You may know Heartiste as a reactionary, misogynistic, proudly racist dispenser of manipulative, sometimes abusive dating advice to would-be “alpha males.”
Did you also know that he was an open advocate of domestic violence against women?
Well, I didn’t, until a friend pointed out a strange little exchange on his Twitter account the other day.
Last Tuesday morning, apropos of nothing in particular, Heartiste made the following pronouncement:
Depriving men of the means to make credible mate retention threats will assure that women need more retaining. #evolutionaryarmsrace
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
When someone asked what sort of threats he meant, he elaborated:
@ChrisCaroll1 Violence. Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism. etc. RT: What are "credible mate retention threats"? That's a new one on me.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 18, 2013
The latter three items on the list (“Abandonment. Shame. Ostracism”) are standard techniques in Heartiste’s dating strategy, but the open advocacy of violence is, I think, new.
In addition to being repugnant, Heartiste’s argument here doesn’t even particularly make sense. Essentially, he seems to be saying that men need to be able to hit women to keep them in line so that they won’t have to … hit women to keep them in line.
Also, the phrase “mate retention strategy,” apparently popular with Evo Psych types, gives me the creeps. I’m pretty sure the best “mate retention strategy” is to be the sort of person your “mate” wants to be in a relationship with.
I did a quick search for the phrase, and found numerous references to two academic studies. One suggested that some women fake orgasms as a “mate retention strategy.” Another possibly more revealing one claimed that men of “low mate value” often insult their mates to lower their self-esteem so they won’t feel confident enough to leave. That seems more or less in line with what Heartiste’s general approach. And certainly, by any reasonable definition of the term, Heartiste and his followers are some pretty “low value” people, both as “mates” and as decent human beings generally.
I also found this reference to research by Evo Psych big daddy David Buss suggesting that violence — surprise! — isn’t actually a particularly effective “mate retention strategy.”
Also, beating up your mate is, you know, just generally a pretty shitty thing to do.
If Heartiste takes his tweets down, I’ve got screenshots.
EDITED TO ADD: Heartiste has really been going wild with the Twitter lately.
Here he claims to have invented the term “hivemind.”
Interesting that this pants-wetting manboob stole the Chateau Heartiste coinage "hivemind." A reader is outed! http://t.co/F729vnZLRe
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 24, 2013
After I pointed out that this belief was delusional, he suggested that I kill myself. Very alpha!
He’s also been on a bit of a racist rampage, posting lots of stuff like this:
What leftoids see as "white privilege" is just organically emergent consequences of biological realities. They know this, so they lie.
— heartiste (@heartiste) June 25, 2013
See also here, here, here, here, and here.
Phrasing your racism in pseudoscientific terms doesn’t make it right, dude. It just makes you a pretentious racist.
Funny, I’ve seen all those methods called “child abuse” when adults use them on children; wonder if the evo psych people would call them “child retention strategies” & explain that they’re ways for “low value parents” to keep the kids from leaving.
I wonder if the Swedish king is some kind of role model for these PUA assholes? I mean, he’s king (pretty alpha I guess), plus this: http://groupieblog.wordpress.com/2010/11/05/royal-groupie/ (it’s rumoured that she wasn’t the only one either…)
I agree completely. This guy thinks he’s entitled to be an asshole for the sake of getting his way.
[tw – racism, rape]
Andrew-
Yeah, he’s big on the ‘biological’ inferiority of non-whites (with particular hatred against hispanic, black and middle eastern people). A lot of evobabble. I remember a few posts and tweets about how non-racist white women invited rape unto themselves, because non-white men just can’t help raping, because evolution. Liberal PC blindness to REAL SCIENCE or something. And biologists are too scared to tell the TRUTH!!!1!
Here is a video of me pursuing the highest-value mate. As you can see, it does fluctuate.
Which one is me, you ask? Why, all of us. I am all of us and all of us are me.
Aaah! Mads and Fribs are so cute!
1. Everyone here is David
2. guffaw-ferrets is actually a group of ferrets in a tub of packing peanuts
3. Therefore, David is a group of ferrets in a tub of packing peanuts.
How deep this rabbit hole goes! Clearly the jumping around is how we write comments.
Every time there’s a post about Heartiste, I automatically think of calling him “Fartiste”. Because I am apparently 12 years old.
Heartiste is a sociopath and proud of it.
Thank you for the adorable kitties, everyone who posted adorable kitties. I really needed the brain bleach too.
______**********________
____**__people_**______
___**_who believe_**____
____**__in evo___**_____
_____**_psych__**______
______**********_______
______**********________
____**__people_**______
___**___I want___**____
____**____to____**_____
_____**__date__**______
______**********_______
Venn diagram of my personal mating strategy.
Loving those ferrets. Cornstarch packing peanuts are a great plaything: Edible and biodegradable!
Yellaine, Venn diagrams jokes aren’t always funny.
But when they are, as in this circumstance, they are HILARIOUS.
De-lurking to say that I ABSOLUTELY agree with Chibigodzilla and should start calling him ‘Fartiste’ any time he’s mentioned. Seriously, just to fuck with him and to let people know how awful he is. I know that since I read Chibi’s post, he’ll forevermore be ‘Fartiste’ to me.
Or, if we wanna be clever, we could start referring to him as Le Pétomaine, who was an actual performer who would fart on command.
Is that a neat idea or am I just drowning in thinking about how clever I am today?
(It’s probably the latter, I think it’s the fart-connection that’s got me giggling so much right now)
Pfh, thinking I’m cleverer than I am is 90 % of *my* mating strategy, so I agree with the above.
I’ve been lurking here and on YouTube for a bit too long apparently because now these guys are just making me softy laugh and shake my head.
This is actually a good thing for our gene pool since the chances of the people taking this advice mating are being lowered more and more with every post. Evolution!
Lol, Andrew. His most recent post:
A choice comment from one of his readers:
He’s an ass (to put it mildly) and he enables other asses (to put it mildly). Fuck the whole mano-paleo-“hbd”-sphere.
Heh, I like “Fartiste” (which, by way of typo, can end up as “Fartiest,” hehe), because who doesn’t love a good bit of acting like the more mature of two kindergarteners, but Le Pétomaine is amusing, too. All the fart jokes? I think yes.
Okeydoke, Fartiste it is. My inner 12 year old is *definitely* running the show today.
Welcome AbominableSnowPickle!
I can’t help to associate “Fartiste” with MRAs giggling at “Fatrelle”. So far, their technique to make me realize how awful David is by calling him Fatrelle have failed. (especially since I am David commenting on my own blog. In a ferret suit.)
It might be because I’m gold-digging too much and I have lost all sense of humour (clever association to Tom Martin).
I’ve been lurking for a couple years now, and I feel like I know most of you regulars…so to get a wonderful reception to my silliness AND a welcome, I’m a bit verklempt^.^
Hopefully, I’ll be confident enough to comment more. I’d love to, because I love the super smart and hilarious people here at the site. Seriously, you folks are amazing!
I’m going to go squee and act like a 13 year old girl for a moment *eeee!*
I think since Roissy/Fartiste (Le Pétomaine may be a little to highbrow for him…and even though his talent ws amazing farts, he was a performer and a…fartiste, who was super popular). I think he’s such a horrible human being that he should be belittled as much as possible. Which isn’t the most mature reaction, I know. He’s just so terrible that all I can think when I read his crap is “NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE!” Not the most intellectual reaction, it’s more a gut-thing. He’s so revolting.
Aaahh, I’ll quit rambling now^.^
Hit women in order to make them stay.
Threaten to hit women in order to make them stay.
……………
Geez.
As for as evo psych is concerned I don’t put a ton of credence in it. One reason is that evolution is constant. And most evo psych folks seem to think that it stopped at some point and use that as a reference point to explain behaviors in the modern era. Second studies by evo psych folks blow up in popular media without having….been adequately examined (causing harmful misinformation and giving fodder to rape apologists). The studies I have looked into have questionable information gathering. And because of the nature of the studies it is hard to separate culture/societal expectations from the results. And honestly many more, but I’m getting bored of having to explain my reasoning. Anyhow, main sentiment is I don’t buy evo psych.
(update): Feeling much better. I discussed my depression with a friend and she advised me to go home to recoup. Going home on saturday. My brother is thrilled because he says I haven’t seen him in 2 years. As a result of having finalized the plan to return home my mood has lifted. Oh, and my parents are paying for the majority of the ticket cost. So, win there too.
MaudeLL: I hadn’t even made the connection between ‘Fartiste’ and ‘Fatrelle.’ It hadn’t occurred to me that I was doing the same thing to him that he was trying to do to David/the ferrets. I wish I could be more mature about it…I will try though!
I just can’t come up with a better way to deal with his vileness yet…I’ll try to be more creative^.^
Another gross thing is that he third-persons it. He’s not saying what men SHOULD do, oh no, he’s just saying that more violent domestic abuse is a natural and unavoidable outcome of telling men that they shouldn’t threaten their wives.