You may know Heartiste as a reactionary, misogynistic, proudly racist dispenser of manipulative, sometimes abusive dating advice to would-be “alpha males.”
Did you also know that he was an open advocate of domestic violence against women?
Well, I didn’t, until a friend pointed out a strange little exchange on his Twitter account the other day.
Last Tuesday morning, apropos of nothing in particular, Heartiste made the following pronouncement:
Depriving men of the means to make credible mate retention threats will assure that women need more retaining. #evolutionaryarmsrace
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
When someone asked what sort of threats he meant, he elaborated:
@ChrisCaroll1 Violence. Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism. etc. RT: What are "credible mate retention threats"? That's a new one on me.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
The latter three items on the list (“Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism”) are standard techniques in Heartiste’s dating strategy, but the open advocacy of violence is, I think, new.
In addition to being repugnant, Heartiste’s argument here doesn’t even particularly make sense. Essentially, he seems to be saying that men need to be able to hit women to keep them in line so that they won’t have to … hit women to keep them in line.
Also, the phrase “mate retention strategy,” apparently popular with Evo Psych types, gives me the creeps. I’m pretty sure the best “mate retention strategy” is to be the sort of person your “mate” wants to be in a relationship with.
I did a quick search for the phrase, and found numerous references to two academic studies. One suggested that some women fake orgasms as a “mate retention strategy.” Another possibly more revealing one claimed that men of “low mate value” often insult their mates to lower their self-esteem so they won’t feel confident enough to leave. That seems more or less in line with what Heartiste’s general approach. And certainly, by any reasonable definition of the term, Heartiste and his followers are some pretty “low value” people, both as “mates” and as decent human beings generally.
I also found this reference to research by Evo Psych big daddy David Buss suggesting that violence — surprise! — isn’t actually a particularly effective “mate retention strategy.”
Also, beating up your mate is, you know, just generally a pretty shitty thing to do.
If Heartiste takes his tweets down, I’ve got screenshots.
EDITED TO ADD: Heartiste has really been going wild with the Twitter lately.
Here he claims to have invented the term “hivemind.”
Interesting that this pants-wetting manboob stole the Chateau Heartiste coinage "hivemind." A reader is outed! http://t.co/F729vnZLRe
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 24, 2013
After I pointed out that this belief was delusional, he suggested that I kill myself. Very alpha!
He’s also been on a bit of a racist rampage, posting lots of stuff like this:
What leftoids see as "white privilege" is just organically emergent consequences of biological realities. They know this, so they lie.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 25, 2013
See also here, here, here, here, and here.
Phrasing your racism in pseudoscientific terms doesn’t make it right, dude. It just makes you a pretentious racist.
Cassandra: (The idea that if you get a friend to beat the shit out of someone for you then your hands are clean was my favorite part of today trollsplosion.)
Don’t forget, that getting women to beat people who diss you gets you street cred, everyone knows how badass you are when you do that.
Even more when you get CPS involved.
Totally.
bionicmommy: That’s awesome! At least on this matter, our senator is BADASS.
Notice there was no mention of what happened to the kids. They’re not important, right?
Behold, the MRM!
Okay, fine, I’LL hug Greg Wright, whenever he comes up. I think we drove him off, but I have hope he’ll come back with an NWO-worthy keyboard smash of arghlebarghle.
Never let it be said I won’t take one for the team!
Marie-Thanks for the add…not really an artist, but I am okay with cameras and used to write poems!
I am really behind on comments and have just been shimming but unless you know the person is abusing their kids calling CPS because you have a vendetta against someone is beyond fucked up, even if they are an asshole.
Argenti–new glasses are awesome
LBT—I’ll join you in a group hug, maybe it will scare Greg off and he will go away
Viscaria — when I saw how many replies it got between me emailing it to David and going to bed, and me getting up, I decided to get a jump start on it. So I’m about 3/4ths done compiling the racial breakdown of the countries we got responses from (which, using the r/mr categories for that comparison, has been a joy and a wonder [any New Zealand people around? Do you seriously not have anyone who’s neither white nor indigenous nor Asian?])
And nearly done with compiling the religions, useful ethnicity list, politics, etc. Started on the math for what’s an outlier in the “check any” categories, I wasn’t going to drop any of the data, but someone checked fifty-fucking-seven religions, and I’ve got a couple others that scream troll. (More so than Greg actually, he just screams pathetic)
Got the charts and other graphic presentations sorta sketched out too. I’m putting the spreadsheets on google docs tonight, and talacaris is going to look for correlations in the smart ass question. I’m hoping to have it presentable by Saturday, but since he won’t get to that until tomorrow, idk, maybe Sunday.
All in all, will probably be just about a week from launch to presented data.
Totally random but…wtf is this cat doing? I’ve heard them chittering before, and that’s what it looks like it’s doing (looking at a bug maybe), but that noise is bizarre.
oh okay I read the comment on CPS more carefully and she was abusive….still doing it just to teach someone a lesson is fucked up….
1) cats are always on topic
2) “sounds like a baby goat” = yep
@discordia
Yeah. Logically you’d call CPS when you figured out a kid was being abused, not save it for when their custodial parent(s) pissed you off and you wanted to get revenge
RELEVANT TO OUR INTERESTS!
RE: Discordia
I think it’s pretty safe to discount anything Greg Wright said as made-up bollockery. And yes! Join the group hug! Seriously, I can’t think of anything more anti-Greg.
Go home, cat, you’re drunk.
@Argenti, that’s a pretty amazing turnaround time!
If Greg is finally gone how about we all group hug over this?
Dogggiiieee!!
Whelp, that video rendered me into a teary mess. That’s so awesome.
@Briznecko, yes, she was badass. And what’s with the Wall Street Journal posting Taranto’s rape apologist crap anyway? I think they should change their name to The Wall Street Spearhead.
And yeah for the lady finding her puppy! It’s so good to see happy endings like that after tornadoes. I have so many stories, and the ones where people reunite with pets are some of the most heartwarming.
I would go so far as to say that, logically, there should be no difference, because logically finding out that a kid was being abused should piss you off.
Yeah, I’m with LBT on this….troll’s claims are all utter horseshit. He’s a white, middle class guy. I’ve never seen or heard of an urban-based African American spouting so much fucking MRA rhetoric. In fact, his “impression” of an African American from L.A. was just ridiculous and racist. And when he wasn’t using that voice, he just sounded like a shit lord on the verge of a hissy fit because some people think rape as a societal problem is larger than false rape accusations.
Then he goes all wank-fest on us…being offensive so he can get off. What a sad troll.
All his claims are distinctly post-hoc, too. Get called out for racism? Oh wait, I’m black! Got a woman’s children taken away? Oh wait, she was abusive!
Katz — yeah, but find out about abuse => get pissed => call CPS, is more ethical than find out about abuse => wait until pissed => call CPS.
(Not that you didn’t know that or anything, I just got home from an apparently rescheduled psych appt, like my brain wasn’t jello already)
Well, at least now I feel better about myself. I might be poor, mentally ill, and have trouble even organizing cleaning a guy’s house for scratch… but at least I’m not Greg Wright.
Oh, LBT, you’re awesome.
There were some other troll tells, “that was in 2002”, and I forget what.
But his language was oddly sterile for a “streewise” sort of dude, and while he implied he was black, he didn’t react to the localising data I put in, so I have my doubts about his LA cred too.
Trolls help boost my self-confidence.
But no, really, I’m annoyed at how shitty I am at mentally managing any work that’s not for a friend who knows I’m crazy. *sigh* At least we did really well this month, between writeathon and Sneak pet-sitting?
Pets!
Yes in other words.
And whenever I have a Paypal balance to work with, I’m funding M.D.’s apt. if it isn’t yet funded. Need MOAR.