Well, it took them a little while, but the folks at Men’s Rights hate site A Voice for Men have finally figured out an angle on the Trayvon Martin case. According to regular AVFM contributor August Løvenskiolds, the whole thing can be blamed on a woman — specifically, Rachel Jeantel, the friend of Trayvon Martin who was on the phone with him just before he was killed.
According to Løvenskiolds, who seems to know more about what happened that night than it is in fact possible for him to know,
During a post-trial interview with Piers Morgan on CNN, Rachel Jeantel, the reluctant phone witness who was talking to Martin just before Martin assaulted Zimmerman, finally revealed that she had warned Martin that Zimmerman might be gay, or even, a gay rapist preparing to approach Martin.
This isn’t news; Jeantel said in her testimony that she told Martin she was afraid the man following him might be a rapist. But Løvenskiolds moves quickly from “sworn testim0ny” to “making shit up.”
Martin freaked out over the idea that Zimmerman might have sexual designs on him or his family, and this seems to have precipitated the attack on Zimmerman – which, of course, would make the attack a violation of Zimmerman’s human rights as a (purportedly) gay man, and make Jeantel the proxy instigator of the attack.
Yes, that’s right, the whole thing was “violence by proxy” instigated by an evil homophobic woman.
Would you like some armchair psychoanalysis to go with your unfounded speculation?
So, Trayvon Martin was killed in the act of gay-bashing (in Jeantel’s and his own minds, anyway). The fury of Martin’s sudden turnabout attack is now explicable (he had been avoiding being followed up to the point of the introduction of the gay rapist idea) and it indicates the degree of Martin’s revulsion that he went from flight to fight mode in so short a time.
And this of course makes it all All About The Menz Rights.
The men’s human rights issues related to a woman (Jeantel) being held blameless for using gay/rape threats to precipitate man-on-man violence ought to be obvious.
It’s always a woman’s fault, isn’t it?
Elsewhere in the post, Løvenskiolds seriously suggests that when a police dispatcher told Zimmerman that “we don’t need you” to follow Martin, that was Super Seekret Man Code for “we actually DO need you to follow him.” No, really.
Such negative suggestions are as clear to savvy men as this: “Honey, you don’t need to buy me roses for Valentine’s Day” – meaning, of course, “if you know what is good for you, I’d better get flowers AND chocolate AND jewelry AND a nice dinner AND…”
The fact that the dispatcher further expected Zimmerman to meet with officers – drafting Zimmerman into the militia, as it were – made it clear to Zimmerman that his continued pursuit of Martin was expected by the police as well.
The societal expectation of militia service by all able-bodied adult males is certainly a men’s human rights issue and an indication of inequality between the genders that needs to be redressed.
MRAs may not be good at much, but they’ve got mental gymnastics down to a science.
EDIT: I added a graf after the first quote from Løvenskiolds clarifying that Jeantel says she did in fact tell Martin that she thought Zimmerman might be a rapist.
That sounds like Caesar’s problem, not Cleopatra’s. Are you suggesting that men are too impulsive and easily controlled to hold positions of power?
RE: SocialKenny
it still illustrates how woman have been behind the downfall of important men throughout history: mythical or not.
Gee, I wonder who on earth had a vested interest in blaming their failings on women? Rome was a seething hotbed of intrigue and fighting for power, and Caesar was known for getting in over his head with the men and women of his affections.
If you’re going to argue stupid shit like this, I can equally argue that men have been behind the downfall of important women throughout history. It was the ROMANS who took away Cleopatra’s empire, after all.
And to be clearer, Caesar (I believe) was so drunk on Cleopatra that he allowed his empire to fall just because of this 1 hot ass: hot-black ass might I add
Oh dear. You really don’t know your history, do you? Cleopatra was a Ptolemy. They were lily-white. It’s fairly likely she had NO actual Egyptian ancestry at all, and it was actually a historical big deal that she could even SPEAK Egyptian.
You’re embarrassing me with your complete failed understanding of history. Please go.
@AK – I hear you but she facilitated that and was scheming like trying to create a rift between Caesar and his army. But I don’t wanna turn this into a battle of history and lead this off topic.
Ermagerd, Rogan, Mac, Sneak, that MST was brilliant!
Argenti, thanks for the link, I’ve been laughing out loud and wanting to copy half of it to quote!
Those g0ys … unflippin’believeable. They’re like the
gaytotally masculine dudebro beddable-buddy-with-extra-dashes version of the MRM. They definitely went to the same writing school.@LBT- She was of lighter complexion because of that admixture or races, but nevertheless, according to the way Americans do it (assuming you live in America), once you have any sort of black in you; you’re classified as black and now white. So either way, it is what it is. But you’re right; she wasn’t pure black, but the blackness in her gave her that exotic appeal which they weren’t used to seeing in Rome. Anyway, different story.
@LBT – And don’t try schooling me on history, race, the Bible nor religion, because I’ll drown you…metaphorically.
RE: SocialKenny
I hear you but she facilitated that and was scheming like trying to create a rift between Caesar and his army.
Uh, actually, she needed Caesar’s army as support so she could stay in power and keep her younger brother from trying to exile her again. Seriously, man, you’re batting zero here.
But I don’t wanna turn this into a battle of history and lead this off topic.
Dude, too late. You’ve already posted off-topic shit, and you’ve already lost the battle of history. You’re wrong. You don’t know shit. Now go.
RE: Kittehs
*bows* Thank you, thank you. And yes, they’re totally dudebros who can’t bear the fact that getting their dicks hard with their ‘stud-buddies’ might force them to question their masculinity. And you weren’t even there for the whole ‘jazillion amorous mating sperm’ thing.
RE: SocialKenny
And don’t try schooling me on history, race, the Bible nor religion, because I’ll drown you…metaphorically.
*snort* I’m shaking in my boots.
She was Queen of Egypt, so don’t pull the shit about her “pulling down important men”. She was a political leader herself, of a kingdom far older and more prestigious than Rome; also drop the BS about her being black. She was Greek; Ptolemy I was Macedonian, one of Alexander’s generals, and as LBT said, Cleopatra probably had little or no Egyptian, let alone Nubian or any other African ancestry except in the sense that all humans do.
And keep your fucking gross PUA videos out of here.
Is socialkenny stupid or a poe?
Also, hey guys, I’m throwing another writeathon soon. Do you think it’d be better for me to try and resurrect the forum, post about writeathons there? I’d like to let people know, because I know some Boobzers prompt and sponsor, but I don’t want to spam the site either. What do y’all think?
Rogan, I’m so glad you love Mac’s kidneys. That is twue love!
@sarahlizhousespouse – I’d go for stupid at this point.
socialkenny, stop spamming with the pua videos.
RE: Kittehs
His kidneys are the best.
Rogan – I’m kinda fond of Louis’s liver, myself. 😉
@David- The video was inserted inadvertently as I meant to put the link in as my url as I usually do. Simply remove the video link. It was inadvertent.
Alas, poor Cleopatra. All she wanted was to keep her empire independent, and instead she’s painted in history as Slutty McSkankerton.
I swear, the more I hear from the manosphere, the less I can respect what people claim masculinity is. It’s the toughest, strongest thing on earth–but breaks at the slightest appearance of a woman. It’s rational and logical in all situations… until a woman appears.
Seriously, it makes the Green Lanterns’ weakness to the color yellow looks reasonable..
I retract my original agreement, I mistaken thought he was saying that women have been unfairly blamed, not that women are to blame.
In completely random things, does anyone have any advice how to keep the inside of my 2g plugs dry in this humidity. Even just a tiny bit of saliva to get them back in is ending up indefinitely wet, and ew. I’d use alcohol to get them in to avoid that, but they’re silicon and specifically say not to do that.
So uh…lube that’ll dry in relatively contained humidity and not damage silicone, ideas?
Yeah, when men fight eachother its ALWAYS because of women. Even if there isn’t a single woman present, a woman is always to blame because, somewhere, at some point in time, those men encountered a woman and women cause the downfall of all men, so it’s her fault.
And, as I’ve witnessed more than my fair share of fights (fighting to settle differences is very common where I’m from,) I’ve screwed over and brought down a ton of men. Because, in some way, they had to be fighting because of me and the other women present. Even when they had a completely unrelated issue to fight over.
Just doing my part for the hive vagina.
@Argenti: Vinegar should work nicely.
RE: auggziliary
I know, right! I’m starting to wonder why the hell I ever WANTED to be masculine, as a wee gay man. I swear to god, there’s no substance more frail, whiny, and overrated.
auggziliary — it’s much easier to keep those plugs dry! Seeing how they aren’t always // nearly always keeping skin in contact with their surface.
Nova — I will have to try that, thank you!
Well, I smell like cabbage, but I think that got them cleaned out and I got the plugs back in easy enough. And smelling like cabbage is certainly better than smelling like ear gunk! Thanks Nova!
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