Ladies! Here, fresh from the MensRants subreddit is A Man With Whom You Do Not Want To Be Friends. Or acquaintances. Or anything, really. To be honest, you probably don’t even want this guy to spot you at a distance from the window of a speeding train. Much T.M.I. in this quote:
Dude, I would seriously suggest you start masturbating. A lot. Preferably not in public.
And try not to bother any actual women for a while, at least until you can start conceptualizing of them as something more than objects (like candy or books) that have been set out for you to use as you please.
Also, your “mad and furious master?” “Mad and furious master?” Did you really just write that? I think you mean your boner. If you want to get fancy, your libido. What are you, Heartiste? Can none of you idiots write about sex without getting all purple prosey on us?
I am disgusted and repelled by this person, who has pretty much stated flat-out that he only thinks of me and people like me as masturbatory aids — at least for those of us who he is willing to call “women.” The rest of us he doesn’t even acknowledge at all. I’m going to go ahead and express that disgust because be deserves it. Maybe he should moderate his language a little bit by saying fewer sickeningly horrible things, and then he won’t end up wounded by my disapproval.
I fail to see where reddit Men’s Rants is a “helping” environment.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=1097#comic
Dvärghundspossen, that is all true. There`s totally a chance I`m giving this guy too much credit, but I guess I just have hope for quite a few MRAs in general. I think a lot of them are manipulated by the awful higher-ups into thinking that everything terrible in their heads is all good, when it clearly isn`t. Certainly not saying that they are all poor little victims or anything, but it does make me sad seeing the obviously hurt people (sounds like a lot of them have had messy divorces, a few seem like they were abused sexually, etc.) be fed this hateful bullshit. There`s this idea that any sort of empathy for women is wrong amongst them, making me wonder how many of them purposely frame questions like OPs in an overly tough manner just to not get called a pussy.
When people compare them to white nationalists, they do so for a few different reasons. When I do it, it`s because I see a lot of bitter people who had a few bad experiences who got told by a bunch of hateful, crazy douchebags that all of their problems can be blamed on one particular group. It makes me hate a lot of them, but feel bad for more. It doesn`t make me think their actions and words are excusable or anything, I just feel shitty thinking about what kind of mindset the latter group must be in.
So yea, that`s were I`m coming from with all this. I`m assuming that there are quite a lot who generally want help with a lot of things, but are in the worst place possible for it.
I’ve heard a lot of men talk about being controlled by their boners, and I am asking honestly: can’t you just masturbate more frequently? Seriously, why wouldn’t that work?
“brave confession” was meant with the deepest irony. And I agree 100% with Viscaria.
@Cloudia A guy in that thread quoted from http://therationalmale.com/2013/07/15/beer-and-boobs/
Compare and contrast to the OP here, and the “that’s normal, women are just holes” r/mr comments. Who is characterizing men as demonic walking hard-ons, again?
The truth is, it has absolutely nothing to do with the feeling of being controlled by desire or not having agency in the face of being attracted to a woman. It has to do with the belief that if a man desires a woman and does not have sex with her, then he has been emasculated. They know that they CAN control themselves. They just think that it makes them losers or effeminate if they HAVE TO control themselves. That’s the screwed-up part.
Oh Cloudia, thank you, I’m cracking up over the tortured wails of “Oh the humanity, how could they rob us of our culture! Our doodbro culture! We poor, subjugated men! Oh the indecency of this appropriation!”
I just can’t. I really can’t. It’s just too myopic to take seriously.
“Somewhat off topic, but what is the worse feminist you can think of? Like the most straw feministy feminist ever.”
It’s a tie between Mary Daly and Cathy Brennan for me.
He is a raving sex beast … but also an intellectual. So sexy. He just wants knowledge, you know. And to suck on some breasts. Is that too much to ask?
And by the way, that whole “having sex with a woman is like reading a book” is such a tired cliche. After Milan Kundera’s spirited defense of serial cheating as an intellectual activity, nothing new can be said here.
So I wonder about people like this. If they have a female boss, do they think of her sexually? If they were to have a daughter, would they?
@Cthulhu’s Intern – I’m going to go with definitely yes on the boss question, and maybe yes on the daughter one. If they don’t actually want to molest their daughter, probably they will be obsessed with keeping her “pure,” because don’t you know that feeeemales are nothing but objects into which dicks can be inserted.
baileyrenee, read and understood.
I just can’t help but wonder what he thinks of his mom. :/
Womens bodies being books in a library. Womens bodies being things he can do things too. Nope, sorry no sympathy here.
Um…what?
I really don’t understand why the so-called “friendzone” is treated with dread – but I suppose that’s what happens when you expect sex from every person you come across (not literally, of course). Having female friends isn’t really “torture” if you enjoy their company – I usually do – and it is not like you are unable to seek others in different places either.
Don’t buy the “I can’t control my urges!” arguments, either. There’s plenty of men who, every single day, are able to compose themselves around women. I’m pretty sure some of those men may find them attractive – but they don’t obsess over the fact those women may not sleep with them. They either relieve themselves at home (you’d think it’d be ab obvious option) or, alternatively, look elsewhere for a partner. It’s a lot more sensible than getting mad over the fact you can sleep with a specific person, simply because they may lack interest in you sexually or probably already seeing someone else. It’s not the worst thing that can happen to you…except when you have the weird fixation like MRAs and PUAs apparently do.
*Getting over the fact you CAN’T sleep with a specific person, anyway…
Gah, really need to proof-read these posts.
I read it as the indirect boast style of male bonding.
Particularly since how do others do it is rhetorical in light of the fact that he thinks they are as good as dead.
It’s OPs like this that make me wonder if I really, REALLY missed something while I was on hormones or some shit. I NEVER had this problem where I literally wanted to bang HALF THE WORLD’S POPULATION.
Also, if he IS a teenager… well, sucks to be him, but we also rigged our life around trying to look as unappealing as possible to those people so we could be treated like humans. (SURPRISE IT DIDN’T WORK.) There’s a limited amount of sympathy I can have for him.
Masturbation doesn’t count for them, because it’s not “real” sex, so they don’t get the ego boost/bragging rights/feelings of conquest that goes along with having sex with a woman.
The don’t seem to be strangers to porn, so I’d guess masturbation is already a pretty big feature in their lives, but it’s not enough for them. A lot of them don’t even seem to like women much, as far as spending time with them for it’s own sake. Yet they still want to fuck them, so they can stroke their own egos and prove how “cool” they are.
Even if you did miss out on it – it’s preferable to avoid thinking that way at all.
Considering my days as a hormonal teenager, it wasn’t an issue for me – I had female friends and never felt that way (just hanging out with them was fine). I know it was for other guys at my school but…they were assholes as is. Especially just about everyone on the football team – which I still regret having joined for Freshman year. Just about every person on the team was a misogynistic, homophobic, racist dude-bros with the intelligence of particle board (though that may be redundant since that applies to most dude-bros).
I really don’t miss it. At all.
Which makes it bewildering MRAs seek out sexual validation – they don’t like women whatsoever or having a serious relationship of any sort. I know MGTOW claim to remain celibate, but their reason for it is due to…a hatred of women and the fact they will not sleep with them. They certainly like to talk about such.
It’d be one thing if they happened to really like the person and were frustrated with the fact they couldn’t be with them – but obviously that’s never the case with MRAs. Unless you count all the “nice guys”, but they’re just delusional.
Same here. My school, like many public schools in suburban areas it seems, seemed rather proud of its sports program and gave special privileges to many jocks. Most of them were terrible students but nonetheless got by academically to go to the next grade (convenient, that…). There’s also the fact they vandalized the school facilities often and got little more than a slap on the wrist. Bullying? Completely ignored. Except the one time I got mad enough to get into a fight with one of them, who provoked it – I got two weeks suspension.
The Steubenville incident infuriated me because, well, the rapists weren’t all that different from the guys on my team. That and the fact they got away with so much – often under the misguided protection of their friends and faculty members who had invested interest in the sports program. Same went with the scandal at Penn. State and supposed intellectuals like Malcom Gladwell trying to dismiss the notion any children were mistreated. Though Alan Dershowitz’s argument was even worse when it came to defending Paterno…
When you consider the long history of various athletes involved in assault and battery – when not outright murder or even molestation – it’s hard to ignore the fact our culture seems to enable it. As if the fact having the skills to play football or basketball or baseball renders them immune from most moral or legal restraints. Were they not professional athletes whatsoever – it’s likely they would be severely punished for such (particularly if they also happen to be black). Then again, U.S. culture – at this point and time – seems to revel in bully-worship (being a sociopathic, decadent businessmen seems to be the fantasy of a number of people on the internet as well as many business and economics majors I’ve met in college) over intellectual, creative, or scientific achievement.