Today I’m going to talk about Janet Bloomfield — AKA JudgyBitch — and her bizarre attack on the original Don’t Be That Guy anti-rape posters in Edmonton. But I’m going to take a bit of a detour first, so bear with me.
I recently picked up a copy of Arthur Koestler’s The Case of the Midwife Toad, a nonfiction account of a scientific feud that provided me with some diverting travel reading and put me in the mood to read more of Koestler’s nonfiction.
But doing some rudimentary Googling I made a rather horrifying discovery about Koestler, whom I’d admired since reading his bracing account of breaking with Communism in the classic The God That Failed anthology: according to a recent biographer, Koestler was a serial rapist and abuser of women.
While some doubt the evidence of rape, even his supporters have had to acknowledge, as one reviewer has written, that Koestler’s “treatment of the many women in his life [was] – even without the ‘rape’ – deeply unpleasant. He was manipulative, demanding, sexually voracious and utterly faithless.”
Koestler himself doesn’t exactly make a persuasive witness for his own defense, having once written to his second wife that “without an element of initial rape there is no delight.”
But in some ways as eye-opening as these revelations has been the response of some of Koestler’s defenders. Case in point: Michael Scammell, the author of a nearly 700-page biography of Koestler. After detailing many instances of Koestler’s mistreatment of women, he writes of the accusations of violent rape:
The exercise of male strength to gain sexual satisfaction wasn’t exactly uncommon at that time … The line between consensual and forced sex was often blurred.
Hey, it was the 1950s. EVERYBODY raped women back then.
The sad fact is that, while this is no defense of Koestler’s alleged behavior, there is an element of truth to Scammell’s claims. The line between consensual sex and rape was often blurred back then. Women were often cajoled, pressured, manipulated, and forced into sex by more physically powerful men. And neither party necessarily recognized what had happened as rape.
The fact that the line between consensual sex and rape is a lot clearer today — and that the rate of rape has declined markedly in the past several decades — is largely due to feminism. Feminism challenged older attitudes and definitions of rape and worked at changing these attitudes through education and awareness campaigns.
Feminist activists worked on teaching — and reteaching — both men and women what is and what isn’t acceptable sexual behavior.
It’s an ongoing process, which continues in awareness campaigns like this one, the Don’t Be That Guy campaign launched in Edmonton (and elsewhere):
It’s pretty clear that there’s a lot more work to be done, as the reactions to this campaign have pretty clearly shown.
Anyone who has read much in the so-called manosphere — on MRA and PUA sites alike — will have noticed a lot of alarmist nonsense about the alleged difficulties men have in determining if a sex act with a woman is consensual or not, as if it is simply impossible, if there is any confusion, for men to open their mouths and ask. MRAs and PUAs act as if obtaining consent “the way feminists want it” would consist of some complicated legalistic procedure that would ruin sex forever.
This is patent nonsense. Clarifying issues of consent about (and during) sex — making anything that’s blurry clear — can be done in less time than it takes to read this sentence.
“Do you like this?” “Yes.”
“Do you want me to [incredibly dirty thing]?” “Yes.”
But, as I said, the MRAs and PUAs complaining about the alleged difficulties of consent don’t really seem to be interested in making things clear. They would, it seems, rather have things as blurry as possible.
And that’s because a lot of them want to return to a world in which, to paraphrase that quote from Scammell above, the exercise of male strength to gain sexual satisfaction isn’t exactly uncommon, and in which the line between consensual and forced sex is often blurred.
They would prefer to return to a world in which it’s considered fair game to “take advantage” of seriously drunk women. One in which all accusations of date rape could be dismissed as the result of a fickle woman changing her mind later.
And that, I think, is why MRAs have such a problem with date rape awareness campaigns like Edmonton’s Don’t Be That Guy campaign — which they try to both ridicule as unnecessary and denounce as an exercise in Nazi-style anti-male propaganda. Sometimes both at the same time.
Consider, for example, Janet Bloomfield/JudgyBitch’s recent A Voice for Men post on the Edmonton poster controversies. Bloomfield — who apparently likes to think of herself as one of those no-nonsense women who can get by just fine without any help from feminists, thank you very much — begins by trying to ridicule the original Don’t Be That Guy posters as simple-minded, obvious and utterly unnecessary.
Referring to several specific posters from the original campaign, she writes:
No, obviously, you should not be having sex with a woman so drunk she is passed out face down on the couch with her ass in the air. …
Obviously, helping a drunk woman home does not entitle you to sex.
And in what is going to come as SHOCKING news to everyone, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with you, you should not have sex with them.
I’ll give you a while to process that information, because I’m sure that until this clever campaign came along, you were all busy screwing comatose girls at parties and gleefully hailing cabs so you could help ladies home and then rape them.
That would be very witty and pointed but for the fact that, guess what, men do attempt to “have sex” with women who are passed out or asleep, and that there are plenty of men who seem to think that this counts as a sort of “no harm, no foul, no rape” situation.
Take a look at the discussion whenever this topic comes up on Reddit, for example. Or consider all those supporters of Julian Assange who pretend that the issue is women changing their mind after sex when in fact one of the things he’s been accused of is penetrating a woman sans condom while she was sleeping.
And as for “taking advantage” of seriously drunk women, well, there are plenty of men who think this is perfectly fine — and some who make this the centerpiece of their “seduction” technique. Indeed, one prominent PUA — Roosh V — has confessed to doing just that with one woman who was clearly too drunk to consent:
While walking to my place, I realized how drunk she was. In America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she legally couldn’t give her consent. It didn’t help matters that I was relatively sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated. I won’t rationalize my actions, but having sex is what I do.
Somehow this confession — boast? — hasn’t, to my knowledge, earned him any condemnations from manosphere or MRA bloggers, or even, it seems, cost him any fans.
Meanwhile, on the very site Bloomfield is publishing her post, Paul Elam blames drunk women for being sexually assaulted, writing (as I pointed out yesterday) that women who drink with men are, “freaking begging” to be raped,
Damn near demanding it. … walk[ing] though life with the equivalent of a I’M A STUPID, CONNIVING BITCH – PLEASE RAPE ME neon sign glowing above their empty little narcissistic heads.
After dismissing the Don’t Be That Guy campaign as so much silliness, Bloomfield makes a sudden 180 degree turn and declares it the virtual equivalent of Nazi propaganda against Jews.
Which would be offensive if it weren’t so manifestly absurd. The Don’t Be That Guy campaign isn’t directed at men, per se. It’s directed at men WHO THINK IT’S OK TO RAPE WOMEN and/or MEN WHO MAKE EXCUSES FOR RAPISTS.
A good number of these men — and some women with similar beliefs — seem to spend much of their time reading and/or writing for manosphere sites like Roosh V’s blog and A Voice for Men.
Whoops, got my trolls crossed.
And that solved it. Mr. Al is blog herpes, Pell is blog syphillis — three stages of progressing severity.
Heh, @Polliwog are you implying that Pell would have used a word like girls or women other than females while pretending to be a woman himself. 😉
It’s up there with his many other pretenses!
We did have a real Marie around for a while, though, right?
@Argenti, so who’s blog chlamydia?
Yeah we have a legit Marie, she’s Fade’s sister. Idk where they are lately though.
And hmm…all the random trolls? Easily treated but potentially serious. Not inherently recurring, but possible. The banhammer, it’s like penicillin for blogs! Yeah, I like it.
Marie makes my day LMAO god I hope she doesn’t have kids though.
My borfriend is an astronaut and he thinks women drinking in public is acceptable. check mate, you pearl clutching freak.
” how about you actually read about what the Schroedinger’s Rapist idea actually means?”
The only other interpretation is equally easy to counter. See that group of black teenagers on the street corner over there? They’re potential thugs and muggers…
Fuck you, Petey.
The thing is, actual statistics about violence? Suggests that as a white dude, I have absolutely nothing to fear from running into a group of black teenagers.
But they should turn and run the other way when they see me.
No, your little ‘a-ha, you’re totally just being like the racists’ turnaround is disgusting and wrong and fuck you some more.
And it’s not like any PSA ever has been aimed at telling people not to steal…
So Petey thinks determining consent is just too hard & unfair, which makes him a rapist, and he’s totally willing to try to appropriate the the struggle against racism without even trying to understand it, which makes him a racist.
Petey, you are fractally wrong. Fuck right off.
“The thing is, actual statistics about violence? Suggests that as a white dude, I have absolutely nothing to fear from running into a group of black teenagers.”
I’m not sure I should even grace that with a response. I lived in a black area of Washington D.C. In four months there were over 100 homicides, at least two within a two minute walk from my apartment.
How is this comment not equally true of men and rape? Victimization rates for rape are far lower than for robbery or for assault. In fact the rate of victimization for rape is the lowest of any violent crime short of murder.
Petey, be a dear and fuck off. Thanks.
Petey, it’s easy for blacks to be gunned down without anyone being found guilty of murder.
MRAs are doing fuck all about it.
This came up a while back in the comments, but I think this is a good time to finally lay to rest the idea that our modern notion of rape somehow differs from that understood before 1950 (or whichever threshold year you happen to choose.) If you’ve read “A Tale of Two Cities (written in 1859), you know that a large part of the plot revolves around an event that closely corresponds to our modern understanding of rape and the negative consequences of that event. Presumeably the readers understood what he was talking about, since it’s never mentioned explicitly. Also the events are talking place much earlier–during the French Revolution–which implies that “modern” notions of rape have existed for at least 200 years.
So much for the idea that us unevolved men didn’t even know what rape was until enlightened feminists finally informed us of the error of our ways…
I know a bit about DC. Where’d you live?
Howard’s point wasn’t that young black men never commit crimes. He made the point that statistically, most violence is intraracial. Which means that if you’re the victim of a violent crime it’s most likely going to be committed by someone of the same race that you are. Of those “100 homicides” that were committed within blocks of your home, how many of them were white?
Schrodinger’s Rapist does not make that case that all men are potentially rapists. You’ve either never read the original piece or you don’t understand it.
“I know a bit about DC. Where’d you live?”
Anacostia, right on the border between D.C. and Maryland. In fact I’m pretty sure they redrew the border so the apartment building was in Maryland instead of D.C. This was between July of 2001 and July of 2002. I was working in the Naval Research Laboratory when the plane (or whatever it was) hit the Pentagon…
“Petey, it’s easy for blacks to be gunned down without anyone being found guilty of murder.”
There’s no question this is a serious issue in the United States. But then again it was an apartheid nation up until the 1950s Then again, the government practices torture there, is engaged in several illegal wars and regularly invades other sovereign nations’ airspace in illegal and immoral “drone wars”
Actually, I don’t recall feminists ever saying men didn’t understand what rape was until the 60s or 70s, which you imply with this:
“So much for the idea that us unevolved men didn’t even know what rape was until enlightened feminists finally informed us of the error of our ways…”
Though, I’ll tell you what, we get a shitload of rape apologists here who claim men can’t help themselves because of biological imperatives or whatever hunter/gatherer biotruth they want to believe. Regulars here have always called such posters out on their bullshit. In fact, we’re kinda known for that. If you don’t know that already, then you should read some of the old threads. Your accusation is baseless. You’re arguing with a straw feminist.
Straw feminist of the day! And Dickens, really? That’s your argument? LOL.
I lived in a predominantly black area of London (Brixton). It was terrifying! I mean, sometimes young guys with dreads tried to sell me incense outside the tube station? And gave me free samples if I was looking particularly cute that day? And, um, I could smell weed a lot when I was walking around, and there was more Jamaican food than there was food of the typical English “ode to overcooked vegetables and fried sausages” variety? Here my cry of how oppressed I was as a white person in a black neighborhood.
(Note – there is violence in Brixton, but like Nobinayamu said, mostly intra-racial. The only time anyone ever tried to attack me in London it was an old white Irish guy.)
Or hear, even.
So you lived in Ward 8 neighborhood that is known for generational cyclical poverty and economic devastation. I’m familiar with Anacostia.. Economically disenfranchised with a significantly higher rate of violent crime then much of the rest of the city. And the early “aughts” preceded the city’s current economic investment and development of the waterfront so there were a lot of bodies.
How many of the people killed were white?
Remember, everyone, Petey is the one who finds the line between rape and non-rape to be “blurry.”
It’s clear, but it’s not clear. If it would be more convenient at any given moment for it to be unclear then blurry it is!
It’s an often ignored reality.
Guys, click on Petey’s name and then read his piece on Women in Science. So much laughage!