” according to certain conservative politicians.

From Slate: “Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri, the Republican candidate for the Missouri Senate race, told a St. Louis news station on Sunday that “legitimate rape” rarely causes pregnancy: “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

He later took it back, but this wasn’t a misstatement. It wasn’t a gaffe or a stray bit of medical misinformation that could have attached itself to any one of us. The statement was a crystallization of Akin’s worldview: sexist, blame-shifting, and profoundly ignorant.

In case anybody missed this dig at the “no means no” crowd, “legitimate rape” is a coded phrase meant to distinguish between a stranger attacking you in a parking garage, or, say, your date or your youth pastor doing the same. If you’re tipsy or wearing a short skirt, it’s not rape-rape, etc.”

Women have more rights? Where? Do you mean demanding equality keeps you from being priviledged? Be clear, asshole.

men have).

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

“Are body type, visual ability, and beardedness the only things that determine someone’s views and personality, then? Why weren’t they on the survey?!?”

1) because I couldn’t care less
2) no one suggested it

*waves glasses at the thread* I’d have to put on weight to attend the bespectacled meeting though.

And really fish, please be predicting the weather, this 8-fucking-4% humidity thing is just wonky (weirdest part is that it actually doesn’t feel that bad, I have my hair down for the first time in over a week)

In completely random things, I’ve had to explain twice today that carnivorous fish eat other fish and if that makes you want to call them cannibals, so be it.

lowquacks
lowquacks
11 years ago

Argenti, obviously you don’t care about the real issues!!!!!1!

On the fish thing, surely you could only call a fish cannibalistic if it ate other fish of the same species. Who’ve you had to explain this to and in which circumstances?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Both my parents, because my father intends to go fishing tomorrow and I asked for a tiny sliver of fish for my puffers.

And some fish do eat their own species, it isn’t exactly rare. Even non-carnivorous fish sometimes eat their own eggs (yes, literally their own, I have no idea how that’s evolutionarily advantageous)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

I’m pretty sure my mother will be less than thrilled when I tell her I want the bluefish check I’ve been promised cooked before I feed it to them (just in case of parasites)

lowquacks
lowquacks
11 years ago

Yeah, did assume it would happen. It just seems odd to call a fish cannibalistic for calling another fish of a different species – nobody calls people cannibals for eating other mammals or anything.

Hopefully your puffers can get a nice dinner!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

*cheak

And he’s planning on going out on one of those boat trips, so he should be able to get me part of a head since those are usually considered garbage.

Thanks for that point about mammals though, I was stuck on “wtf did you think they eat?”

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