You may know Heartiste as a reactionary, misogynistic, proudly racist dispenser of manipulative, sometimes abusive dating advice to would-be “alpha males.”
Did you also know that he was an open advocate of domestic violence against women?
Well, I didn’t, until a friend pointed out a strange little exchange on his Twitter account the other day.
Last Tuesday morning, apropos of nothing in particular, Heartiste made the following pronouncement:
Depriving men of the means to make credible mate retention threats will assure that women need more retaining. #evolutionaryarmsrace
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
When someone asked what sort of threats he meant, he elaborated:
@ChrisCaroll1 Violence. Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism. etc. RT: What are "credible mate retention threats"? That's a new one on me.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
The latter three items on the list (“Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism”) are standard techniques in Heartiste’s dating strategy, but the open advocacy of violence is, I think, new.
In addition to being repugnant, Heartiste’s argument here doesn’t even particularly make sense. Essentially, he seems to be saying that men need to be able to hit women to keep them in line so that they won’t have to … hit women to keep them in line.
Also, the phrase “mate retention strategy,” apparently popular with Evo Psych types, gives me the creeps. I’m pretty sure the best “mate retention strategy” is to be the sort of person your “mate” wants to be in a relationship with.
I did a quick search for the phrase, and found numerous references to two academic studies. One suggested that some women fake orgasms as a “mate retention strategy.” Another possibly more revealing one claimed that men of “low mate value” often insult their mates to lower their self-esteem so they won’t feel confident enough to leave. That seems more or less in line with what Heartiste’s general approach. And certainly, by any reasonable definition of the term, Heartiste and his followers are some pretty “low value” people, both as “mates” and as decent human beings generally.
I also found this reference to research by Evo Psych big daddy David Buss suggesting that violence — surprise! — isn’t actually a particularly effective “mate retention strategy.”
Also, beating up your mate is, you know, just generally a pretty shitty thing to do.
If Heartiste takes his tweets down, I’ve got screenshots.
EDITED TO ADD: Heartiste has really been going wild with the Twitter lately.
Here he claims to have invented the term “hivemind.”
Interesting that this pants-wetting manboob stole the Chateau Heartiste coinage "hivemind." A reader is outed! http://t.co/F729vnZLRe
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 24, 2013
After I pointed out that this belief was delusional, he suggested that I kill myself. Very alpha!
He’s also been on a bit of a racist rampage, posting lots of stuff like this:
What leftoids see as "white privilege" is just organically emergent consequences of biological realities. They know this, so they lie.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 25, 2013
See also here, here, here, here, and here.
Phrasing your racism in pseudoscientific terms doesn’t make it right, dude. It just makes you a pretentious racist.
“You are a cruel, CRUEL motherfucker, you know that?”
I try ^.^
I call ’em like I see ’em when the assholes come here and shit up the rug again.
Again, that pesky problem with reading. Ratchet was already discussed and quoted upthread. Go be stupid somewhere else.
Wait, we’re calling you names? And that’s bad.
You’re assigning some people as literally not human. And that’s okay?
Which opinions would those be? That it’s appropriate to respond to verbal abuse with physical violence? That you should mete out vigilante justice? That “foul uncooth[,] [women]” are not human?
LBT, that walking away doesn’t work in the hood.
Right, Greg. You really think we buy your stories?
RE: Greg Wright
Why do feminists expect us to respect their opinions, but call us names for our opinions?
You realize this is a MOCKERY site, yes? This means we MOCK people. This isn’t FeministDiplomacy.com, we don’t go around reaching out to wannabe badasses. We MOCK shit. And when you come in with your absurd statements about assholes getting fucked, we will indeed mock you.
You’re not being called names, you are being correctly identified as an abuse apologist and an advocate of criminal vigilantism.
You’re saying that people who are rude to you deserve to die, and should. When you have asshole opinions, that makes you an asshole.
Why are you even here?
Yes, it’s okay to classify uncooth trash who live off of my tax dollars as unhuman demonic creatures.
@Discordia
yay for more artist manboobzers 😀 I’m going to go check out your page when I finally catch up with this thread.
@Greg
…I don’t think this sentence says what you want it to say. Because shooting suspects to death is a fucking problem! Especially since they’re only suspects.
Who’s OBL? Because I’d have to look zir up ,since I don’t know the initials :/
You’ve demonstrated here that’s not true, through your words, you piece of shit.
In theory. So, so far from it, in practice.
@LBT
Yay! Congrats to you and your hubby! 😀
@Greg
Actually, it sounds like you are so much more likely to do the killing. Please go somewhere very far away from people so they don’t have to be around you anymore.
Because you are advocating for violence against other people, which is unacceptable.
Would you prefer to be called a cowardice disingenuous scumbag who gets other people to fight his battles and then makes threats he knows are empty online? Yeah you talk big about shooting that spearhead asshole, but in reality you get other people to jump your enemies. Assuming that isn’t also all talk.
@LBT
I like this plan.
I think that Greg might actually be George Zimmerman.
RE: Greg Wright
LBT, that walking away doesn’t work in the hood.
Somehow, I have difficulty taking you seriously. Why are you here?
Only bullies mock people.
Physical violence beats hurtful words.
Weeee I win!
OBL = Osama bin Laden. I assume.
And it’s ok to classify violent, opinionated misogynists as dangerous, abusive assholes.
A) I don’t think many of the people you’re insulting are as abuse apologist as you are, so where do you get “uncooth”?
B) I really doubt your tax dollars count for that much, man
C) you’re wrong
D) you didn’t answer why it’s okay for you to call people unhuman but someone calling you an asshole is over the line? WTF
You know, Greg, if you’re going to call someone something, you should have to know how to spell it. It’s “uncouth,” dear.
What did you win?
Shorter Greg
“Only bullies mock people! It’s so much morally superior to just skip to the beating people up part of the conversation!”
Argenti: You’re right, Greg is just a racist coward. Not to mention really fucking stupid.
I’m sure Argenti will tally your logic fails and give you a final score.
Wait, which troll pulled out “uncouth” last week? earlier this week? At some point my head was full of data?
RE: Greg Wright
Yes, it’s okay to classify uncooth trash who live off of my tax dollars as unhuman demonic creatures.
Damn! Well, he got me, guys. I’m totally a demon.
Don’t worry. When Greg sends a hit man for me, for the good of society, I will leave you all a huge stack of happy porn and nonviolence. BURY ME IN MY FLANNEL!