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Like a lot of people in the US of A, I am taking a long weekend. Posting may be a little light for a bit. So here’s an open thread for everyone else taking a long weekend. Or not. Use this thread for anything that’s not personal. Like misogyny, politics, kitties, you know the drill. (Though kitties are welcome in all threads, of course.)

I am hoping my long weekend turns out a bit better than that of the people in the Australian movie of that name from 1978, which I keep meaning to see. Apparently their little beach vacation doesn’t go so well, and they are attacked by … nature? At one point, I believe, they face off against an enraged dugong. (No, really.) The movie was recently remade, but apparently the remake wasn’t as good.

Stay tuned for more reviews of movies I haven’t seen and that I’m just giving vague impressions of based on things I’ve heard somewhere.

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gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
11 years ago

I love my housemate, really I do. We’ve been friends for going on two decades now, and when I needed a place to go he was totally there for me while my family was whistling and studying patterns in the clouds. And, full disclosure, as one of our trolls picked up on, he is indeed letting me use my ‘feminine wiles’ (specifically my construction and horticultural knowledge) to make my rent more affordable. Market rate is out of my league at the moment, especially as I try to get my business off the ground.

BUT

He does this thing where he mentions a project to me in abstract terms, like “wouldn’t it be a good idea to repoint and repaint the garage?” or “shouldn’t that rhododendron be completely reshaped?” or “do you think it would look better if that planter bed had a cleaner edge made of pressure treated 2x12s?” and generally I will agree that, yes, all of those things are not only highly desirable but eminently possible.

And then one fine Saturday afternoon, out of the clear blue with, he will come home and say, “so I have lumber and 6 cubic yards of new topsoil in my trunk, if we start now we should be able to be done by sundown!”

When I get done being tired, I am going to be so sore…

Falconer
11 years ago

Well, I wasn’t thinking middle of the night so much as in the pouring rain.

NEWS FLASH

Tiny baby yawns.

Tiny.

Baby.

Yawns.

SittieKitty
11 years ago

Then, I am sorry to inform you that because of your refusal to report it, that rapist has most likely gone on to reoffend; that is the pattern.

Did you literally just blame me for any future crimes he commits? Actually?? Fuck you. You can go to hell. He chooses to rape, any future rapes he commits is because of his actions and choices, not because of mine. You can go fuck yourself.

Falconer
11 years ago

O: Then, I am sorry to inform you that because of your refusal to report it, that rapist has most likely gone on to reoffend; that is the pattern. If we want to reduce rapes, Women who have been attacked MUST come forward to report it. For my part I don’t want rapists in the camp. If they’ve committed a crime, I want them brought to justice.

Making the case that Women must come forward, could very well address some of the more egregious behavior in the pickup community too – yes?

Fuck off with your attempted shaming, douchecanoe.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Daaaamn. The acceptance (here) versus education graph looks like a spider web, there’s no correlation, it isn’t an artifact of it not being linear, it just isn’t, any shape at all (I mean, shotguns produce more of a pattern than this)

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: auggzilliary

Aw, that’s so cute! And interesting. Although I know I don’t have the training for zoo work, except for the most basic labor, I am curious about it. It seems very important work. The zoo I’m most familiar with was that one in Austin, which like I said, mostly had rescue animals. No giraffes, a saddening number of “it was so cute when it was little,” critters.

RE: college

Actually, one of my big beefs with a lot of the Internet activism scene is how it gabbles on and on in jargon, and just EXPECTS people to either look it up or GTFO. It’s very academic in its standpoint, and stupidly clueless in that it seems to just ASSUME people have nothing better to do all day than learn the niceties of AFAB/AMAB vs. FAAB/MAAB vs. CAFAB/CAMAB, and so on and so forth.

(Yes, I have seen those arguments. It was fascinating. And by fascinating, I mean Brandon.)

Falconer
11 years ago

@SittieKitty: Yeah, I had to scrape my jaw off the floor.

And I hope you don’t mind me jumping in there. It just seemed to me that silence was tantamount to support.

Obsidian Files
11 years ago

@LBT:
Thank for taking the time out to write the comment you did. By all accounts your method has achieved the desired result and I wish you much happiness with it.

Thanks also for the kind words regarding Alaska, etc. Yea, RVs are nothing to sneeze at in terms of cost, but gosh, they’re really nice aren’t they? I was looking at some models a dealer had down in Texas, and it looked like a stateroom on the inside. Really, really nice. I’d like to make a 50 state tour of the country, spending a bit of time in each state, talking with people there, all colors, classes, genders, you name it. I believe that’s how real change happens, when different people sitdown and talk to each other.

O.

Kristineedscats
11 years ago

@ LBT

“Be glad you weren’t here for the days of B.”

Geez, B must have been horrible. Still, I wish I’d found you all earlier. The “Men’s Power” shit has always really pissed me off and made me sad. Then I found you guys. What a hilarious group of people who so adroitly harness the power of mockery to show how deeply pathetic these people are. Instead of being mad or sad, now I can laugh about it and almost feel sorry for them. (Well, when they aren’t making themselves the main subject of a thread that isn’t about them.)

Falconer
11 years ago

@LBT: Okay, I guess AXAB means Assigned X At Birth (as opposed to X Assigned At Birth), but what’s the C stand for in the third set of terms?

(Probably something as plain as the nose on my face.)

SittieKitty
11 years ago

I appreciate it Falconer. That was total bullshit

Ally S
11 years ago

Women who have been attacked MUST come forward to report it.

Oh, go fuck yourself. You have no idea what rape victims go through when they try to prosecute their assailants. And moreover, it’s the rapist’s fault for raping people, not the victim’s failure to report.

MordsithJ
MordsithJ
11 years ago

@Argenti

Okay, thanks for looking. Was just curious about it.

Falconer
11 years ago

True story: I was over at some friends’ house and got in the middle of a conversation between spouses. I can’t even remember what it was about. The husband told me to stop white knighting.

I was kind of gobsmacked for a second. (Did I mention I’m not good with words? And yet my biggest hobby is basically improv theater with dice.)

And then he said he was teasing me, and I relaxed.

Kittehserf
11 years ago

I’ve just emailed Dave about that, SittieKitty.

@LBT – “people have nothing better to do all day than learn the niceties of AFAB/AMAB vs. FAAB/MAAB vs. CAFAB/CAMAB, and so on and so forth.”

Yeah, my eyes tend to glaze over when the acronyms proliferate, regardless of the subject.

@Kristineedscats, hi, have you had your Official Welcome Package yet?

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Falconer — coercively is the c.

And the footnotes are here — https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lN4Ub-WvYKaRaNrcBl1vIpb1fKeYSwZTkB5Ion-qfkU/mobilebasic

And totally optional, but the stats crash course is near the top and the closest it has to numbers is this —

“Standard deviation, also fairly simple to understand. The part you do need to know is that it’s a measure of how spread out the data is. Forty and sixty average to 50, so do 0 and 100, the later has a larger standard deviation.”

Simple to understand, calculating it *shudders, talks nice to excel*

Falconer
11 years ago

I appreciate it Falconer. That was total bullshit

I’m not even sorry I broke my promise to myself to not engage.

LBT
LBT
11 years ago

RE: Obsidian Files

Not cool, man. SO not cool.

And FYI, what you describe was why I eventually reported MY rapist. Guess what happened to him? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Because unfortunately, reported or not, that is what happens to most rapists in this country. Even when reported, they are very rarely convicted.

I agonized for years, worrying whether my rapist would go after another teenager, and whether it would be my fault if it was. I entertained some pretty irrational, awful fantasies back in the day, in the hopes I would prevent him ever harming another person. I was barely an adult, and my report went nowhere, and I found myself wondering whether murdering a human was an ethical activity, if it prevented him from raping anybody else.

It was a very dark, bad time in my life. And I hate that I was in a society that was so helpless to protect its children that even as a child myself, I felt responsible for others like me. (And I still had it great, compared to my mother. But that’s another story.)

You show a PITIABLE lack of understanding about how rape trials and convictions work in this country. Go do your damned homework and fuck off.

(Also, oh GOD WHY DID I LOOK UP RAPE CULTURE ON TUMBLR. WHY WAS I SO STUPID. I need to go pour bleach into my eye sockets now.)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

MordsithJ — no problem, actually, I should do that with education versus class too, though I suspect I’ll get the same spider web (I switched it to curves instead of straight lines and it’s downright pretty, looks like one of the spirograph toys for kids)

Obsidian — the line, you are so fucking far over it with that shit. Know who’s to blame for rape? RAPISTS.

I fucking can’t. Somebody request data please. (Or provide photos of tiny baby yawns. Do they yawn in unison? Cuz that’d be so cute I’d melt)

Falconer
11 years ago

@argenti: Thanks for the explication.

But isn’t there an element of coercion already inherent in AAB anyway?

I must admit, I talk about my kids as though they’re cis; but really, they’re four and a half months old, they haven’t developed a gender yet, and anyway, one gets odd looks when one talks about having a penis-person and a vagina-person.

SittieKitty
11 years ago

Thanks Kitteh. I don’t even know what to do with that… it’s just such an awful thing to say to someone.

Falconer
11 years ago

@Argenti: Sadly, the yawns are over so suddenly I haven’t even swiped into my smartphone by the time they’re done.

I haven’t noticed them yawning in sync, but sometimes they start fussing, or STOP fussing, in unison, and I don’t know which is creepier.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

Now PUA dude? He’s out of his depth here, as his last comment about women reporting rape proved.

(Not that he hadn’t proved it already but seriously, damn that was ignorant.)

Falconer
11 years ago

Off to play some Avernum before bed.

Night, all!

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