Like a lot of people in the US of A, I am taking a long weekend. Posting may be a little light for a bit. So here’s an open thread for everyone else taking a long weekend. Or not. Use this thread for anything that’s not personal. Like misogyny, politics, kitties, you know the drill. (Though kitties are welcome in all threads, of course.)
I am hoping my long weekend turns out a bit better than that of the people in the Australian movie of that name from 1978, which I keep meaning to see. Apparently their little beach vacation doesn’t go so well, and they are attacked by … nature? At one point, I believe, they face off against an enraged dugong. (No, really.) The movie was recently remade, but apparently the remake wasn’t as good.
Stay tuned for more reviews of movies I haven’t seen and that I’m just giving vague impressions of based on things I’ve heard somewhere.
Dave, THANK YOU.
“But isn’t there an element of coercion already inherent in AAB anyway?”
And therein lies the acronym debate!
Thank you David.
“(Also, oh GOD WHY DID I LOOK UP RAPE CULTURE ON TUMBLR. WHY WAS I SO STUPID. I need to go pour bleach into my eye sockets now.)”
I never bother venturing into Tumblr. Is there a lot of rape apologia there or something? That must be awful. X_X
RE: Falconer
Argenti beat me to it; the ‘C’ stands for ‘coercively.’ And THEN they started fighting over whether using the term ‘assigned’ infringed upon intersex folks and people got incredibly passionate about it, and… and I found I just could not give a single shit. (Well, I cared about intersex folks feeling bullied on. But I was soooo out of shits for caring about using the exact correct acronym for what my goddamn genitals are.)
Seconding that thank you. And I’ll have this all wrapped up in a bow by Monday, running statistics now but am pretty much done.
Thanks David! ^_^
http://youtu.be/hq0GjaBMhhM
I didn’t run intersex v acceptance, not enough people for it to be meaningful, but let me give it the old eyeball.
Back to the conversation about jargon – I really wish social justice oriented spaces would dial that back a bit or a lot. Particularly if you’re in any way claiming to address issues related to class or poverty, insisting that people must know the correct jargon in order to participate doesn’t exactly create the most welcoming environment. It gives the impression that you intend primarily to talk about people rather than to them.
RE: Ally S
Tumblr is a thing that hangs from a tree, and you can’t tell whether it’s a pinata or a beehive until you hit it with a stick and see what comes out. You can find some really cool shit there and it’s great for finding art and shinies… but not gonna lie, I don’t go there much anymore, because it’s such a toxic cesspool of identity politics and frothing rage and backlash that going there, I feel worse. Like, if you want to visit, find a few safe little corners to hang in them, and NEVER LEAVE. (it is FANTASTIC for finding shit like trans art and good porn though.)
It’s also got this terrible issue where a lot of people only have the privilege hammer, and so everything looks like a privilege nail. So you get whackadoos claiming shit like people with EDs just don’t want to give up their thin privilege, and… oh god just never leave your safe corners or you’ll never stop being angry.
RE: CassandraSays
Yes! YESSSSS! What you just said! That, right there! You just said everything I meant only much more succinctly! THANK YOU!
Ok, we only had three intersex people take the survey, but all three are on the agree side of feeling accepted here. N=3 is basically meaningless, but at least they didn’t check the disagree options?
Cuz yeah, don’t like people, of any sort, feeling bullied (except assholes, but they earn it)
Cassandra, yes, it turns into an academic in-group thing in some places. Some twit on Feministe (which hasn’t been too bad lately, I’ve been commenting in some threads) was being condescending a while back. I couldn’t resist throwing in that I’ve written to an actual published historian to ask him what he was talking about in an article I read, and so far from doing the “you should know the lingo if you’re going to read my books” he explained the term, and was pleasantly surprised, I think, at getting a fan letter. (He was also amazed anyone read his first book, ‘cos he said he didn’t really know what he was doing and it was pretty unreadable!)
Oh! I forgot I promised pictures.
Here’s my boy in his carseat (and yes, his octopus buddy has a trucker’s cap and NINE tentacles, don’t ask me, idfk).
And my girl in hers. She is NOT happy.
These were taken at the rest stop on the northbound lane of I-75 just north of the Kentucky-Tennessee border. They got lots of attention that day, and they loved it, although they look kind of tired in these shots (and we’d only been on the road about an hour).
What the fuck does this have to do with the thing that I actually said?
YOU asked someone why she, being married, had a problem with puas, as though being married was some sort of magical get out of getting hit on by douchebags free card.
I pointed out that many puas don’t give a shit if a woman is in a relationship, they’ll still pursue her anyway, hence married women still end up having to deal with puas and their bullshit.
Your response has nothing to do with the point I made.
LOL those expressions, Falconer! Boy Falconer looks so knowing with that little smile, and Girl Falconer … daddy, you just better watch out, that’s all.
Come to think of it, she looks like she’s translated Cat Anger Consequences into Baby Anger Consequences.
@LBT
Yuck. That sounds awful (especially about the attitudes towards people with EDs – WTF?).
And forgive me if this sounds very silly for me to ask, but do you have a problem with identity politics in general, or do you just hate how it’s done on Tumblr?
@ Falconer
Those pics are hilarious. First pic – I am so happy in my onesie and my car seat! Yay! Second pic…
All hail the Dark Lord! Thank you, David.
The victim shaming was over the line. Stay classy, OF.
I just swore at girl Falconer indirectly, I am sorry.
Out the iPad down next to me with her on it and ran acceptance in general for mental disability and HOLY SHIT. This doesn’t require more than eyeballing it, this difference is HUGE. Like “agree” is expected (using the data for people without any disability) to be 126~, it’s 62. For “disagree” it should be 10, it’s 48.
This isn’t an artifact of slight differences in how accepted we crazies feel, this is a ridiculously huge “no, society does not accept us”. I am (obviously) not surprised, but DAMN.
Tangentially, 5 crazy pills, got a regular anti-depressant added (well, Wellbutrin, which isn’t “regular” per se, but isn’t my mood stablizer is not anti-depressent pill either)…which means my breakfast is now three white pills in small, medium and large. This amuses me greatly.
I have a few safe corners of Tumblr.
The Classic Who fandom can be cute and cuddly, especially when they go on a Two/Jamie cling-binge (srsly they have like no personal space).
Ursula fucking Vernon is on there.
David Willis has a Tumblr, and does yeoman’s work IMO (you may have seen some of his most important work already.
But the social justice peeps, they’re like a pack of hyenas, waiting and watching for one of their number to show weakness so they can pounce and prove how much More Aware Than Thou they are.
So yeah, go to Tumblr, but whatever you do, don’t get out of the boat.
One of the David Cats
Be afraid. Be very afraid.