Today I’m going to talk about Janet Bloomfield — AKA JudgyBitch — and her bizarre attack on the original Don’t Be That Guy anti-rape posters in Edmonton. But I’m going to take a bit of a detour first, so bear with me.
I recently picked up a copy of Arthur Koestler’s The Case of the Midwife Toad, a nonfiction account of a scientific feud that provided me with some diverting travel reading and put me in the mood to read more of Koestler’s nonfiction.
But doing some rudimentary Googling I made a rather horrifying discovery about Koestler, whom I’d admired since reading his bracing account of breaking with Communism in the classic The God That Failed anthology: according to a recent biographer, Koestler was a serial rapist and abuser of women.
While some doubt the evidence of rape, even his supporters have had to acknowledge, as one reviewer has written, that Koestler’s “treatment of the many women in his life [was] – even without the ‘rape’ – deeply unpleasant. He was manipulative, demanding, sexually voracious and utterly faithless.”
Koestler himself doesn’t exactly make a persuasive witness for his own defense, having once written to his second wife that “without an element of initial rape there is no delight.”
But in some ways as eye-opening as these revelations has been the response of some of Koestler’s defenders. Case in point: Michael Scammell, the author of a nearly 700-page biography of Koestler. After detailing many instances of Koestler’s mistreatment of women, he writes of the accusations of violent rape:
The exercise of male strength to gain sexual satisfaction wasn’t exactly uncommon at that time … The line between consensual and forced sex was often blurred.
Hey, it was the 1950s. EVERYBODY raped women back then.
The sad fact is that, while this is no defense of Koestler’s alleged behavior, there is an element of truth to Scammell’s claims. The line between consensual sex and rape was often blurred back then. Women were often cajoled, pressured, manipulated, and forced into sex by more physically powerful men. And neither party necessarily recognized what had happened as rape.
The fact that the line between consensual sex and rape is a lot clearer today — and that the rate of rape has declined markedly in the past several decades — is largely due to feminism. Feminism challenged older attitudes and definitions of rape and worked at changing these attitudes through education and awareness campaigns.
Feminist activists worked on teaching — and reteaching — both men and women what is and what isn’t acceptable sexual behavior.
It’s an ongoing process, which continues in awareness campaigns like this one, the Don’t Be That Guy campaign launched in Edmonton (and elsewhere):
It’s pretty clear that there’s a lot more work to be done, as the reactions to this campaign have pretty clearly shown.
Anyone who has read much in the so-called manosphere — on MRA and PUA sites alike — will have noticed a lot of alarmist nonsense about the alleged difficulties men have in determining if a sex act with a woman is consensual or not, as if it is simply impossible, if there is any confusion, for men to open their mouths and ask. MRAs and PUAs act as if obtaining consent “the way feminists want it” would consist of some complicated legalistic procedure that would ruin sex forever.
This is patent nonsense. Clarifying issues of consent about (and during) sex — making anything that’s blurry clear — can be done in less time than it takes to read this sentence.
“Do you like this?” “Yes.”
“Do you want me to [incredibly dirty thing]?” “Yes.”
But, as I said, the MRAs and PUAs complaining about the alleged difficulties of consent don’t really seem to be interested in making things clear. They would, it seems, rather have things as blurry as possible.
And that’s because a lot of them want to return to a world in which, to paraphrase that quote from Scammell above, the exercise of male strength to gain sexual satisfaction isn’t exactly uncommon, and in which the line between consensual and forced sex is often blurred.
They would prefer to return to a world in which it’s considered fair game to “take advantage” of seriously drunk women. One in which all accusations of date rape could be dismissed as the result of a fickle woman changing her mind later.
And that, I think, is why MRAs have such a problem with date rape awareness campaigns like Edmonton’s Don’t Be That Guy campaign — which they try to both ridicule as unnecessary and denounce as an exercise in Nazi-style anti-male propaganda. Sometimes both at the same time.
Consider, for example, Janet Bloomfield/JudgyBitch’s recent A Voice for Men post on the Edmonton poster controversies. Bloomfield — who apparently likes to think of herself as one of those no-nonsense women who can get by just fine without any help from feminists, thank you very much — begins by trying to ridicule the original Don’t Be That Guy posters as simple-minded, obvious and utterly unnecessary.
Referring to several specific posters from the original campaign, she writes:
No, obviously, you should not be having sex with a woman so drunk she is passed out face down on the couch with her ass in the air. …
Obviously, helping a drunk woman home does not entitle you to sex.
And in what is going to come as SHOCKING news to everyone, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with you, you should not have sex with them.
I’ll give you a while to process that information, because I’m sure that until this clever campaign came along, you were all busy screwing comatose girls at parties and gleefully hailing cabs so you could help ladies home and then rape them.
That would be very witty and pointed but for the fact that, guess what, men do attempt to “have sex” with women who are passed out or asleep, and that there are plenty of men who seem to think that this counts as a sort of “no harm, no foul, no rape” situation.
Take a look at the discussion whenever this topic comes up on Reddit, for example. Or consider all those supporters of Julian Assange who pretend that the issue is women changing their mind after sex when in fact one of the things he’s been accused of is penetrating a woman sans condom while she was sleeping.
And as for “taking advantage” of seriously drunk women, well, there are plenty of men who think this is perfectly fine — and some who make this the centerpiece of their “seduction” technique. Indeed, one prominent PUA — Roosh V — has confessed to doing just that with one woman who was clearly too drunk to consent:
While walking to my place, I realized how drunk she was. In America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she legally couldn’t give her consent. It didn’t help matters that I was relatively sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated. I won’t rationalize my actions, but having sex is what I do.
Somehow this confession — boast? — hasn’t, to my knowledge, earned him any condemnations from manosphere or MRA bloggers, or even, it seems, cost him any fans.
Meanwhile, on the very site Bloomfield is publishing her post, Paul Elam blames drunk women for being sexually assaulted, writing (as I pointed out yesterday) that women who drink with men are, “freaking begging” to be raped,
Damn near demanding it. … walk[ing] though life with the equivalent of a I’M A STUPID, CONNIVING BITCH – PLEASE RAPE ME neon sign glowing above their empty little narcissistic heads.
After dismissing the Don’t Be That Guy campaign as so much silliness, Bloomfield makes a sudden 180 degree turn and declares it the virtual equivalent of Nazi propaganda against Jews.
Which would be offensive if it weren’t so manifestly absurd. The Don’t Be That Guy campaign isn’t directed at men, per se. It’s directed at men WHO THINK IT’S OK TO RAPE WOMEN and/or MEN WHO MAKE EXCUSES FOR RAPISTS.
A good number of these men — and some women with similar beliefs — seem to spend much of their time reading and/or writing for manosphere sites like Roosh V’s blog and A Voice for Men.
Here’s to hoping my crowdfunding campaign goes better *fingers crossed*
“Slot availability does not infer percentage of male / female – standards for slots do. And as everyone, obviously, tests the standards, you end up sorting through the people who are qualified – of which there might be, oh, I don’t know, slightly more males on the level of.. 0.12 general standard deviations from the mean compared to females.”
Hilarious. You completely failed to understand it. No point in debating here. The difference in mean is not at all important. In fact most modern surveys show that either there is no difference or women have a very slight (usually not statistically significant) edge. It is the difference in variance that makes all the difference. In other words, the higher up the ability curve you are, the more men there will be.
Non of this says anything about individuals. It is just a matter of percentages and it squares both with empirical observation and with evolutionary psychology. You find: more male CEOs, more male billionaires etc. There’s a very nice summary of the business here:
http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm
Prove it.
Explain the reduction in sexual assaults in the area the posters were put up.
Tell me what, aside from the posters, correlates to the decline. Don’t forget you have control groups: areas where no posters were put up, and sexual assaults didn’t decline.
DAMN THAT ANITA SARKEESIAN!!!
“He’s a watchmaker too! ”
Jesus Christ you people are obtuse. You give me $10000 I’m sure I can find a contractor who will make me the watches.
As for the book, sometimes I try to have a sense of humour, but cowardly assholes like you people make that extremely difficult.
“The difference in mean is not at all important”
O RLY? Is that why I can’t run a t-test on that data without it?
“In other words, the higher up the ability curve you are, the more men there will be.”
Um, not really, the proportion will remain very similar until you get waaaayyy out into the ends of the curve. You know, the area where <99.99% of men fall.
Peteykins doesn’t understand sarcasm, but has a real talent for sulking.
You find: more male CEOs, more male billionaires etc. also more male bums more male more men in prison more male psychotics….
Also, no one is going to give you any money. Just thought I’d rub that in a little.
That’s a pretty expensive watch. I think I’ll stick with the one I bought on the sidewalk in NYC for $12, which still works like a charm 6 years later.
Hold up there, buddy. Everyone knows that’s ‘cos of the pussy pass. Do you want to get your MRA card revoked???
“Um, not really, the proportion will remain very similar until you get waaaayyy out into the ends of the curve. You know, the area where <99.99% of men fall."
Jesus Christ. This is why I shouldn't debate these points. It's just too hard on my nerves. When it comes to statistics and probability, I know what the fuck I'm talking about. I wrote some software in what? statistical classification. Take some statistics courses first, or at least read up on it in Wikipedia. Then come back to me.
And that’s real.
It’s really cowardly of us to make fun of Petey, you guys. A truly brave woman would instead give him a. lots of money, b. a blow job, and c. the emotional satisfaction of pretending we don’t think he’s ridiculous.
And her real name.
*dies laughing* hey guys! I need to take a statistics course!
Hey Petey, let’s try this again, in smaller words. The variance between the curves is low enough that for the first, oh, 2.5 standard deviations, there are not that many less women than men. Less, yes, but not so much so that your claims about no women are remotely valid. Eyeballing the curves, it looks like the one for women bottoms out, so to speak, at about 2.75 SDs (of the male curve).
So since 99.7% of data falls within the first 3 SDs, and we’re only discussing the top tail, there are women at approximately the same ratio to men, at all points between, oh, 1.5~ SD and 2.5 SD? And more women than men at all points lower than that (including within the first SD for the male curve).
Half of 0.3% is 0.15%, which needs to be added to the 99.7% since we don’t care about the lower tail. Leaving us with women either outnumbering men, or at approximately the same ratio as men, for 99.85% of test scores.
Whoops, I guessed the female curve’s 3rd SD was a bit higher than it is. But without the fucking SD and variance for each curve I have to fucking eyeball it.
And a helpful map showing the way to her house, just so any potential angry stalkers don’t have to do too much work.
So Petey, looks like you were having a bit of trouble with your crowdfunding campaign. Care to explain why? Surely, if you wanted it enough, you could have made it happen?
She can borrow my “leave your muscle in the hallway” brother (yeah, seriously, his best friend broke his arm on the job and he drove to the workers comp meeting since, you know, one working arm)
Aw, Peteykins, I’m sorry, that was a bit below the belt of me.
But this:
Victim blaming isn’t illegal, fuckwit. Show me the statute.
Petey’s been able to coast on lazy and smug this far.
Actually, as dumb as the tribute to Petey’s ego in watch form is, the fact that he thinks people would want his book is even funnier.
Petey calls himself a scientist and believes in evo-psych. Huh.
“we’re only discussing the top tail, there are women at approximately the same ratio to men”
Yes, we are only talking about the top tail here. And even just becoming a scientist means you’re near the top. I was talking about the top scientists. I have yet to do the calculations, but the larger the variance ratio (obviously), the sooner the differences will be felt. REally, I’m not sure it’s worth it. This is quite exhausting. I don’t get the impression you people are the slightest bit interested in productive discussion or in getting at the truth of the matter. Just in mockery and ridicule and self congratulation and supporting each other in your unfounded and unjust assumptions. So brave and clever when banded together and anonymous.
I’m smug? Indeed. I’m committing ad hominom arguments? Indeed. There is a word I’m thinking about, but I don’t think I need to write it. You know what it is.
As for the Shroedinger’s Rapist, there have been plenty of refutations of that. It is hateful garbage. Shit like that makes me sick.
You kind of remind me of the deer flies buzzing around me during my evening’s walk…
“So Petey, looks like you were having a bit of trouble with your crowdfunding campaign. Care to explain why? Surely, if you wanted it enough, you could have made it happen?”
I sure as fuck haven’t given up. There are plenty of ways to make a buck…