You may know Heartiste as a reactionary, misogynistic, proudly racist dispenser of manipulative, sometimes abusive dating advice to would-be βalpha males.β
Did you also know that he was an open advocate of domestic violence against women?
Well, I didnβt, until a friend pointed out a strange little exchange on his Twitter account the other day.
Last Tuesday morning, apropos of nothing in particular, Heartiste made the following pronouncement:
Depriving men of the means to make credible mate retention threats will assure that women need more retaining. #evolutionaryarmsrace
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
When someone asked what sort of threats he meant, he elaborated:
@ChrisCaroll1 Violence. Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism. etc. RT: What are "credible mate retention threats"? That's a new one on me.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
The latter three items on the list (“Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism”) are standard techniques in Heartisteβs dating strategy, but the open advocacy of violence is, I think, new.
In addition to being repugnant, Heartisteβs argument here doesnβt even particularly make sense. Essentially, he seems to be saying that men need to be able to hit women to keep them in line so that they wonβt have to … hit women to keep them in line.
Also, the phrase “mate retention strategy,” apparently popular with Evo Psych types, gives me the creeps. I’m pretty sure the best “mate retention strategy” is to be the sort of person your “mate” wants to be in a relationship with.
I did a quick search for the phrase, and found numerous references to two academic studies. One suggested that some women fake orgasms as a “mate retention strategy.” Another possibly more revealing one claimed that men of “low mate value” often insult their mates to lower their self-esteem so they won’t feel confident enough to leave. That seems more or less in line with what Heartiste’s general approach. And certainly, by any reasonable definition of the term, Heartiste and his followers are some pretty “low value” people, both as “mates” and as decent human beings generally.
I also found this reference to research by Evo Psych big daddy David Buss suggesting that violence — surprise! — isn’t actually a particularly effective “mate retention strategy.”
Also, beating up your mate is, you know, just generally a pretty shitty thing to do.
If Heartiste takes his tweets down, I’ve got screenshots.
EDITED TO ADD: Heartiste has really been going wild with the Twitter lately.
Here he claims to have invented the term “hivemind.”
Interesting that this pants-wetting manboob stole the Chateau Heartiste coinage "hivemind." A reader is outed! http://t.co/F729vnZLRe
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 24, 2013
After I pointed out that this belief was delusional, he suggested that I kill myself. Very alpha!
He’s also been on a bit of a racist rampage, posting lots of stuff like this:
What leftoids see as "white privilege" is just organically emergent consequences of biological realities. They know this, so they lie.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 25, 2013
See also here, here, here, here, and here.
Phrasing your racism in pseudoscientific terms doesn’t make it right, dude. It just makes you a pretentious racist.
So basically what you’re saying is that being a tough guy from South Central is his fantasy?
I did ask him to stop wanking in public.
@LBT
Well, Greg probably won’t like it, but feminist metal is like hugs for me π
@kittehs
Yay! Happy Birthday! π
You’re almost as old as my mom π ::feels like a baby:: And, on the note of birthdays, here is some penguin (whore) cake* I made, inspired by manboobz of course: http://kitti47.deviantart.com/art/Penguin-Cake-363397624
*Note: just penguins, but we all know penguins are actually whores.
LOL suggestive indeed, cloudiah! π
I don’t know if Louis has anything in mind for tonight (well, apart from the obvious) but it’ll feel like this anyway. (That’s a shot of a party Philippe threw, oh, last year I think.)
@kittehs
For some reason that pictures is filling me with D’awwws and I don’t know why.
Penguin whore cake, yum!
@katz
It took me a minute to understand that, because I was still thinking of trollboy. X| I was like “no, I don’t think that’s what he (greg) said… i think she’d have to ‘disrespect’ him first…”
@pecunium
my curiosity is waging war with my sense of disgust…
*sigh*
Which thread?
And, on a much happier note, Happy Birthday, Kitteh!
Re: the asshole line from Greg.
I can’t tell whether it was over the line, even for him, because literally everything he said felt like over the line
@kittehs
I know I started this, but that combination is giving me way too a big fit of giggles.
RE: Argenti
I wrote that story specifically because Christmas in this system has become a pretty miserable occasion, and seriously, I know of NO Christmas story where someone has valid reason to be unhappy about Christmas where the answer isn’t, “MOAR CHRISTMAS!”
History of Feminism. Didn’t get the level of response he wanted, so he came here to step up the rhetoric. Pretty standard stuff: the SPLC is a hate group or some such.
Ah. Well, I think I’ll let that summary stand and not read any more of trolly’s bs.
Also, happy birthday, Kitteh!
@LBT
I finally got around to hearing that feminist metal song you linked to and I loved it! Feminist music makes me ridiculously happy. π
*sigh*
X makes me miserable
You just need more X!!!
No, never, go away now.
Happy birthday Kittehs!
@Argenti
Ouch, who said that? They sound kind of… not good.
Or did I just miss something that someone else said in this thread?
Thank you everyone, again!
::feels like is having an online birthday party::
π
RE: Zombie Marie
Glad you liked it! Metal isn’t really my thing, but I enjoy that song.
RE: Fade
Argenti was referencing a story I wrote, in a series zie really likes. I was having a big bad case of the Christmas blues (which happens when you have no family, no money, and no home on motherfucking Christmas) so I wrote a story about people who also have reason to hate Christmas and finding a way to turn it into something positive in a way completely unrelated to the holiday. I wrote it in part because I kept running into, “You hate Christmas? Well what you need is a dose of CHRISTMAS SPIRIT!”
@LBT
ah, I was just confused. :
And no, LBT (and the IS crew) needed cute little killer beetle larvae and dinosaurs. Which really sounds better to me even without the details! (Which I’m going to refrain from thinking about as I’m about to grab food before DAAAAATTTTAAAAA)
Thanks, katz! π
Happy birthday, Kitteh! (sorry if it’s late, I only just caught up on the thread)
RE: Argenti
Unstable Housing! (Bonus sketch will have to wait until tomorrow.)
Thanks, Myoo! π
Whoot! Banana cake has been produced at work!
@kittehs
Yummy!
Speaking of cake, I have to make a whole one (decorated) tomorrow :/ *sigh*
It’s fun, but a lot of work. At least me and my mom (and fade!) piled our monies for a fancy mixer! π (making icing= not fun)
and that got rambly. Sowwyz.