You may know Heartiste as a reactionary, misogynistic, proudly racist dispenser of manipulative, sometimes abusive dating advice to would-be “alpha males.”
Did you also know that he was an open advocate of domestic violence against women?
Well, I didn’t, until a friend pointed out a strange little exchange on his Twitter account the other day.
Last Tuesday morning, apropos of nothing in particular, Heartiste made the following pronouncement:
Depriving men of the means to make credible mate retention threats will assure that women need more retaining. #evolutionaryarmsrace
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
When someone asked what sort of threats he meant, he elaborated:
@ChrisCaroll1 Violence. Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism. etc. RT: What are "credible mate retention threats"? That's a new one on me.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
The latter three items on the list (“Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism”) are standard techniques in Heartiste’s dating strategy, but the open advocacy of violence is, I think, new.
In addition to being repugnant, Heartiste’s argument here doesn’t even particularly make sense. Essentially, he seems to be saying that men need to be able to hit women to keep them in line so that they won’t have to … hit women to keep them in line.
Also, the phrase “mate retention strategy,” apparently popular with Evo Psych types, gives me the creeps. I’m pretty sure the best “mate retention strategy” is to be the sort of person your “mate” wants to be in a relationship with.
I did a quick search for the phrase, and found numerous references to two academic studies. One suggested that some women fake orgasms as a “mate retention strategy.” Another possibly more revealing one claimed that men of “low mate value” often insult their mates to lower their self-esteem so they won’t feel confident enough to leave. That seems more or less in line with what Heartiste’s general approach. And certainly, by any reasonable definition of the term, Heartiste and his followers are some pretty “low value” people, both as “mates” and as decent human beings generally.
I also found this reference to research by Evo Psych big daddy David Buss suggesting that violence — surprise! — isn’t actually a particularly effective “mate retention strategy.”
Also, beating up your mate is, you know, just generally a pretty shitty thing to do.
If Heartiste takes his tweets down, I’ve got screenshots.
EDITED TO ADD: Heartiste has really been going wild with the Twitter lately.
Here he claims to have invented the term “hivemind.”
Interesting that this pants-wetting manboob stole the Chateau Heartiste coinage "hivemind." A reader is outed! http://t.co/F729vnZLRe
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 24, 2013
After I pointed out that this belief was delusional, he suggested that I kill myself. Very alpha!
He’s also been on a bit of a racist rampage, posting lots of stuff like this:
What leftoids see as "white privilege" is just organically emergent consequences of biological realities. They know this, so they lie.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 25, 2013
See also here, here, here, here, and here.
Phrasing your racism in pseudoscientific terms doesn’t make it right, dude. It just makes you a pretentious racist.
Not to mention the term “ratchet” is ABSOLUTELY used against WOC specifically don’t even play that game.
@Greg
Ah, so you’re just saying some women aren’t human beings and using a racist word to assert that?
That is so much better. Not.
“A ratchet can be a foul uncooth woman of any race. It isn’t just meant for Black women.”
Assuming that you’re correct here, that just means that you’re using a misogynistic term.
No big deal.
RE: Greg
No, I am not an asshole. I am a dick, because assholes get fucked.
You say this like I somehow expect to be ASHAMED of it. (By the way, guys, tomorrow is me and hubby’s sixth anniversary! WOOOOOO!)
Also, my dearest, darling Manboobzers! In honor of our pipsqueak trolls, I have decided that whenever one espouses a repulsive viewpoint, I shall write or draw about the reverse. So, in honor of Greg, I shall have to write about people in a tough neighborhood dealing with conflict in non-violent, healthy ways.
Anyone want to weigh in with other details they’d like seen in this piece of pacifism?
If that fails, I’ll take over katz’s duty and start posting Old Spice Guy.
@ Greg
Are you a pacifist?
…Greg… did you just try and sock-puppet but forget to change accounts? Wow.
@LBT
Congratulations to you guys!
Biff. Non-conflict.
That is all.
(Also, did Thomas get laid? Can I read it?)
Says the bully who posted his wanking material of ordering his buddies to beat up women who “disrespect” him.
Oh, congrats!
My brain shorted on Biff.
So let me get this straight, greg
You’re telling us that if you judge a woman to be uncouth, she is no longer a person and violence against her is not only ok, but advisable?
You are a piece of work.
I think Greg was trying to respond to LBT but got utterly confused. Which seems like it would be easy for him to do.
@briz
She was being a bully.
I’m not a pacifist.
RE: Greg
Are you a pacifist?
Sure, why not. If it’s something you disapprove of, I’ll shit rainbows and dance with small children.
RE: Argenti
Biff. Non-conflict.
You are a cruel, CRUEL motherfucker, you know that?
(Also, did Thomas get laid? Can I read it?)
Still editing. When it’s posted, I will be sure to honor orion’s memory.
Nope, you just a bully and an asshole with the intelligence of a box of hair. Go somewhere else, you’re boring and you can’t even bother to troll properly.
0/10 Bored.
Howard, I was asking myself if I was one. I don’t walk away from shit until the person is handled. That’s how I deal with ratchets and thugs.Walking away can get you killed.
@greg
We wouldn’t like it, dumbass, but I don’t think it really happens much.
It’s cute when he tries to imitate arguments. No, Greg, zie (katz? I don’t know your preffered pronouns) is pointing out that it’s not common, and that many, many more rapists are let off the hook then innocent people sent to prison. That’s not any consolation for the ones that are, though, but it’s not a common occurance, like rape is.
@katz
I haven’t been watching many because videos dn’t always work on manboobz for me :/ Thoiugh you aren’t annoying me.
@Greg
Actually, that’s not a valuable lesson, and you’re sounding more like an abuser by the second. May you and all your little friends go step on legos.
So you’re the creepy, pathetic guy who attacks other people who shit on him? You seem very violent, and generally horrible to be around.
^BAM. QFT.
@Greg
LIsten here, you little shit, you don’t get to decide who’s a human being or not. Human beings are fucking human beings, not disqualifiers. For example, you are a human being, just an amazingly shitty, pathetic one.
I just about died from the irony. MRAs, some of who have the slogan ‘fuck their shit up’? MRAs, who have Thomas Bell’s writing under the activism section of their blog? You’re pathetic, and either a liar, or too lazy to see who you’re agreeing with.
Citation needed.
No issues with you being what you are. I’m a finisher who takes the law into his own hands. Everyone can’t be the same.
I assume you’re referring to me. For what it’s worth, while responding about Brian Banks I did say “This is not intended to minimize the fact that he spent 5+ years in jail, […]” but the way I followed that up did somewhat minimize the jail time. So, let me be clear: that Brian Banks spent any time in jail for a crime he did not commit is reprehensible.
However, the case really points not, as MRAs would have you believe, to a widespread false rape reports problem, but rather to a falsely convicting POCs problem.
It is also a good illustration of how the US justice system uses FUD about maximum sentences to avoid taking alleged criminals to trial.
Greg, bullying stops with you.
Are you a liar or just stupid? Earlier you said you didn’t start shit. So these people are just randomly fucking with you? Uh-huh.
So tell me again how “ratchet” isn’t racist?
Why do feminists expect us to respect their opinions, but call us names for our opinions?
I don’t give a rat’s ass if you respect our opinions. I care that you’re a disgusting piece of shit abuse advocate.
Google RATCHET, and see if the term is limited to Black women.
RE: Greg Wright
No issues with you being what you are. I’m a finisher who takes the law into his own hands. Everyone can’t be the same.
You do realize that Rorscach was fictional, right?
Walking away can get you killed.
This has been the opposite of my own experience.
We already did, ASSHOLE.
Hellkell, there you go with the name calling.