You may know Heartiste as a reactionary, misogynistic, proudly racist dispenser of manipulative, sometimes abusive dating advice to would-be “alpha males.”
Did you also know that he was an open advocate of domestic violence against women?
Well, I didn’t, until a friend pointed out a strange little exchange on his Twitter account the other day.
Last Tuesday morning, apropos of nothing in particular, Heartiste made the following pronouncement:
Depriving men of the means to make credible mate retention threats will assure that women need more retaining. #evolutionaryarmsrace
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
When someone asked what sort of threats he meant, he elaborated:
@ChrisCaroll1 Violence. Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism. etc. RT: What are "credible mate retention threats"? That's a new one on me.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
The latter three items on the list (“Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism”) are standard techniques in Heartiste’s dating strategy, but the open advocacy of violence is, I think, new.
In addition to being repugnant, Heartiste’s argument here doesn’t even particularly make sense. Essentially, he seems to be saying that men need to be able to hit women to keep them in line so that they won’t have to … hit women to keep them in line.
Also, the phrase “mate retention strategy,” apparently popular with Evo Psych types, gives me the creeps. I’m pretty sure the best “mate retention strategy” is to be the sort of person your “mate” wants to be in a relationship with.
I did a quick search for the phrase, and found numerous references to two academic studies. One suggested that some women fake orgasms as a “mate retention strategy.” Another possibly more revealing one claimed that men of “low mate value” often insult their mates to lower their self-esteem so they won’t feel confident enough to leave. That seems more or less in line with what Heartiste’s general approach. And certainly, by any reasonable definition of the term, Heartiste and his followers are some pretty “low value” people, both as “mates” and as decent human beings generally.
I also found this reference to research by Evo Psych big daddy David Buss suggesting that violence — surprise! — isn’t actually a particularly effective “mate retention strategy.”
Also, beating up your mate is, you know, just generally a pretty shitty thing to do.
If Heartiste takes his tweets down, I’ve got screenshots.
EDITED TO ADD: Heartiste has really been going wild with the Twitter lately.
Here he claims to have invented the term “hivemind.”
Interesting that this pants-wetting manboob stole the Chateau Heartiste coinage "hivemind." A reader is outed! http://t.co/F729vnZLRe
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 24, 2013
After I pointed out that this belief was delusional, he suggested that I kill myself. Very alpha!
He’s also been on a bit of a racist rampage, posting lots of stuff like this:
What leftoids see as "white privilege" is just organically emergent consequences of biological realities. They know this, so they lie.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 25, 2013
See also here, here, here, here, and here.
Phrasing your racism in pseudoscientific terms doesn’t make it right, dude. It just makes you a pretentious racist.
oh noooooo my first blockquote fail ever
I’m gravitating towards your Poe theory, inurashii…
Seriously, how many people here think Greg Wright is an upper-middle class suburbanite who’s never spent a week in ‘the hood’? *raises hand*
Regarding that “superglueing vaginas and assholes shut”… that’s incredibly nasty, but I suspect something Mr Troll here made up in order to shock us. Because it seems like something you couldn’t sit home and self-heal from; I think you’d actually die from that unless you got some pretty delicate surgery at a hospital. If this was common, wouldn’t it have reached media? I mean, mainstream media reports when women in Kongo needs surgery because destroying their genitals is used as a weapon in war – why would we never have heard about this kind of thing if it regularly happened in “bad neighbourhoods” in the west?
Greggy: LBT, that walking away doesn’t work in the hood.
Depends…. weaklings who need other people to beat people up have a harder time walking away. I can see why you might feel the need to posture more.
Me, I usually walked away. When pressed, responded. Mostly I looked people in the eye, told them they didn’t want to do that and waited. Usually they left.
I’m still walking around, and I haven’t been shot, or stabbed.
No issues with you being what you are. I’m a finisher who takes the law into his own hands. Everyone can’t be the same.
Your a dude posturing on the internet about how tough he is. You are salting your comments with racist stereotypes, meant to get us upset.
I think your a fake, a poser. You’ve lied (the superglue shit is nonsense), and you’ve presented a caricature of live in South Central. I know, because I’m from that part of the world.
George is going to get found not guilty too. Travon was a gang banger and he attacked George.
And you’re black right? It’s not that there aren’t blacks who think Zimmerman isn’t guilty, but given the rest of the crap you’re spewing, this is out of character. You need to work on the verismilitude.
You are full of shit, and sadly you can’t keep it in, so it’s oozing onto the rug, which is sort of disgusting, because you also have your head up your ass.
Marie — yeah, hellkell emailed him.
*raises hand*
If a woman says that men need to be killed off until the male population is down to 10%, will she get banned too?
LBT, raises hand as well.
Yeah, I’m with you guys. I mean, humans are impressive, but I think the likelihood of Greg Wright being truly this thickwitted and mean-spirited is far less than him just being a garden variety liar.
He’s probably sitting in bunny slippers and a bathrobe right now, playing Skyrim and checking 4chan between posts here.
Yep, I’m Black. So what.
After a verbal eviseration, yes. Ditto TERfs.
You guys! I know who Greg is! It’s Uncle Ruckus come to life!
Feminist and Manginas are funny.
WHITE POWER!
Yeah, Greg’ll get banned post haste. David doesn’t look kindly on violent talk. In the meantime, on the subject of absolutely anything else:
even if he is a poe, he’s still horrible.
I mean, I do not get people who would troll for the lulz. “I know this is horrible but I’m going to pretend I think it anyway”?
Yeah, if some woman came in here and argued for some kind of gendercide, obviously she’d get banned eventually (nobody here gets banned right away, it’s always only when people have been spewing their shit for a while).
But somehow, I think the probability that a gendercidal woman would show up here is close to nil.
Yeah, I’m voting Poe too. He’s a black man who grew up in the hood, hates “gang bangers,” listens to Rush Limbaugh, hates people who leech off of welfare, and thinks that shooting unarmed teenagers is fine(as long as it’s not the “gang bangers” doing the shooting)?
Not impossible, just very suspicious.
Yep.
@inurashii
You’re FIRST? I am impress.
@LBT
I’d rather not guess (not going to stop other people) because most of my life I have been middle class, and even when my family mostly broke my mom still could go to her aunt for some aide. So I’m very priveleged in that regard.
@Argenti Aertheri
Sweet.
@greg
I’d assume so? But there haven’t been any cases of that that I know of. Though she’d probably have to double down on and defend all her bullshit, like you’re doing.
@fade
I know. “everyone thinks I’m despicable and should never be around another human being unsupervised. Hilarious!”
Trayvon was in better shape, a fighter, and he attacked George.
Self defense.
RE: Greg Wright
If a woman says that men need to be killed off until the male population is down to 10%, will she get banned too?
Of course they would. Pretty sure they HAVE been–we’ve had a few TERF trolls in our time.
Feminist and Manginas are funny.
WHITE POWER!
Meltdown commencing in three… two…
Also, dude, my mangina can shove out a baby the size of a basketball. Can YOUR genitals do that? I bet not!
RE: pecunium
I was hoping you’d reply to that ‘walking away’ line. I’m not from that kind of neighborhood, but somehow I doubt everyone is constantly attacking and murdering each other there, with no other form of dealing with conflict. Otherwise there’d be no one left.
Okay, I just caught up on this thread. Wow, what a mess. Everyone has done a good job dealing with Mr. Abuse Cheerleader, so I don’t have anything to add.
But if you do want a derail, how about what Claire McCaskill said to the douchey rape apologist? I had put this in the open thread for personal stuff but it was quiet there and this thread is way more active.
There is no war on men
@greg
Citation needed, you pathetic fuck.