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Don’t Be That Rape Apologist: Arthur Koestler, Judgy Bitch, and why MRAs hate rape awareness campaigns

Arthur Koestler: Brilliant writer, serial rapist?
Arthur Koestler: Brilliant writer, serial rapist?

Today I’m going to talk about Janet Bloomfield — AKA JudgyBitch — and her bizarre attack on the original Don’t Be That Guy anti-rape posters in Edmonton. But I’m going to take a bit of a detour first, so bear with me.

I recently picked up a copy of Arthur Koestler’s The Case of the Midwife Toad, a nonfiction account of a scientific feud that provided me with some diverting travel reading and put me in the mood to read more of Koestler’s nonfiction.

But doing some rudimentary Googling I made a rather horrifying discovery about Koestler, whom I’d admired since reading his bracing account of breaking with Communism in the classic The God That Failed anthology: according to a recent biographer, Koestler was a serial rapist and abuser of women.

While some doubt the evidence of rape, even his supporters have had to acknowledge, as one reviewer has written, that Koestler’s “treatment of the many women in his life [was] – even without the ‘rape’ – deeply unpleasant. He was manipulative, demanding, sexually voracious and utterly faithless.”

Koestler himself doesn’t exactly make a persuasive witness for his own defense, having once written to his second wife that “without an element of initial rape there is no delight.”

But in some ways as eye-opening as these revelations has been the response of some of Koestler’s defenders. Case in point: Michael Scammell, the author of a nearly 700-page biography of Koestler. After detailing many instances of Koestler’s mistreatment of women, he writes of the accusations of violent rape:

The exercise of male strength to gain sexual satisfaction wasn’t exactly uncommon at that time … The line between consensual and forced sex was often blurred.

Hey, it was the 1950s. EVERYBODY raped women back then.

The sad fact is that, while this is no defense of Koestler’s alleged behavior, there is an element of truth to Scammell’s claims. The line between consensual sex and rape was often blurred back then. Women were often cajoled, pressured, manipulated, and forced into sex by more physically powerful men. And neither party necessarily recognized what had happened as rape.

The fact that the line between consensual sex and rape is a lot clearer today — and that the rate of rape has declined markedly in the past several decades — is largely due to feminism. Feminism challenged older attitudes and definitions of rape and worked at changing these attitudes through education and awareness campaigns.

Feminist activists worked on teaching — and reteaching — both men and women what is and what isn’t acceptable sexual behavior.

It’s an ongoing process, which continues in awareness campaigns like this one, the Don’t Be That Guy campaign launched in Edmonton (and elsewhere):

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It’s pretty clear that there’s a lot more work to be done, as the reactions to this campaign have pretty clearly shown.

Anyone who has read much in the so-called manosphere — on MRA and PUA sites alike — will have noticed a lot of alarmist nonsense about the alleged difficulties men have in determining if a sex act with a woman is consensual or not, as if it is simply impossible, if there is any confusion, for men to open their mouths and ask. MRAs and PUAs act as if obtaining consent “the way feminists want it” would consist of some complicated legalistic procedure that would ruin sex forever.

This is patent nonsense. Clarifying issues of consent about (and during) sex — making anything that’s blurry clear — can be done in less time than it takes to read this sentence.

“Do you like this?” “Yes.”

“Do you want me to [incredibly dirty thing]?” “Yes.”

But, as I said, the MRAs and PUAs complaining about the alleged difficulties of consent don’t really seem to be interested in making things clear. They would, it seems, rather have things as blurry as possible.

And that’s because a lot of them want to return to a world in which, to paraphrase that quote from Scammell above, the exercise of male strength to gain sexual satisfaction isn’t exactly uncommon, and in which the line between consensual and forced sex is often blurred.

They would prefer to return to a world in which it’s considered fair game to “take advantage” of seriously drunk women. One in which all accusations of date rape could be dismissed as the result of a fickle woman changing her mind later.

And that, I think, is why MRAs have such a problem with date rape awareness campaigns like Edmonton’s Don’t Be That Guy campaign — which they try to both ridicule as unnecessary and denounce as an exercise in Nazi-style anti-male propaganda. Sometimes both at the same time.

Consider, for example, Janet Bloomfield/JudgyBitch’s recent A Voice for Men post on the Edmonton poster controversies. Bloomfield — who apparently likes to think of herself as one of those no-nonsense women who can get by just fine without any help from feminists, thank you very much — begins by trying to ridicule the original Don’t Be That Guy posters as simple-minded, obvious and utterly unnecessary.

Referring to several specific posters from the original campaign, she writes:

No, obviously, you should not be having sex with a woman so drunk she is passed out face down on the couch with her ass in the air. …

Obviously, helping a drunk woman home does not entitle you to sex.

And in what is going to come as SHOCKING news to everyone, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with you, you should not have sex with them.

I’ll give you a while to process that information, because I’m sure that until this clever campaign came along, you were all busy screwing comatose girls at parties and gleefully hailing cabs so you could help ladies home and then rape them.

That would be very witty and pointed but for the fact that, guess what, men do attempt to “have sex” with women who are passed out or asleep, and that there are plenty of men who seem to think that this counts as a sort of “no harm, no foul, no rape” situation.

Take a look at the discussion whenever this topic comes up on Reddit, for example. Or consider all those supporters of Julian Assange who pretend that the issue is women changing their mind after sex when in fact one of the things he’s been accused of is penetrating a woman sans condom while she was sleeping.

And as for “taking advantage” of seriously drunk women, well, there are plenty of men who think this is perfectly fine — and some who make this the centerpiece of their “seduction” technique. Indeed, one prominent PUA — Roosh V — has confessed to doing just that with one woman who was clearly too drunk to consent:

While walking to my place, I realized how drunk she was. In America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she legally couldn’t give her consent. It didn’t help matters that I was relatively sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated. I won’t rationalize my actions, but having sex is what I do.

Somehow this confession — boast? —  hasn’t, to my knowledge, earned him any condemnations from manosphere or MRA bloggers, or even, it seems, cost him any fans.

Meanwhile, on the very site Bloomfield is publishing her post, Paul Elam blames drunk women for being sexually assaulted, writing (as I pointed out yesterday) that women who drink with men are, “freaking begging” to be raped,

Damn near demanding it. … walk[ing] though life with the equivalent of a I’M A STUPID, CONNIVING BITCH – PLEASE RAPE ME neon sign glowing above their empty little narcissistic heads.

After dismissing the Don’t Be That Guy campaign as so much silliness,  Bloomfield makes a sudden 180 degree turn and declares it the virtual equivalent of Nazi propaganda against Jews.

Which would be offensive if it weren’t so manifestly absurd. The Don’t Be That Guy campaign isn’t directed at men, per se. It’s directed at men WHO THINK IT’S OK TO RAPE WOMEN and/or MEN WHO MAKE EXCUSES FOR RAPISTS.

A good number of these men — and some women with similar beliefs — seem to spend much of their time reading and/or writing for manosphere sites like Roosh V’s blog and A Voice for Men.

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Petey
11 years ago

“Hey Petey, what would it take to convince you that what we say is true, based on the evidence we’ve looked at, actually is true?”

Well, as you know I am a 9/11 “truther” (whatever that means) which implies a deep skepticism about any claims whether made by those in authority (especially by those in authority) or made by others. A lot of the statistics pushed by feminists are dubious for the simple reason that they have a vested interest in inflating them. You don’t get money from the public purse if you can’t show at least somewhat convincingly that sexual assault is a problem.

So in other words, quite a lot.

pecunium
pecunium
11 years ago

Petey: It’s Ad hominem (latin, “against the person. Ad hominom would be Lolcat, Against the noms).

Insults aren’t ad hominem. Attacks on your position aren’t ad hominem.

Saying, for example, that red-headed men can’t be trusted, that’s an ad hominem. Saying someone who supports rape might have a reason (i.e. they have done, or want to do, things which would be considered rape by society) isn’t.

It may be insult (it may also be true), but it’s not saying your arguments are invalid.

We have mixed them (it’s part of the whole, “mysogyny, I mock it,” which drives the place). If you don’t like it, well the door is always open. No one is keeping you here but yourself.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

You don’t get money from the public purse if you can’t show at least somewhat convincingly that sexual assault is a problem.

Where the fuck’s my check?

Petey
11 years ago

“You need to prove to us (and so yourself) that you are as smart as we are. ”
No I don’t. I am out-numbered and you are hostile to my ideas from the get go. You are anonymous, I am not.

Howard Bannister
11 years ago

You don’t get money from the public purse if you can’t show at least somewhat convincingly that sexual assault is a problem.

Do you know how many men will admit to be rapists if you ask the question ‘have you ever had sex with somebody who did not want to have sex with you?’

Science, do you speak it?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

And no matter how you spell it, hominem’s root is homo, as in human, person. Thus ad hominem is an attack on your character, not your work, not your ideas, your character. Calling your ideas impossible, with detailed explainations how, is actually quite fundamental to debate. That thing you keep saying you want.

Also, oh yeah, this is a mockery site. Not a conspiracy theory site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

So yep, saying that someone would be into BDSM because she was abused, and thus her views on BDSM can be ignored since clearly this isn’t a healthy line of thought? Totally an ad hominem. Calling you a damned fool after refuting your claims in detail? Crass, but not an ad hominem.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Petey: if you have no need to prove how smart you are, why are you sticking around? It’s not like you’re wanted here.

Petey
11 years ago

Peer review is a joke. I no longer submit my papers for peer-review, I just post them directly to arxiv.org…

Howard Bannister
11 years ago

Calling you a damned fool after refuting your claims in detail? CrassBEAUTIFUL, but not an ad hominem.

Sorry, crass seemed like the wrong word choice there.

Petey
11 years ago

“It’s not like you’re wanted here.”
Oh I am very much wanted here. After all, otherwise all you guys would be doing is sitting around licking each other’s asses and sucking each other’s dicks…

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Peer review is a joke. I no longer submit my papers for peer-review, I just post them directly to arxiv.org…

How shocking from a man who can’t take any criticism. Your ego would be large enough for you to put weak work out there and think it’s the best ever.

katz
11 years ago

But the lack of anonymity is only further evidence that you want validation. You want people to see how awesome you are.

pecunium
pecunium
11 years ago

PS: jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel.

Good thing my citations didn’t claim it does. They said it softened steel. Having worked steel, I can tell you it’s malleable well below the melting temperature. It can be bent, by hand, when it’s still black to the eye. It’s not good for the tool, but it can be done.

Pity you like to twist facts so.

katz
11 years ago

Peer review is a joke. I no longer submit my papers for peer-review, I just post them directly to arxiv.org…

Surprise, surprise!

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

After all, otherwise all you guys would be doing is sitting around licking each other’s asses and sucking each other’s dicks…

And having much more fun than dealing with you, shitstain.

Is that supposed to be an insult? I just call it Thursday.

Howard Bannister
11 years ago

Peer review is a joke. I no longer submit my papers for peer-review, I just post them directly to arxiv.org…

…said no serious scientists ever.

Petey
11 years ago

“Do you know how many men will admit to be rapists if you ask the question ‘have you ever had sex with somebody who did not want to have sex with you?’”

Except you get similar numbers if you ask women the same question. So much for that one…

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

How do you know you’d get similar numbers, Peteykins?

Fibinachi
11 years ago

“Do you know how many men will admit to be rapists if you ask the question ‘have you ever had sex with somebody who did not want to have sex with you?’”

Except you get similar numbers if you ask women the same question. So much for that one…

… wait, hold up.

So much for which one? That sometimes people rape someone? No one is claiming it’s a male only cri.. What?

And how does tennis tie in to all of this?

And weren’t you supposed to be civil?

And how does a standard variance of just a little – giving a generally more broad sample size – mean women are somehow not going to be good at programming?

And how does any of this relate to rape posters?

And did you intend to earn no money? Or do you just feel people you should give you stuff because sometimes it happens?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Doesn’t trust BJS stats, would rather go with ASSFAX. Believes false accusations are as common as rape, because ASSFAX. Refuses to submit to peer-review, because he’s smarter than them. Believes 9/11 was an inside job because he’s a skeptic that refuses to evaluate the validity of the claims of it being an inside job.

Remind me why I should give a shit?

katz
11 years ago

The funny thing is he’s actually proven one of his own claims. Everything he does has no connection to other human beings and is completely done by himself alone at home, seen by nobody, relevant to nobody. So anyone could be as successful as him, regardless of gender.

The question is: Why would they want to?

Shaenon
11 years ago

Truly intelligent people have a strong internal compass. We have the awareness to evaluate the quality of our own work without looking towards others.

Um…okay. Good luck with your scientific work that no one but you can evaluate. I’m sure that’s a fruitful approach, especially with your habit of accepting or rejecting data based purely on feelings.

You still haven’t answered by question from last night. What’s the reason there are fewer women than men in most scientific fields?

I post under my real name too. You’re free to mock my work if you like, except that you can’t because it’s awesome.

sarahlizhousespouse
11 years ago

Petey, you haven’t used evidence to back up your ideas and have also used numerous fallacies to reach your conclusions. That’s poor argumentation. When you were asked for evidence you simply said “go do some research” while the opposition has provided links and reports which conflict with your statements. How exactly is the opposition to know what evidence your premise is based on if you don’t provide that evidence?

pecunium
pecunium
11 years ago

Oh I am very much wanted here. After all, otherwise all you guys would be doing is sitting around licking each other’s asses and sucking each other’s dicks…

They all think they are special. We do enjoy having someone volunteer to be a cat’s paw, but it’s sort of the way one enjoys picking at a scab. You will leave, and the next one will come to be played with. Some will come back (Pell, Mr. Al, Eoghan), but eventually all depart into the great void.

In the meanwhile we have fish, and horses, and kittens, and plants, and work, and lovers, and kids, and life,and recipes, etc. to talk about. We have a community here.

You aren’t interested in becoming a part of it (because the bar to entrance is intellectual honesty).

pecunium
pecunium
11 years ago

Ooh… a specious argument: A lot of the statistics pushed by feminists are dubious for the simple reason that they have a vested interest in inflating them.

Want to see that in a new light?

A lot of the statistics pushed by The MRM are dubious for the simple reason that they have a vested interest in inflating them.

See how that works… null content. You have nothing to support your contention, save your opinion. That, a five-spot will get you a latte.

I can well understand why (having looked at the Ozone mapping “project”) why you don’t like peer review. It’s sort of the opposite of external validation to have evidence poured on your theses, sort of like Halon on a fire.

So what branch of mathematics did you pull a Newton to someone else’s Leibniz?

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