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Heartiste: Men need to be able to hit their mates in order to “retain” them

A better way to retain your mate: Be a sharp-dressed man.
A better way to retain your mate: Be a sharp-dressed man.

You may know Heartiste as a reactionary, misogynistic, proudly racist dispenser of manipulative, sometimes abusive dating advice to would-be “alpha males.”

Did you also know that he was an open advocate of domestic violence against women?

Well, I didn’t, until a friend pointed out a strange little exchange on his Twitter account the other day.

Last Tuesday morning, apropos of nothing in particular, Heartiste made the following pronouncement:

When someone asked what sort of threats he meant, he elaborated:

The latter three items on the list (“Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism”) are standard techniques in Heartiste’s dating strategy, but the open advocacy of violence is, I think, new.

In addition to being repugnant, Heartiste’s argument here doesn’t even particularly make sense. Essentially, he seems to be saying that men need to be able to hit women to keep them in line so that they won’t have to … hit women to keep them in line.

Also, the phrase “mate retention strategy,” apparently popular with Evo Psych types, gives me the creeps. I’m pretty sure the best “mate retention strategy” is to be the sort of person your “mate” wants to be in a relationship with.

I did a quick search for the phrase, and found numerous references to two academic studies. One suggested that some women fake orgasms as a “mate retention strategy.” Another possibly more revealing one claimed that men of “low mate value” often insult their mates to lower their self-esteem so they won’t feel confident enough to leave. That seems more or less in line with what Heartiste’s general approach. And certainly, by any reasonable definition of the term, Heartiste and his followers are some pretty “low value” people, both as “mates” and as decent human beings generally.

I also found this reference to research by Evo Psych big daddy David Buss suggesting that violence — surprise! — isn’t actually a particularly effective “mate retention strategy.”

Also, beating up your mate is, you know, just generally a pretty shitty thing to do.

If Heartiste takes his tweets down, I’ve got screenshots.

EDITED TO ADD: Heartiste has really been going wild with the Twitter lately.

Here he claims to have invented the term “hivemind.”

After I pointed out that this belief was delusional, he suggested that I kill myself. Very alpha!

He’s also been on a bit of a racist rampage, posting lots of stuff like this:

See also here, here, here, here, and here.

Phrasing your racism in pseudoscientific terms doesn’t make it right, dude. It just makes you a pretentious racist.

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cloudiah
11 years ago

What dishonest troll says:

Now who said that a person sent to prison over false rape charges isn’t a big deal?

How would one of you feminist like it if a teenage boy lied about statutory rape, and your ass got sent to prison for seven years?

Well, who did say that, troll? No one here, you lying asshat. 😀

Greg Wright
Greg Wright
11 years ago

Katz is apologizing for people who lie about rape. Shame on her.

pecunium
11 years ago

Now who said that a person sent to prison over false rape charges isn’t a big deal?

No one.

What was said was the case you cited, didn’t say what you were using it to say, and that false rape (as a category of problem; not as an individual one) isn’t a big deal.

Because it isn’t. It’s about as common as any other falsely reported crime.

inurashii
inurashii
11 years ago

I love how Greg is literally alternating between demanding that we prove that he said things and saying that we said things that we didn’t.

Argenti Aertheri
11 years ago

Hey now, let’s not insult Pygmys! (No, seriously, there are rumors of them being cannablized in the Congonese war — http://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/pygmies )

pecunium
11 years ago

Howard. to be fair what the Gregster said was that if he stood up to a 6’7″, 350 lb biker and lost, that would be on him.

But we know he wouldn’t do that. He’d get some lady friends to beat him up, and the biker’s pals would be totes down for that, cause the guy was an asshole.

cloudiah
11 years ago

Does … he not realize we can scroll up and see for ourselves what people actually said?

That seems to be a common troll malady.

Briznecko
Briznecko
11 years ago

You really should take classes to help develop your reading skills bro.

katz
11 years ago

BOO running out of Red Stripe “Boo” commercials! HOORAY OTHER RED STRIPE COMMERCIALS!

katz
11 years ago

Everyone will tell me if they’re getting sick of Red Stripe commercials, right? Because I could watch the Red Stripe ambassador all day.

Ally S
11 years ago

Straight women like being fucked in the ass too, so I have no idea where you got the homophobia crap from.

Some straight guys like being finger fucked in the asshole by women too.

Thank you for being so informative, sir. /sarcasm

Howard Bannister
11 years ago

@ Howard, please quote me where I said I would stand up to 300 pound biker.

I’m sorry, I was wrong, I misread. You totally said you wouldn’t.

Does that make your extended masturabatory fantasies about beating women CREEPIER?

I think so.

Greg Wright
Greg Wright
11 years ago

@pecunium

Sometimes street justice is the best justice.

The chick talked shit to my friends, to me, and claimed that her brother was going to jump me.

She learned a valuable lesson that night. STFU or get jumped. She was known in the neighborhood for being a shit starter.

That’s how we dealt with ratchet ass chicks in the hood. She actually got off easy, because they usually get their vaginas and assholes super glued.

Briznecko
Briznecko
11 years ago

Moar Red Stripe amabassador lulz plz!

Briznecko
Briznecko
11 years ago

Ally S
11 years ago

@pecunium

Sometimes street justice is the best justice.

The chick talked shit to my friends, to me, and claimed that her brother was going to jump me.

She learned a valuable lesson that night. STFU or get jumped. She was known in the neighborhood for being a shit starter.

That’s how we dealt with ratchet ass chicks in the hood. She actually got off easy, because they usually get their vaginas and assholes super glued.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Howard Bannister
11 years ago

Wow… this is reaching disturbing levels of violence against women.

Greg Wright
Greg Wright
11 years ago

@ Howard
I don’t beat women. I end bullshit. I hate bullies regardless of their gender.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Greg: Oh, so talking shit gets you beat? Who are you gonna send to beat up all of us?

You need to fuck off with your graphic descriptions, I think you enjoy it too much.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

How about ending your bullshit now and leaving, Greg? Since you’re a bullshit ender and all.

Briznecko
Briznecko
11 years ago

…by having your friends beat women. Yep, total asshole who likes to beat women who “disprespect” you.

Ally S
11 years ago

“@ Howard
I don’t beat women. I end bullshit. I hate bullies regardless of their gender.”

You’d be just as much of a creepy asshole if it was a man you beat up.

WalkingStickBug
WalkingStickBug
11 years ago

Ok. I’m buying some Red Stripe today just because of the commercials.

Howard Bannister
11 years ago

Greg hates bullies?

Greg, you are a fucking bully.

You say a woman who talks shit about you gets a beating if she’s lucky and sexual assault if she’s not.

But you wouldn’t start anything with a biker, because anything that happened then would be on you.

YOU ARE A FUCKING BULLY, AND A WEASEL.

Greg Wright
Greg Wright
11 years ago

@Ally

Guys get shot to death in the hood for wearing the wrong color, but I don’t see anyone on here saying shit about that.

BTW, ratchets aren’t human beings. They’re the scum of the earth just like gang bangers who mess up communities.

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