Like a lot of people in the US of A, I am taking a long weekend. Posting may be a little light for a bit. So here’s an open thread for everyone else taking a long weekend. Or not. Use this thread for anything that’s not personal. Like misogyny, politics, kitties, you know the drill. (Though kitties are welcome in all threads, of course.)
I am hoping my long weekend turns out a bit better than that of the people in the Australian movie of that name from 1978, which I keep meaning to see. Apparently their little beach vacation doesn’t go so well, and they are attacked by … nature? At one point, I believe, they face off against an enraged dugong. (No, really.) The movie was recently remade, but apparently the remake wasn’t as good.
Stay tuned for more reviews of movies I haven’t seen and that I’m just giving vague impressions of based on things I’ve heard somewhere.
I will never forget the privilege discussion on Tumblr in which someone said that their mother was oppressing them with her diurnal privilege and nobody said anything. At that point I was pretty much done.
@Argenti: No worries, her first word’ll probably be “fuckface” or something.
Daddy’s gotta tone it down soon.
Falconer, the babbies are adorable. Tiny girl looks like she’s plotting revenge.
Re: Tumblr, I think one’s experience on it is going to depend a lot on who you follow. I like it but I think that’s because I tend to instantly unfollow anybody who’s a douchebag. When I do see horrible shit on there (and there IS a lot of horrible shit on there), it’s because someone I follow reblogged it to comment on how horrible it is.
@Kittehs: AAAAAAAIIIIGH!
Oh, hell, is Oblivious still here? Yeesh, is he going for the merit badge in tediousness?
Argenti, I can’t remember, was there a question about how long people lurked before their first post?
I dunno for what. All we did was haul them out of their crib early on a Saturday and drive for about an hour. She even slept most of that way! And then we changed ’em and fed ’em and THEN I snapped that photo.
He got a 24-hour time-out. So almost an entire Sunday free of his HOW DO WE REEEEELY KNOW FER SUUURE schtick.
All right, I said Avernum and dammit, I mean Avernum.
Niters!
Niters, Falconer!
I wonder how it would turn out if a woman went to The Spearhead or AVfM and complained that they should drop everything to teach women how to attract sexy men. They would probably dox her and threaten her family.
The “May I insert my penis into your vagina line?” would probably work better than most of the PUA tricks. At least it’s to the point, and not annoying like negs, kino, and goofy hats.
I think the worst is when you say you’re married, he says “Where’s he at? I’ll kick his ass”, and then he laughs like a jackass. Come on, it’s not funny, it’s just ridiculous.
“Argenti, I can’t remember, was there a question about how long people lurked before their first post?”
No, and with no ability to do open ended questions idk that it’d matter (and 1640 results! I am so glad I don’t have to sort through open ended replies!)
‘Night Falconer!
It’s a good thing I don’t run this place, I’d let him comment but randomly replace bits of his comments with MY PENIS IS SAD and WHO CARES IF THERE ARE PEOPLE STARVING, SOME FEMALE ON THE SUBWAY DIDN’T WANT TO MATE WITH ME.
RE: Ally S
Pretty much with tumblr, if you can imagine ANY sort of hare-brained privilege explanation for ANYTHING, you will find it there. A lot of people have NO bullshit detector either, and it’s lousy for discussion, so a lot of circle-jerking can ensue.
And forgive me if this sounds very silly for me to ask, but do you have a problem with identity politics in general, or do you just hate how it’s done on Tumblr?
It’s not silly at all! And the answer is… it’s complicated? Like I realize that a lot of identities are inherently political–I mean, I make mental health comics that are sometimes considered radical purely because I postulate that multiplicity isn’t inherently bad. I also realize that for a lot of people, hanging out with similar identities is a life-saver–after all, the online plural community helped me a LOT, in the early days.
That said, it bothers me a lot how there seems to be this free-floating idea (and not just on tumblr) that as long as one sticks to members of your own subculture, you’re ‘safe.’ I mean, maybe it’s just because I splatter across the queer/trans/multi/homeless/mentally ill arenas, but there is NO subculture that I feel truly safe in. In the queer groups, I’m “that trans guy,” in the trans groups, I’m “that crazy guy,” in the comics groups, I’m “that poor girl, and I think she’s gay or something?” Even my beloved plural community exploded in a vicious troll-cycle in 2010, and I left and have pretty much never returned. I have minor fame in the online plural community, but I no longer want anything to do with it.
In my experience, such cloisters are homogenous breeding grounds for codependence and abuse, and people will just keep splitting hairs to find something to lord over. I myself want nothing to do with them, and I find the glorification of them completely antithetical to my experience.
thebionicmommy – and coming from the right person* he could wear a goofy hat as well, and it’d still be funny and sexy!
But of course women as individuals with individual personalities, tastes and (gasp) senses of humour is a concept PUAs will never acknowledge, because it shows their shit for what it is. They can’t even handle the idea that men are also individuals, and a man who’s attractive to one other person won’t be attractive to another. They have to universalise everything from their (made-up?) experiences.
I could accept and enjoy something from Person A** that would be repellent and get a flat rejection from Person B, because of who I am and because of who they are.
*no prizes for guessing who
**ditto
RE: CassandraSays
Yyyyyup. My general formula for tumblr slacktivism:
1. Make vague statement of oppression.
2. State decision to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about this.
3. Break arm patting self on back.
@LBT – “Even my beloved plural community exploded in a vicious troll-cycle in 2010, and I left and have pretty much never returned. I have minor fame in the online plural community, but I no longer want anything to do with it.”
Shit, that’s rotten. I’m sorry that happened. 🙁
There really needs to be a social justice for cats tumblr. Because cats are THE MOST OPPRESSED EVAH.
I only follow Tumblrs that are fashion/nature/goth themed, and then only images. The more text, the less likely I am to follow. Oh and Moby has a cool architecture Tumblr.
OMFG I was so excited for several pages of comments and then it was just Obtuse Files bloviating on for a bazillion words /headdesk/ Well, at least he got a miniban, and maybe foreverban? I’m just gonna sit here and hope for permaban, because christ on a cracker, that dude is just so boringly awful.
That said, your babies are sooo cuuuuute, Falconer! I want some toooooo <3
Well, to be honest those aren’t really my strong suits. Blame it on my ADD, baby.
I can’t see any failures from here.
That’s the way I do it…
So you say.
@LBT
Ah, I see what you mean now. Thanks for explaining. I agree that identity-specific groups can (ironically and unfortunately) be alienating. It’s similar (although not equivalent) to how it feels like to be alienated among people who ostensibly have liberal views just like mine (I’m looking at you, movement atheism!).
I was just wondering because most criticisms of identity politics I’ve seen, at least among fellow anarchists, boil down to “Well, yeah, that’s bad, but let’s ignore the form of oppression that affects you because tearing down the state is the most important thing, and if you try to ask to be treated like an equal, you’re breaking up solidarity!” But what you’ve said is about the only reasonable criticism of identity politics I’ve ever seen, and I’m sorry you had to deal with all of that crap from groups you’re supposed to feel safe in.
dustydeste, seconding all that. First it was “I don’t support rape because I don’t need to rape, because GAME (which is essentially rape but we won’t mention that)” then it was “blame women for rapists’ future actions”. Yeah, dude’s totally not a misogynist, how dare we say so! And the fucking Great Wall of Tedious Creepery in between.
::prays to Ceiling Cat for permaban::
Yeah, that “blaming rape victims for rapists’ futurerapes” bit was waaaay over the fucking line, even without the continued creepitude. And the tedium, dear god, the tedium of even just scrolling past his Great Wall o’ Texts. Just no.